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Chinese Troops Deploying In North Korea

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posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 08:59 PM
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Originally posted by Agit8dChop

Originally posted by Gainsayer
The average National Guardsman/Reservist is better equipped, better trained, and better taken care of than your active duty Russian or Chinese soldier. This is not up for debate, I'm afraid.


Yeah, your right.
But your not taking into the understanding that an American Civilian is a weak minded, obese consumer.

Where as the Chinese, and more specifically the Russians are a little more in tune with their..


.. animal and fighting instincts.


They dont look to scrappy to me

thebrigade.com...




posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 09:04 PM
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I obviously need to do more research on this matter. And, I'm just not going to give any clout to wikileaks cables...

I agree with Slayer. Totally.

Maybe I missed it, but how did it go from China supposedly "backing" N. Korea into now all of a sudden China has the US in it's cross-hairs?

It's way too soon IMHO to start teeth-chattering and shivering about China invading the US...

"Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer."

Who is going to tell China not to take-over the reigns of the N. Korean peninsula?

Somehow I can envision the N. Koreans being welcome to be annexed by China.

As I first mentioned, more research is needed on my part.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 09:14 PM
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I cannot form an opinion really, all I can do is reason logically and compare what I have seen and what the results of it all have been.
Look at Iraq, that war alone has strained military resources already so thin, even the memebers of the military are under serious stress. What would a war with China cause, or even with North Korea? We all hype up technology and try to feel secure behind it, but I do not think at this moment in time US technology will offset the odds in a conflict. Look at how US forces and the its allies are struggleing with "insurgents"? Now if war would be fought with a military not afraid to back down and also would add Naval resistance, Air resistance ground resistance and certainly would expect to see some suprise resistance indeed. I think one of the main driving factors that would cause one to rebuttle US Weakness would be his/her pride for its country, not the honest admission that maybe another country could possibly have the upper hand, somehow.

This whole world is just getting darker and darker as time goes on, I know we all feel it and I know we all are getting sick of it. The prospects of more war just makes life gloomy all the more so. Every time a member of the military returns from war they feel lost and are cursed with depression



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 09:17 PM
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Originally posted by Fox Molder
reply to post by buddha
 


With the Chinese Prime Minister in the U.S. talking to Big Obama....Humm....Might be planing an under the table deal like " You take North Korea and we stay the fook out of it!" type deal.

Anybody mentioned:" Taiwan" yet, I didn't read through 7 pages...Maybe they''ll calm nk down and we don't
object to them taking Taiwan???
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posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 09:18 PM
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Originally posted by Agit8dChop

Originally posted by Gainsayer
The average National Guardsman/Reservist is better equipped, better trained, and better taken care of than your active duty Russian or Chinese soldier. This is not up for debate, I'm afraid.


Yeah, your right.


"Your": of or relating to you or yourself or yourselves especially as possessor or possessors (credit Meriam)

You're = you are.



But your not taking into the understanding that an American Civilian is a weak minded, obese consumer.


"Your" not really helping your case here. Personally, I would at least pause before hitting "reply" were I to post such utter rubbish, as I certainly would not want to make an arse out of myself by making sweeping, ignorant, and incorrect generalizations about Australia.



Where as the Chinese, and more specifically the Russians are a little more in tune with their..


.. animal and fighting instincts.


Fascinating. Perhaps you might share with us the nature of your peculiar insight.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 09:24 PM
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I guess it isn't broad casted in US media that the United States of America is in decline. China will take advantage of this decline and make its own chess moves (with justification). By 2015 US will be 22 trillion dollars in depth, that is a point of no return.

I believe if Chinese troops have stepped in N-Korea, it is to monitor the events, that way the United States of America won't be able to implement another false flag to keep the tensions high. Those tensions helps the dollar and is bad for the regional economy.

    In the above sense, the US of A won't be able to implement a false flag without China knowing, and if China knows, it can respond with justification.


This is economical warfare mixed with a small military operations.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 09:41 PM
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Originally posted by Canadianpride420
reply to post by Unknown Soldier
 


Wow aren't you an ignorant one. I would suggest for you to read a history book about how smaller and less advanced armies have overcome the odds and won but with your tone I don't see the point.


LOL

You obviously did not read my posts, I used ancient Greece defeating the Persians for an example. You just contradicted yourself maybe you have poor reading comprehension. Im well polished on my world history. My tone? My tone is a very monotone sound of logic.

No you do not see THE POINT

being 420 might be to blame



Yea you guys probably are the number 1 military in terms of technology and hardware but that doesn't guarantee a victory.


Nothing is certain, but a m16 is much more effective than a shotgun.


And yout ignorance towards my country is disgusting. We most certainly do not rely on America and although we may not have the largest or most advanced military we are often assigned some of the toughest tasks.


Tell me aboot these tough tasks? NORAD?

My ignorance towards Canada? I stated that the Chinese would probably invade Canada before they would want to invade the US, and Canada would serve as a platform for an invasion of the US in such a silly scenario. -Yes your country needs us more than you will ever know.



Take world war 2 and Afghanistan for instance. And we are statistically more active than americans. We are a peaceful country until you piss us off and if a country ever invaded you can bet all our citizens would put up one heck of a fight, we are tough people.


Statistically more active then Americans? lol

Could you provide a source for this claim? Thanks

Im sure your citizens would fight back but lets not kid ourselves the leaf does not fall far from the tree, France.





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posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 09:42 PM
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wow this professional guy really... you're prolly the most illinformed person on here, why do you even come to ATS and not gather information



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 09:44 PM
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Um yea right, I have forgotten more knowledge than you have ever learned in your life. Feel free to browse my threads and educate yourself.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 09:55 PM
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Originally posted by getreadyalready
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China is definitely not "THE" superpower. Their cutting edge weapons being unveiled have finally caught up with our 20 year old common technology, and despite popular opinion we don't owe them a very large percentage of our national debt. We owe the vast majority of it to ourselves, and after that Japan ranks #1. On top of all that, North Korea already had the largest standing army in the world, so a few more Chinese infantrymen really makes no difference, and our Carrier groups do not care how many men are on the ground, because they are 100 miles offshore lobbing million dollar weapons at their targets.

If the article is true, it is concerning that China has chosen this approach instead of reigning in the NK government, but most diplomatic news is saying the opposite. It is more likely that any Chinese troops in NK would be there to watch the NK government and assist the US in keeping a lid on things in the region.



You know... I keep hearing the same rhetoric over and over.. the US have weapons of superior technology and ARE the supper power of weaponry.

Before I address this.. I would like to point out that regardless of an infantry or even one Chinese man in NK can and will be a pivotal role as to what China wishes to do and what actions it will or will not take.

We've all seen what the the good old of USA has done in small skirmishes. be it in Vietnam, Iraq, Kuwaiti, Afghanistan.. etc.. etc..

What we have not seen is the weaponry of the Chinese or Russians.. I'm sure they have black ops operations where they have weapons that can be just as deadly or deadlier then the US arsenals.

Don't be so blind to think the US can win a war.. they still haven't even won the war their fighting right now. And this is with a country that does not come even close to weapons the US has.

As I heard on a program.. the Chinese does not need to face the US Ships if they have weapons that can take them out without building worthless boats that are easy targets as they bob up and down in the water.

So with all this talk about the "US is way ahead of its times with weapons".. so too are other countries which may have built weapons that can and will counter the US's toys of destruction.
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posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 10:05 PM
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Originally posted by SLAYER69

We have the largest percentage of privately owned firearms and presently the most experienced vets. They'd have to get past our active military then past our National home defense then deal with the most heavily armed civilian populace on the planet.

That's if of course we didn't nuke them first. Besides why would China or the US want to turn Canada into a massive battleground? Because that's where it would be fought most likely in their conventional invasion.

US resistance would make Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan look like a side show........


I would place my bet any day on a chinese soldier against a starbucks drinking, iphone tweeting douchebag who thinks he knows how to shoot a gun because he plays call of duty. In all honesty, the majority of the private american citizens would cower in fear in their basements if there was an invasion and you know it.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 10:08 PM
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On the contrary. This is for their own protection. If Korea were ever to be unified, then millions of Manchurian Koreans would want to be part of the Greater Korea.

Do you know what happens when millions of people in a region desire to be part of another nation?

Shall we recall Georgia?

Shall we recall Israel?

Shall we recall so many others?

China doesn't want a war because China doesn't want a unified Korea. That means their ally would become their enemy.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 10:08 PM
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i don't think so this china and us would go to war, no reasons at all, it could be suicide for both party's. but just for fun and for the appeasement of everybody, i hope they go to war soon and kill each other so we could see who is the most superior, and when can talk a lot about the actions happening like in movies. If there would be still an internet during the war
LOL



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 10:09 PM
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Not likely. Don't underestimate us.

As to video games. I played them all my life. Then I decided to try our paint ball. I went for 7 hours without getting shot. My first time. Evidently, the other team was from S Korea. Ironic.

However, let me assure you. Video games ARE experience.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 10:11 PM
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It's estimated that 5-10% of the US population hunt wildlife a year. That alone makes quite a formidable number of firearm-savvy, Starbucks slurping, Call of Duty players.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 10:13 PM
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Adding to you:

Im pretty Russia and China planned something in the past and there is still a plan in place in case the USA would want to take over the world

USA can be seen has an enemy worldwide .. since they are the first ever to have launched nukes on innocent civilians
invading the US would be the only solution to start a new world government

the USA made their plan for conquering many nation .. im sure Russia and China did their homework to ... they didnt invade someone or attack someone in a long time .. why are they preparing so much their military ... to counter the US military

its comon sens realising that someday if the us government push it to much .. someone will take action
and it can all start with SK and NK proxies



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 10:13 PM
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I think Jesus hates crosses.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 10:15 PM
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Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by djtek
 


Not likely. Don't underestimate us.

As to video games. I played them all my life. Then I decided to try our paint ball. I went for 7 hours without getting shot. My first time. Evidently, the other team was from S Korea. Ironic.

However, let me assure you. Video games ARE experience.


yeah but if you get shot . its really game over for you



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 10:15 PM
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Originally posted by Gainsayer
It's estimated that 5-10% of the US population hunt wildlife a year. That alone makes quite a formidable number of firearm-savvy, Starbucks slurping, Call of Duty players.


Oh, I'm sorry I didn't realize that being able to shoot a defenseless stationary animal equates to the ability to kill something with intelligence and a gun aimed back at you.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 10:16 PM
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ben you need to stop bumpin your gums and do a little research.
here on this site is one thread that contradicts your statement they need more space.
for thier people to live.


www.abovetopsecret.com...
ghost towns in china.

if they want to start some #, well just whip their asses again and send them home.
back then they still had more troops than the un and still lost. most people don't realize
that there were other countries involed in the Korean war, besides the us and sk.







 
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