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Originally posted by Flighty
reply to post by JR MacBeth
Thank you J R for your kind words and your thoughts, which have given me a few extra things to ponder.
I'm very curious as to who you think sits at the top of the pyramid.
I look forward to your revelation.
It sounds like it could be someone who, so far, has flown under the radar.
Until you get around to posting it, I'll have a long think on who it might be.
I feel that the legitimate cultural, social and linguistic processes that have taken off since the beginning of the modern Western (and/or American) consumerist society have imbalances because consumerism itself has imbalances.
Originally posted by poet1b
I think different tribes see us uniquely, from their cultural perspective. Our technology amazes them, and so some of them look at us as elites, while others do not, and this varies from individual to individual as well, and I would apply that to those in positions of power here in the the advanced nations.
I am working on a book... where one of the points I make is that Wealth is power, and power has gravity, it draws things to it, and that includes a whole lot of people, to the point where the wealthy must create walls between themselves and all those drawn by the gravity of the power of wealth.
... a man of modest roots, would be a very excellent ruler. The second in the line would do a good job of ruling but not as good as the first, and the third would be a disastrous ruler, and the fourth, if there was one, would even be worse.
This is why we are seeing a massive immigration influx into the first world, combined with the propaganda of PC, and the whole movement towards a free market economy, which is a tool for turning over more and more power to the elites. The current PTB are working desperately to undermine the middle class of the first world nations, because this is where they believe the threat to their power will emerge from.
A battle is brewing for control of the world's power structure, and sadly, over the last decade, the elites have been winning.
Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by Sphota
The real problem is that no capable leadership has emerged to represent the middle class, and that neither major political party in the U.S. represents the middle class in the U.S., or in Europe for that matter.
Originally posted by JR MacBeth
No, the world isn't exactly flat as we know, but I also know, given my interest in demographics, that tomorrow's world will be decidedly "darker", and more Asian.
Birthrates. "God's revenge", whatever we want to call it! But it will perhaps have the "final word", regardless of how sure we are of anything.
JR
It wasn't a matter of luck that Europeans were technologically centuries ahead of the other civilizations that you mention.
Originally posted by RRokkyy
Originally posted by JR MacBeth
No, the world isn't exactly flat as we know, but I also know, given my interest in demographics, that tomorrow's world will be decidedly "darker", and more Asian.
Birthrates. "God's revenge", whatever we want to call it! But it will perhaps have the "final word", regardless of how sure we are of anything.
JR
Their weapon of choice.
There's not going to be a credible leadership for the middle class and definitely not for the benefit of white society because the Elites won't let that happen.
I am working on a book, which I need to get back to shortly, titled, "A Westerner's Perspectives" where one of the points I make is that Wealth is power, and power has gravity, it draws things to it...Essentially, the more power you have, the less freedom you have, and conversely, the more freedom you have, the less power. I think the best situation is to be somewhere inbetween.
JR, while I think the royals of Europe had their day, and while they remain wealthy and therefore powerful, I don't think they are currently at the top of the power structure. They didn't give up their power, it was taken from them, as it was taken from Rome.
There was a PBS series on Rome, that I think pointed out something about these ruling elite families, in the progression of the Ceasers of Rome. A family would ascend to power, and the first of the family to grab the reins of power, usually a general who won out among the other generals, who was often a man of modest roots, would be a very excellent ruler. The second in the line would do a good job of ruling but not as good as the first, and the third would be a disastrous ruler, and the fourth, if there was one, would even be worse. Power would corrupt the family, and a new family would then emerge. This pattern can be seen among all the ruling dynasties of the world's civilizations.
I think the royal lines of Europe currently enjoy their long stay in positions of power, because they don't have nearly the amount of power that they once had. They are still powerful, but not nearly as powerful as they once were. They are not at the top of the power structure.
I think the current group at the top of the power structure is a conglomerate that controls the worlds oil supply. The thing is, that the high quality supply of easy to get crude oil is running out, and within the next decade, the easy to get high quality crude oil supply will run out, and a new power structure in the world will emerge. The people at the top of the power structure see this coming, and they are working very hard to find a way to hang onto their position at the top of the worlds power structure, but I think they are working in vein. Still, they are not about to give up without a fight.
This is why we are seeing a massive immigration influx into the first world, combined with the propaganda of PC, and the whole movement towards a free market economy, which is a tool for turning over more and more power to the elites. The current PTB are working desperately to undermine the middle class of the first world nations, because this is where they believe the threat to their power will emerge from.
Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by JR MacBeth
There is a solution to high birth rates, and that is increasing the death rates of those practicing the high birthrates.
Our planets current food supply is highly dependent upon oil based fertilizer. When the easy to get high grade crude runs out in the next few years, things are going to get very interesting. It isn't that far to our barbaric past.
What are the Palestinians going to do when Iran and Saudi Arabia don't have the money to keep them propped up? Maybe they might wake up to the fact that they are being cruelly used as tools by people who don't care about them.
Originally posted by JR MacBeth
"If" we buy the idea that birthrates somehow come into play, whether a little or a lot isn't quite as important for the point I'd like to make, then we have acknowledged that "whoever" is using this "weapon" as you put it, must have LONG-TERM goals in mind.
JR
It wasn't a matter of luck that Europeans were technologically centuries ahead of the other civilizations that you mention.
The only thing wrong with that statement is that the advancement achieved by the Europeans during the renaissance does not take place on a time scale, it is a state of mind.
The Japanese and Chinese worshiped their emperors as gods up until the 20th century.
Muslims to this day get down on the carpet and prostrate themselves several times daily to the man who conquered their ancestors over a thousand years ago.
When the Europeans broke free from the yoke of the Catholic church, they entered a period of rebirth, that is what gave them the ability to conquer the world.