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Christian therapist who claims she can help gay men go straight faces being struck off

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posted on Jan, 25 2011 @ 02:04 PM
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So thisis another of your religious threads. As opposed to an issue of mental health.




posted on Jan, 25 2011 @ 02:55 PM
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Originally posted by The Djin
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If a gay man wants to go straight and this person is offering to help them then why should they be struck off?


Method,

tax payers expense , the NHS does not fund the removal of gay demons.


The method is completely irrelavent.

The fact that the man requested help from an individual, who agreed to help him. Why should she then be struck off?

This whole BS gay agenda has gone too far. It seems that now people are going out of their way to make heteros people look bad.



posted on Jan, 26 2011 @ 01:53 AM
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Originally posted by The Djin
Nope, I'm just out to protect my children by keeping xtians t(hat would try to force thier belief down our throats) feet to the fire at every given opportunity, it's self defense.

But this case is a really bad example of that, considering that the therapist wasn't forcing anything.

Threads in BTS regularly pop up trying to extol the balanced, impartial and level-headed nature of atheists and atheism in general, trying to prop them up as bastions of science, rationale and logic, so it is always nice to get a view of the other side.

One that openly admits to reactionary and virulent actions because "I want to keep their feet to the fire at every opportunity".
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posted on Jan, 26 2011 @ 03:09 AM
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I sympathise with her son. I wonder how confused she's managed to make him, bringing him up to believe homosexuality is: "a mental illness, an addiction (and) an anti-religious phenomenon".


Indeed which begs the question does the son require an NHS therapist to help him undo the damage done by another NHS therapist.

Entrapment or not, it is to my mind in the public interest to expose practitioners of bronze age superstitions masquerading as , and getting paid as a scientist.

Is there a case for vetting prospective doctors etc and preventing the believers in christian juju majik being licensed ?
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posted on Jan, 26 2011 @ 03:44 AM
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Originally posted by The Djin
Nope, I'm just out to protect my children by keeping xtians t(hat would try to force thier belief down our throats) feet to the fire at every given opportunity, it's self defense.





But this case is a really bad example of that, considering that the therapist wasn't forcing anything.


Dude the woman was being paid by the tax payer to employ scientific methodology to help patients within the NHSand if not directly the likelihood of referrals from the GP who clearly would not be aware of Ms Pilkingtons juju.





Threads in BTS regularly pop up trying to extol the balanced, impartial and level-headed nature of atheists and atheism in general,


There is nothing levelheaded or balanced about xtianityin the UK, when an A grade student at school has her work marked low because she questions the existence of jesus this exposes just the tip of the rotten iceberg,

Atheists have one thing in common dude and that is they choose not to believe something, you may judge individuals as level headed or otherwise that is up to you . Atheism has no doctrine no dogma no content to keep inline with and atheists are no more nor less impartial than anyone else on any other subject.






trying to prop them up as bastions of science, rationale and logic, so it is always nice to get a view of the other side.


If that is how you see it fine kick on, I only represent me an my family not a belief nor a group, I am sometimes in agreement with other atheists and am sometimes not and visa versa.




One that openly admits to reactionary and virulent actions because "I want to keep their feet to the fire at every opportunity".


Indeed, so do you have a problem with that ? Being ATS and all, if I made a similar statement of a government would you be so quick to condemn ? as this is what you appear to be doing



posted on Jan, 26 2011 @ 03:57 AM
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The fact that the man requested help from an individual, who agreed to help him. Why should she then be struck off?


I refer you to my previous post, if the poor woman advertised the fact that she was a practitioner of magik and not science, then there would be less of a problem but she wouldn't be officially recognized.

If I am terminally ill my GP is allowed to not contest under conditions to my wishes of trying alternative treatment such as voodo bark of the demon tree, if he is the one recommending the magik in the first place he gets' struck off especially if I wasn't ill to begin with.



posted on Jan, 26 2011 @ 04:25 AM
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Originally posted by The Djin
Originally posted by The Djin
Nope, I'm just out to protect my children by keeping xtians t(hat would try to force thier belief down our throats) feet to the fire at every given opportunity, it's self defense.

It looks like fear or spite to me... What are you afraid of? If you teach your children your own way of thinking, and yet against your will, they turn Christian, who will you blame? Assuming you actually have children to begin with... Because you should know that part of being a child, is rebelling against what the parents try to ram down your throat.



Originally posted by The DjinThere is nothing levelheaded or balanced about xtianityin the UK, when an A grade student at school has her work marked low because she questions the existence of Jesus this exposes just the tip of the rotten iceberg,

A link to proof about that would be nice... Are you even in the UK? Above you spelt the word "defense", which is the American spelling, which is something you should know, if you are really in the UK

Your spite is getting very old...
Vicky



posted on Jan, 26 2011 @ 09:12 AM
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Let's put it this way. How do you guys feel about sex change operations? I think they're weird but OK, whatever floats your boat. What about a straight person who is bi-curious? Again, not something for me but I wouldn't freak out about it or care if someone told them to explore those options.

But.... OH... MY... GAWD... let's run around in circles and scream at the injustice of someone being gay who wants to be straight and goes to someone for help. Our society can change someone's gender who is unhappy with their gender of birth. Our society can encourage others to experiment with bisexuality or homosexuality. But let's shriek and freak out if a gay person wants to seek methods for going straight.

If I had that issue, I'd want others to butt out. It would be my choice to seek out the change. But this journalist wants to impose his beliefs on others. He sought out the therapist. She didn't barge in on a G/B/L convention and go on some conversion campaign. He went to her under false pretenses because he can't bear the thought of someone not wanting what he wants.

Puh-lease.



posted on Jan, 26 2011 @ 09:25 AM
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Originally posted by The Djin


Things are really warming up for christian juju in the UK and the discussion is becoming ever more complicate, what goes around certainly seems to becoming around for the xtians. After centuries of bigotry the tide surely seems to be turning and with some vengeance .



Yea but this is all thought police stuff here. So she going to lose her creds? Got to walk that party line tight rope there fool if you want to keep them creds. Never mind your own thought and ideas on the matter.

Anyway thats your only victory here. State approved speech and thinking. Hope you are proud. Soon people with their own mind will be called insane and will be sent to the fields to pick cotton.



posted on Jan, 26 2011 @ 09:29 AM
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Originally posted by AshleyD

But.... OH... MY... GAWD... let's run around in circles and scream at the injustice of someone being gay who wants to be straight and goes to someone for help. Our society can change someone's gender who is unhappy with their gender of birth. Our society can encourage others to experiment with bisexuality or homosexuality. But let's shriek and freak out if a gay person wants to seek methods for going straight.

Puh-lease.


And that right thar is whats called the truth.



posted on Jan, 26 2011 @ 10:03 AM
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Originally posted by Logarock
Yea but this is all thought police stuff here. So she going to lose her creds? Got to walk that party line tight rope there fool if you want to keep them creds. Never mind your own thought and ideas on the matter.


The therapist in question will still be able to practice as a psychotherapist, she just will no longer be a member of the British Association for Counselling and Psychotherapy.

The British Association for Counselling and Psychotherapy is a private "club" with its own rules of membership.
Are you saying private clubs should not be able to have ethical standards for membership?

They'd kick members out it they practiced exorcisms on patients or if they convinced patients they could fly off high buildings too.



posted on Jan, 26 2011 @ 11:14 AM
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Oks now your are heading to the beyond ridiculous. Im not getting into this debate weither homosexuality is a disease or not that is not the topic of discussion.

It is obvious that both the therapist and the individual involved, went through what treatments were avaiable for this individual to agree to the therapist use of her christian methods. Until we hear more about this case, We as observors can only speculate. This is all substantial.

To me it is a clear entrapement on this indivdual mans side. He went there for one reason to make sure this therapist wouldbe sacked. < -- that is crock of the case.



posted on Jan, 26 2011 @ 11:54 AM
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It looks like fear or spite to me... What are you afraid of?


Firstly no spite involved so let's forget about that, Fear ? Perhaps a long term strong concern would be more accurate but not for myself.




If you teach your children your own way of thinking, and yet against your will, they turn Christian, who will you blame?



I don't teach my children my way of thinking, I wholeheartedly encourage them to think for themselves at all times. My children may or may not choose to evaluate the christian cult when they are mature adults that will be up to them, if they choose to join your cult or any other for that matter then that will be up to them. What would I think about that in the unlikely event that it occurred ? I guess when they come around the conversation at dinner would be highly entertaining.





Assuming you actually have children to begin with... Because you should know that part of being a child, is rebelling against what the parents try to ram down your throat.


Indeed I have children and having once been a child myself the only thing I ram down their throats is that doors have handles and that elves don't replace the loo rolls/

There is nothing levelheaded or balanced about xtianity in the UK, when an A grade student at school has her work marked low because she questions the existence of Jesus this exposes just the tip of the rotten iceberg,




A link to proof about that would be nice.


You would like a link to my childs' school books ?





Are you even in the UK? Above you spelt the word "defense", which is the American spelling, which is something you should know, if you are really in the UK


I can assure you I'm in the UK Indeed I would normally spell defence like so Firefox, spellcheck does not recognize the nationality of the writer it would seem, and no I did not know the US spelled it differently why should I?
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posted on Jan, 26 2011 @ 12:30 PM
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Soon people with their own mind will be called insane and will be sent to the fields to pick cotton.


As I recall the wealthiest nation on earth attained its' status bot without the help of this very act,hm



posted on Jan, 26 2011 @ 12:43 PM
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Oks now your are heading to the beyond ridiculous. Im not getting into this debate weither homosexuality is a disease or not that is not the topic of discussion. It is obvious that both the therapist and the individual involved, went through what treatments were avaiable for this individual to agree to the therapist use of her christian methods.


Her methods being dictated by her belief that homosexuality is caused by demons, which is unacceptable to consider as a diagnosis so she is struck off










To me it is a clear entrapement on this indivdual mans side.

Possibly but entrapment does is not considered in relation to the practice of health care so it's just tough cheese





He went there for one reason to make sure this therapist wouldbe sacked.


The evidence is that he went to expose a quack, which he was successful at doing no different to a reporter going undercover in fast food restaurant, the reporter merely presents the evidence someone else acts upon it.
The witch doctor still has the right to appeal if she wants.



posted on Jan, 26 2011 @ 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by Kailassa

Originally posted by Logarock
Yea but this is all thought police stuff here. So she going to lose her creds? Got to walk that party line tight rope there fool if you want to keep them creds. Never mind your own thought and ideas on the matter.


The therapist in question will still be able to practice as a psychotherapist, she just will no longer be a member of the British Association for Counselling and Psychotherapy.

The British Association for Counselling and Psychotherapy is a private "club" with its own rules of membership.
Are you saying private clubs should not be able to have ethical standards for membership?

They'd kick members out it they practiced exorcisms on patients or if they convinced patients they could fly off high buildings too.


Yea but this is politics. The politics of gayness. That poor guy guy that wanted to go strait.....hes insane...hes like a guy needing an exorcism? Oh he wanted to fly?



posted on Jan, 26 2011 @ 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by The Djin
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Oks now your are heading to the beyond ridiculous. Im not getting into this debate weither homosexuality is a disease or not that is not the topic of discussion. It is obvious that both the therapist and the individual involved, went through what treatments were avaiable for this individual to agree to the therapist use of her christian methods.


Her methods being dictated by her belief that homosexuality is caused by demons, which is unacceptable to consider as a diagnosis so she is struck off.


Wow ! How did she get out of the closet?




He went there for one reason to make sure this therapist wouldbe sacked.


The evidence is that he went to expose a quack, which he was successful at doing no different to a reporter going undercover in fast food restaurant, the reporter merely presents the evidence someone else acts upon it.
The witch doctor still has the right to appeal if she wants.


What about the guy? I suppose he is insane anyway for wanting to go strait? But wow a quack mad it that far into the club! Well looks like they had a skeleton get out of the closet.
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posted on Jan, 26 2011 @ 01:34 PM
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Originally posted by The Djin
Her methods being dictated by her belief that homosexuality is caused by demons, which is unacceptable to consider as a diagnosis so she is struck off

Did she really? I think I missed that part. She said they were caused by demons, or that she would "cure them the christian way"?


Originally posted by The Djin
Atheists have one thing in common dude and that is they choose not to believe something, you may judge individuals as level headed or otherwise that is up to you . Atheism has no doctrine no dogma no content to keep inline with and atheists are no more nor less impartial than anyone else on any other subject.

I agree with this statement and sentiment 100%.


Originally posted by The Djin
I don't teach my children my way of thinking, I wholeheartedly encourage them to think for themselves at all times.

So you don't teach your children your way of thinking, but you teach them that Jesus Christ didn't exist? Isn't that an oxymoron? Where did she get the idea from? What on earth subject is she studying?



Originally posted by Logarock
Yea but this is all thought police stuff here. So she going to lose her creds? Got to walk that party line tight rope there fool if you want to keep them creds. Never mind your own thought and ideas on the matter.

Anyway thats your only victory here. State approved speech and thinking. Hope you are proud. Soon people with their own mind will be called insane and will be sent to the fields to pick cotton.

You know, it is quite interesting how dystopian, totalitarian futuristic societies are portrayed in fiction as usually being strongly linked to Christianity (V for Vendetta, for example), but in reality, if such a future came about, it would most probably be oppressing Christianity, along with all other religious thought. At least that is where the trend appears to be leading.



posted on Jan, 26 2011 @ 01:38 PM
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I believe totally a persons sexuality is down to there spiritual side mainly, but i would stay away from people like this. You are who you are, and its life. If you are out there trying to pretend different your not living your life.

I would stay away from people like this, and also stay away from females that think they can in some way cure gays or something, you know the sh1t does not stink females that think they are so attractive, that any man can pretend with them, lol.



posted on Jan, 26 2011 @ 04:04 PM
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Wow ! How did she get out of the closet?


Dunno mate, but her boss may not be happy about it -




"But you, when you pray, enter into your closet, and when you have shut your door, pray to your Father which is in secret;



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