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AZ Shooting Victim Detained, Appolozies for Death Threats Against Tea-Party

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posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 09:29 PM
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Arizona shooting victim James Eric Fuller sent his apologies Monday for telling a Tea Party leader, "you are dead."

Fuller, 63, was involuntarily committed to a county mental health facility after he photographed Tucson Tea Party founder Humphries and said, "You are dead" when Humphries began speaking at the event.


Shooting victim shouted at one of the local Tea Party leaders, took his picture and declared he was going to kill him... then was detained and carted off to a mental health facility..


"I was asked to give my thoughts on gun control laws and perhaps the passage of new laws," Humphries said of the incident. "I said something to the effect that although gun rights and laws are not necessarily the primary focus of the Tucson Tea Party, our community needs to be given the opportunity to allow some time to pass and people to heal before we start this type of political dialogue."


I have to ask why he was brought to a mental health clinic right after the incident, escorted by police. Was this a normal procedure, you declare you're going to kill someone and they cart you off to the loony bin, not a jail cell? Perhaps it was quick damage control, because certainly this is an embarrassing incident.

It also, imo, highlights the general Progressive attitude about the whole incident, declaring the Right Wing and Tea Party members as being responsible for the shooters actions -- even though it's been proven he had no political stance.....

The saddest part of it all, is the heightened rhetoric from Democrats to tone down the "name calling" and strong language, presented with a unifying political rally at UofA "memorial".. then turn around in the same sentence and use blatant lies to rally political points. Is it entirely surprising then that a shooting victim would then make death threats against someone who had absolutely nothing to do with any of this?
www.cnn.com...




posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 09:40 PM
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I have been wondering about this myself, did JL not work out the way expected and this stooge was put into the limelight to incite something? Everything about this bizarre case is fishy in my opinion, seems someone just needs this incident to spark unrest or something and they will throw whoever against the wall till it sticks?



posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 10:52 PM
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The shooting is one of the many signs that the ideological spectrum is out of control in the US . While I expect the Tea Party to be infiltrated by such undesirables as domestic terrorists , in this case they are not at fault here . I can see how the phrase could get "your dead " may get used in a gun control debate that has gotten a little to heated . I would want to know some facts about the person history before making a final judgement but that statement shouldn't be enough to send someone to the asylum . Rather its not a wise thing to say in any kind of public forum .

Cheers xpert11.



posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 11:49 PM
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The shooter never infiltrated the Tea Party, and had absolutely no affiliation to it.. the only known political functions he ever went to were griffons meet and greats. Apparently his gripe with her stems to a question he asked her and she didn't answer to his satisfaction ..

"your dead" was not a by product of a debate, he became belligerent at the meeting, took a photo of the speaker and declared "your dead" in a threatening manor.. it was distributing enough that he was instantly arrested.

As to why he went to a psych ward and not jail.. I've no idea.. that's part of the mystery. One thing that is clear is that he apparently thinks the Tea Party tried to kill him.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 12:21 AM
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This guy has a history of political threats and law breaking. He's wound up tight and it is a shame he was harmed by shooter nutter Jared. Of all the people, he would be least able to cope with the assault and the ensuing lefty hatefest. Another local leftie was nailed issuing death threats to a Tea Party organizer in the area after the shooting, too.

I don't think people have any idea how violent the Left is. Tea Party people were regularly assualted and threatened by nutters. The guns the mainstream press saw at those Tea Party protests came along after Obama urged his supporters to "get in their faces" and issued other violent recommendations to lefties. Union thugs showed up at a couple of tea parties and assualted people and got themselves arrested and charged, too.

The Leftist leaders think they will scare away their opposition with such displays of vile slander and hatred. But it won't work. They tried that in the sixties and seventies. They only hurt thier own reputations. After all that slime following the shootings only 9% of Americans agree with them that Palin and the other boogeymen they named caused Jared to kill. Even Obama knew better than keep it up in his memorial speech. He ditched them. The rest of the Americans saw a bunch of foul mouthed manipulators and liars on televison who were demanding the end to more freedoms. Being I'm a individual liberals, small government kind of person, I love seeing the radicals melt down in pure hatred like that in front of the public. It is who they are.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 01:08 AM
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Originally posted by sara123123
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This guy has a history of political threats and law breaking. He's wound up tight and it is a shame he was harmed by shooter nutter Jared. Of all the people, he would be least able to cope with the assault and the ensuing lefty hatefest. Another local leftie was nailed issuing death threats to a Tea Party organizer in the area after the shooting, too.

I don't think people have any idea how violent the Left is. Tea Party people were regularly assualted and threatened by nutters. The guns the mainstream press saw at those Tea Party protests came along after Obama urged his supporters to "get in their faces" and issued other violent recommendations to lefties. Union thugs showed up at a couple of tea parties and assualted people and got themselves arrested and charged, too.

The Leftist leaders think they will scare away their opposition with such displays of vile slander and hatred. But it won't work. They tried that in the sixties and seventies. They only hurt thier own reputations. After all that slime following the shootings only 9% of Americans agree with them that Palin and the other boogeymen they named caused Jared to kill. Even Obama knew better than keep it up in his memorial speech. He ditched them. The rest of the Americans saw a bunch of foul mouthed manipulators and liars on televison who were demanding the end to more freedoms. Being I'm a individual liberals, small government kind of person, I love seeing the radicals melt down in pure hatred like that in front of the public. It is who they are.


It seems like you know hate in a very intimate way


The radicals already had their melt down at the Glenn Beck rally

Second amendment remedies, voting from the rooftops and watering the tree of liberty are my favorite three
references to political violence




The guns the mainstream press saw at those Tea Party protests came along after Obama urged his supporters to "get in their faces" and issued other violent recommendations to lefties.


BULL
lemme see some links?


People brought their guns to the rallies to show that they are supporters of the 2nd, others are fearful of being hurt, while others wanted to show how bad their are... Thats like farting in the car with one other person and trying to blame them - you're only fooling yourself

Watch the sole propriety of hate by the left below



WOW

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posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 03:28 AM
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Sorry for the mix up . What I was trying to say is that while the guy had no connection to the Tea Party movement in the future those kind of undesirables could well do . IMO something is missing from the puzzle here but I don't won't to speculate on the guy's past mental health history .

Cheers xpert11.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 09:52 AM
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Yet again further proof that whoever is ballsy enough to stand up to this group gets trashed and demonized and is forced to apologize!

Seriously, this entire group as the days pass its becoming quite evident that they are The American Nazi Party!

Seig Heil!



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 10:45 AM
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I think, honestly, that this is the most important thing to understand right now. The "Left" CAN be violent. I'm not saying all Progressives are, all Democrats are, etc.. but just like there are radical Right Wing nutcases out there that have no problem gunning down innocent people, there are Left Wing nutcases fully willing to do the exact same thing.

How often have we seen the "Left" trample the rights of others for the sake of supposed "equality" and shout down any opposing voice? Just look at the rabid hatred of political icons like Palin, who even though I can't stand her personally, I'm still awed by the sheer hatred, violence, and energy devoted against her by the Left.

Radical politics on EITHER side has the capability to produce violence.. so it's unnerving that because someone shoots up a gathering of people, the Right Wing is blamed instantly, even when proven there is no political motive.. and the only politically motivated hate speech gets directed at the Tea Party, which in this case is completely innocent.

Progressivism enjoyes the stigma that it's the happy go lucky new age hippy movement of unicorns and rainbows.. in reality, as with any ultra-extreme political views, it's just as dangerous as far-right wing social Conservatism.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 10:51 AM
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Originally posted by Rockpuck

Arizona shooting victim James Eric Fuller sent his apologies Monday for telling a Tea Party leader, "you are dead."

Fuller, 63, was involuntarily committed to a county mental health facility after he photographed Tucson Tea Party founder Humphries and said, "You are dead" when Humphries began speaking at the event.


Shooting victim shouted at one of the local Tea Party leaders, took his picture and declared he was going to kill him... then was detained and carted off to a mental health facility..




You can bet ol boy is a hero now! He played his role well! Took one for the team.


He should have been taken to the "facility" just for being such an unstable dolt for buying into all the hype!

In fact this guy WAY more that the other is a prime case of acting on all the stuff flying around out there. Hes the poster boy here. He probably watched the morning joe that am!



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 11:00 AM
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Originally posted by Rockpuck

Progressivism enjoyes the stigma that it's the happy go lucky new age hippy movement of unicorns and rainbows.. in reality, as with any ultra-extreme political views, it's just as dangerous as far-right wing social Conservatism.


Why yes. There main stay if all else fails is "direct action".


Direct action is activity undertaken by individuals, groups, or governments to achieve political, economic, or social goals outside of normal social/political channels. Direct action can include nonviolent and violent activities which target persons, groups, or property deemed offensive to the direct action participant. Examples of nonviolent direct action include strikes, workplace occupations, sit-ins, sabotage, property destruction and graffiti. Violent direct actions include assault and murder. By contrast, grassroots organizing, electoral politics, diplomacy and negotiation or arbitration do not constitute direct action. Direct actions are sometimes a form of civil disobedience, but some (such as strikes) do not always violate criminal law.


Direct action

The resent attempt to smear the TP over these shooting is "direct action" in the left press. A form of sabotage and political graffiti. Here the left press and their hired chin flappers are like cans of spray paint more than anything else.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 11:09 AM
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Originally posted by Rockpuck

I have to ask why he was brought to a mental health clinic right after the incident, escorted by police. Was this a normal procedure, you declare you're going to kill someone and they cart you off to the loony bin, not a jail cell?


I think the reason they placed him under a mental health evaluation was for the fear of post traumatic stress. Which I can see as valid.

I also found this:

According to Pima County sheriff's spokesman Jason Ogan, Fuller was arrested on misdemeanor disorderly conduct and threat charges. Authorities decided that Fuller was in need of a mental evaluation as they escorted him off of the premises, and he was taken to a local hospital. The hospital will determine when he will be released, Ogan said.
Source

I don't know if they dropped the charges, but it wouldn't surprise me if they did.




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