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Radical Islam - The Biggest Threat to your Freedoms

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posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 11:36 PM
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I'm not watching it; the sound track Ive heard in the past was enough. I don't care for the holier than thou"ignorant" comments. Do You think; I think every single muslim should be eradicated? No I don't. Even if their :"religion teaches exactly that about us westerners.

When the worst of the worst is in your garden screaming for your head the gloves come off. We have a righto our lives and the public peace. If it makes you leftys "feeel" all warm and superiorr to call people "ignorant "for being less than accepting of the radicals. Well; we have nothing further to discuss...ever.. Nice thing about the 'net I I can log off.




posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 11:42 PM
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I'm not a lefty. I don't believe everything thats spewed out on the tube.

Maybe you should watch the video, it looks like a bad hollywood horror scene.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 01:42 AM
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Thank you for the post, this is something serious which NEEDS to be dealt with, unfortunatly most of the fools on this site hate christianity far too much to ever look at the real threats out there, blind and ignorant...



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 02:20 AM
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Hard to imagine what the radical left imagines it is going to gain from the Islamification of the West - it suits their masters in Moscow down to the ground of course, as a means to collapse it.

The KGB has been organising and training the world's terrorist since the 50's - terror has allways been second nature to them as a means to conduct domestic policy - they simply employed it as a foriegn policy tool all over the world. You can add most of the drug trade and international crime to that list as well.

TPTB - don't use the CIA to do all of these alleged false flags, they simply allow the Russians to do it - which is why the CIA appears to such a sackof # as an intel operation - TPTB manage it to be that way.

So yes Islam is our deadly enemy, so are the Russians and Chinese - these are not imaginary enemies, they are very real - even though they have been sicced on to us by the NWO.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 03:14 AM
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A Muslim cleric in Australia has sparked outrage with his disparaging comments about women, who he claimed are “weapons” used by Satan to control men. According to a report in the United Kingdom’s Daily Mail newspaper, Australia’s most senior Muslim cleric — Sheik Taj Din al-Hilali, compared women who do not wear the Islamic headdress with “meat that is left uncovered in the street and is then eaten by cats.” The cleric, after criticism from Australian Prime Minister John Howard and opposition from other civic leaders, has since apologised for the comments. The remarks came during a Ramadan sermon in a Sydney mosque as the Sheik was trying to justify the actions of a group of Muslim men who had been jailed for alleged gang rapes. Saying the make-up-wearing women enticed the men by “swaying suggestively,” and “dressing inappropriately” — without veils — the sheik set off a firestorm of controversy with his analogy about unguarded pet food.


Why do ass hats like this come to Australia? this is one of many stupid remarks made by this pig of a man,he's a big fan of Shari law as well,I do not believe all muslims are radicals, but if the moderate muslims who are we are consistently told are vast majority of the faith,refuse to speak up and denounce this type of crap (and worse),what are non muslims to assume?
1- That the general muslim population agree with these so called radicals
2- That the moderates are scared stiff of ending up on Al Jazeera wearing an orange jumpsuit and no head

Some more of the mufti's wisdom

On January 8, 2007, Hilaly appeared on an Egyptian television program. He made a number of comments that sparked criticism in Australia, including the following: * British and Irish settlers arrived in Australia as convicts. Muslims paid for their own tickets, and so have more right to Australia * Prison sentences handed down to Lebanese Australian Muslims for the Sydney gang rapes were excessive and influenced by the September 11, 2001 attacks in the U.S. * Western people, especially the English race, are the biggest liars and oppressors.

Hilaly also condemned the level of rights awarded to homosexuals in Australia, stating "We have Christian churches which allow people of the same gender to marry" and "I understand the mentality of the West and especially the Australian mentality and I understand that the Australian law guarantees freedoms to the point of insanity



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 04:00 AM
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Originally posted by lnr42
Are you really going to attempt to churn out this despicable, pathetic, hateful and ignorant drivel again?

People that think like you would be the biggest threat but luckily your numbers are few.



The truth hurts. The poster has a valid opinion & you resort to childish name calling! And yes calling someone ignorant is an insult! This threat is very very real. Extremist Muslim's everywhere give moderate & non practicing Muslims a bad name & are not representative of them! You calling Original Poster the biggest threat!. At least he is not supporting extremist terrorists!



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 04:31 AM
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Whats wrong with being a lefty? I'm a lefty and a socialist, yet think Militant Islam is an issue that needs to be adressed rather than swept under the carpet. I believe there should be no faith schools for any religion, I believe teaching all our children together despite of religion would be a great start. However, groups like the EDL do nothing but spread fear and cause divisions within communities.

I am getting quite sick of being accused of being a threat just because i come from the left of the political spectrum. I think you will find it has been the "right" in this country is responsible for most of the divisions we see especially class divisions. Yet the Lumpenproletariat like Haydyn_17 and his EDL buddies have been blinded by this and instead target their hate on Muslims. This works out perfectly for the ruling classes. Divide and Rule, its the oldest trick in the book.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 04:48 AM
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There's nothing wrong with being a socialist or being on the left, unless you're one of the uaf members that marched with the terrorist group MAC a while back for sharia law, wait an anti fascist group marching with fascists, you better believe it

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posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 04:55 AM
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First I. Would like to say that your thread really feeds the propaganda wagon
Second I am on my phone and I don't have spell check

I am a muslim and I would never ever harm or hurt anyone. Or take over anything. You must understand that most of the things read on the internet are indeed lies . Their is a war agenst Islam and its a war of not understanding . It makes me sad to see such things but I my self was like you once . I feard muslims I hated muslims .but an amazing thing happend .I was tought by my father that if you ever go to war with your enmey you must first learn every part about him and the war . So I did just that .I decided to learn what was driving my enmey Islam to my door step . Well long story short I learnd my so called enmey was god . Yes indeed I had found a religion that was more deticated to god then any I had ever seen . How dare I fear such a pure religion all the propaganda kept my heart hardend . So with loveing pure words to you op .I hope you can do as I and study your enmey . And when you decide to do this I hope you do it with an open mind .and I. Promis you you will find peace and comfort . Pardon all the mistakes my cell phone is not the best for typing



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 05:00 AM
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Just a quick question to any one who believes in this threat? At the moment Britons are turning away from religion in record numbers. Why would all these people who have decided they dont believe in religion suddenly decide to take up Islam. Its just not going to happen and for that reason alone the OP is nothing but fear mongering.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 05:11 AM
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I hate labelling and pigeon holing myself but I would say I have quite a few leftist leaning views, especially on social issues.
But I also have what some would describe as Nationalist and right wing views.
A shame the term National Socialist was, and unfortunately continues to be, used and abused by fascists and racists.

I am trying my best to keep out of this thread, it's a debate I've had quite a few times before.

But radical Islam is one of, if not THE, biggest problem's the world faces today.
It is all controlling, repressive and at times quite babaric and the antithesis of the free thinking people and ideals.
Unfortunatley there are far too many do-gooders and apologists who fail to recognise this.
In addition there are far too many Muslims themselves who refuse to accept any responsibility for the actions of these radical extremists,who turn a blind eye to their acivities and find it far more convenient to blame all the wrong's on non-Muslims.

I understand that the vast majority of Muslims do not agree with these radicals, yet the vast majority of them do nothing about it.
It's time they addressed the issue and eradicated the threat from within their own communities themselves.
Acts and deeds people!

I sincerely hope this will be my only post in this thread, however.......??



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 05:17 AM
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Oh goody... More fearmongering based on blind ignorance and hate... Islam never was nor will be a threat to freedom.. The fools and idiots in d.c are the true threat to freedom and world stability...



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 05:57 AM
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In the United States the biggest threat to our personal freedom is the government and its minions the police.

1. Personal freedom the Right of Assembly- I have not seen anywhere in this Country where followers of Islam have declared "Free Speach Zone" or an area OFF LIMITS to the RIGHT of Assembly. However I have seen the Federal, State, and Local Governments do this and then enforce their will on the People using their minions the Police.

2. Freedom of Speech - I have not seen anywhere in this Country where followers of Islam have been able to limit this right - HOWEVER, I have seen Free Speach limited by Federal, State, and Local Governments.

3. The personal right of Freedom from UnWarranted Search & Seizure. What follower of Islam is stopping the citizen and searching - NONE. What follower of Islam came up with the idea of CIVIL FORFIETURE ? - NONE

I could go on and on about who is REALLY taking away Personal Freedom in the United States but I know that you get the picture.

Next time start by asking What are my personal freedoms and Human rights. With this listing you will see the answer to the next question Who REALLY is the force that is Limiting, Restricting, Eroding these Rights ?

The answer is plain as the nose on your face.

Don't EVER buy into the LIE that it is for YOUR Safety & Security. You have a better chance to die in an automobile accident than get blown up by some phantom terrorist.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 06:58 AM
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Originally posted by woodwardjnr
Just a quick question to any one who believes in this threat? At the moment Britons are turning away from religion in record numbers. Why would all these people who have decided they dont believe in religion suddenly decide to take up Islam. Its just not going to happen and for that reason alone the OP is nothing but fear mongering.


Well just a quick answer to all those that would like to pretend that there is no problem.

If you let in huge no's of non assimilating Muslims who breed at far faster rates than the natives (who are breeding at well below replacement rates) - then it is inevitable that they will become the majority at some point.

At present rates this could occur by 2050 - if this is what you want - just come out and say so!

You cannot credibly deny that there is no problem! - though that is of course the strategy that the slow (demographic) jihad relies on for its success - ie keep the host countries population asleep for as long as possible to the reality of the danger facing them.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 07:26 AM
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Ah the Nick Berg video. It really is something horrifying to consider. This guy, some sort of freelance journalist, was arrested by the US forces and held incommunicado. He was then released in the middle of nowhere and then is kidnapped by insurgents and gets his head chopped off with a kitchen knife on video.

I have a feeling a great evil was done and it may not be the insurgents. Like any lawyer will tell you, to examine the murder, the chain of custody must be looked at.
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posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 07:40 AM
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Lets get one thing straight here first, the blanket use of the word Muslim is wrong and totally misleading, I myself am married into a Muslim family although I do not follow any religion myself and my in-laws who are all Muslims could not be nicer people and totally integrated into the community but still keep their very normal religious beliefs intact. They do not smoke or drink but do not attack those that do, I when I lived with my mother in law respected her wishes ie no pork or booze in the house but I was never lectured.

She and her family follow the Koran and I must make sure people understand the difference between the militants and those that follow the book, I'll explain later. Her family do not wear head scarves deliberately unless its either cold or they are going to the Mosque, there's no segregation, they mix freely with people of other faiths and people of other colours.

So, people who condemn 'Muslims' are both ignorant and stupid, there ARE differences within the faith.

I as a person who is an non believer of any religion and who believe religion is just control etc still look at what people believe and try to see what it has to offer and that's how I know what I do about these militant thugs who claim to be acting under Islam.

The place to start is Saudi Arabia, this is the building block of these radical thugs, these so called clerics etc who over the years have created scriptures / laws that must be followed, rules that people should live their life by and bastardising wording from the Koran. The koran itself isn't without serious issues but show me a religions whose books are not blood thirsty. The men have created these incredulous rules such as the Burqa, its not part of the Koran, its a rule made by men to please men and control, just listen to these same men saying rape is valid, child sex is valid, violence is valid, all these are man made rules and truly not what the book has said.

So, we have Saudi pouring billions of pounds / dollars into creating radical mosques world wide, sending their clerics to teach the naive young by brainwashing, often by the use of drug dependence which of course is against the religion. These people are the reason you hear about 'taking over', removing democracy and these other sadist practices like Sharia, all created by these men in Saudi to practice THEIR beliefs and their bloody fuelled hatred of us.

But here's the rub, these same men and the idiots here all use every part of our lifestyle that they so claim to hate, drugs and drug dealing is done and ignored, my estate I live in has Somalian gangs totally controlling the drug dealing, violence and in some area's prostitution yet the same people wear religious garb, claim to be 'good Muslims' and go to Mosques. The young men that have been radicalised all use Western technology that is claimed to control and brainwash them against Islam, they all have TV's and watch DVD's etc another no no and of course are like other youngsters and into drink, drugs and free sex with ANYONE.

So, we have a seriously large number of hypocrites in most cases, following instruction from men in Saudi.

The worst culprits in my mind are the moderate / normal Muslims who use a terrible excuse not to cast these scum out, they claim they are not allowed to judge a person because only Allah can judge someone, then followed by the other excuse that they will pay for their deeds at judgement time. These are excuses to not rise up and show that these scum are not proper Muslims and doing it in their own views that are not backed by normal Muslims.

Shameful cowardice...Paying for their deeds later does not help the poor tourist held hostage and then beheaded for no reason, it does not help the poor women who some of these men make as targets for their repressed sexuality.

So yes, their is a HUGE wave of anti British feeling here, these same thugs ARE controlling area's like Luton in the UK, yes they are spiting in the face of YOUR good local area's no matter how you try and turn away and say it's not happening. May I thank you do gooders who sympathise with these radicals, you people that claim to 'understand' their claims and constantly deny any of what DOES happen on the streets, most from the safety of your very gentile area's where you don't have any radicals. Get your head out of your backside and look around the real world, I don't live in a media area, I live in the real world and watch gangs of Muslim youths chant vile hatred at us, often threatening cowardly violence, these same youths parents turn a blind eye. Let me also thank you for allowing the same vile people to stand on British streets threatening us with beheading and telling us to leave out country, thanks, you have enabled this sort of nonsense to happen, and don't think your new friends will thank you if Sharia comes in, you will be herded in with us dirty kuffars.

Please don't call me vile and full of racial hatred, you have NO CLUE what you are talking about, as said I have Muslim in laws, we all get on brilliantly and I'm proud to call my mother in law my mum after my own mother died, she's truly looked after me like her own son and that's what she calls me.

I am in a mixed race marriage, although my wife is British born her family are Guyanese (British Guyana), you have no idea of the hatred we get walking in Asian area's especially by the radicals, if people are not staring with hatred in their eyes they are saying words that I know the meaning of at us, not nice words, but then you get the radical women in the full burqa who spit at us, not all but they don't like us at all.

So don't tell me I'm a racist, you are no more than an apologist for these people.

So yes the OP is correct, you SHOULD look around and see what is happening, what is coming is a blood bath either way, a blood bath that could have been avoided by not playing to the religious / race card and instead using the very same laws that are used on us to stop and remove those that come to cause crime and fear.

Britain is a cesspool of corruption in government, all they care about is getting all they can for themselves, they opened our borders to everyone quite deliberately and refuse to shut them despite it being scientifically and financially proved we simply cannot cope and have failed to be able to cope for at least 5yrs with the numbers of people here.

We have enough criminals of all types here that are indigenous, why the hell are we importing more criminals, people who come here to not work, commit the same crimes that they did in their own country and in most cases amongst the radical Islamics get involved in sex crimes with children normally.

Just look at the numbers from all over Europe from the countries prison and arrest records, in almost every country bar Sweden who refuse to divulge the numbers even though neighbour Norway freely admit the numbers, these are the number of Muslim men and gangs who are radicals who have come from a sexually repressed place and turn into predators, rape being the number one crime and in staggering numbers..Go on look..

Of course stating the truth isn't right, we already have enough home grown scum of all creeds and colours who prey on us here, removing those that come here deliberately to do the same should not be an issue but thanks to the gullible courts, the EU and every countries politicians we the ordinary people get no rights, we ARE now second class citizens in the countries we live in.

If you are lucky to not be then I'm very happy for you but enjoy it while it lasts..

Call me racial if you like, it's not true but if it makes YOU feel better then fine by me. Call me filled with hatred if it makes you *think* you have a point, tell me its the media corrupting my mind, again utter nonsense as I have given you FIRST HAND experiences, just don't do me the disservice of saying what I have said is untrue, I've been to Luton where my brother works as a surveyor, there ARE gangs of radical youth's who control places like parks and numbers of streets, I've seen them myself.

Everything I have said is true, I have no issue with genuine Muslims who at least try and integrate, this country can be very nasty sometimes, we still have many bigots who play race and colours tactics, as I said, call me one if it makes you feel good, but it simply isn't true..



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posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 08:11 AM
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Originally posted by lnr42
Are you really going to attempt to churn out this despicable, pathetic, hateful and ignorant drivel again?

People that think like you would be the biggest threat but luckily your numbers are few.



The op is telling the truth and he's not the one churning out
ignorant drivel.
The biggest threat are people blinded by stupidity to believe
that islam is a religion of peace.
When the time comes,you and others like you,will be living
under islamic laws.
Unfortunately,our numbers are few,because everyone is too busy
being politically correct.When the true threat is finally realized,
it will be too late!



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 08:31 AM
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Some of you just keep using the term "radical" as poor justification for slagging off muslims in general.

To just try and mask that you're bigots, but often failing miserably.

Ohhhh okay, your bigoted ignorant tirade is okay, because you're talking about "radical" muslims!

So you're okay for muslims to come to this country then?

You're okay if mosques are built?

You should be if, as many of you claim you're only against "radical" muslims.
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posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 09:01 AM
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I love it the way you stick it to these bigots. The truth is Muslims are just handy for them now because they have been allowed to open their dirty mouths by TPTB, Ten years ago you heard diddly from these creatures about Muslims but now they have opinions about everything Muslim.

Had they been turned onto the Chinese or Africans or any other brown people, these bigots would be going to town on them too.

The really weird part is, these bigots go to hate websites to imbibe anti-Muslim vitriol. If I was to hate anything or anyone, I would go after the unadulterated facts on the thing I hate so I have a reasoned position and to correct my assumptions. Bigots invariably do not think like that because they have defective thinking processes and they can't even hate straight.
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posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 09:25 AM
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Wonder why you didn't reply let's try this again to see why you defend school kids being taught to hate




Muslim children probably get taught about zionism but abuse and lying about Christians and Jewish faiths is considered a sin.


They are being taught that jews are pigs in England so how am i bigoted to disaprove of this. It's funny when you get blamed for being a racist for disaproving of racism. Funny world we're living in.




The Protocols claptrap you bring up is a pile of steaming BS but if the Palestinians use it as propaganda in their fight with the zionists it would be logical.


Wrong again they are being taught all this in islamic schools not in palestine but in england i'll post the video that the bbc made when they went undercover i'm sure you'll say it's a zionist conspiracy




Now let use address your whining and your concern about antiSemitism from real Semites. Are you Jewish by happenstance or a nazi skinhead on account of your love of the EDL?


When did i even use the word semite ?, i said they are being told racist lies about JEWS. Please quote my mention of semites or anti semitism. i doubt you can because you made it up. and here we go the personal insults go because i disaprove of racism i must be a jew or part of the edl. if you read my posts you will see i said they are full of neo nazis.




I don't agree with the way Edl are going about it and there links to known nazis is shocking but yes radical islam is a threat. i said Radical, not islam itself


Yeah my love for the EDL is shown there




The problem with the EDL is that they were hijacked by combat 18/neo nazi types But what do you expect when they organise a demo where ANYONE can turn up. I'm sure many of you have seen the EDL perform nazi salutes. TRUE


God i'm such a racist zionazi i also see you complety ignored my mention of them being taught that homosexuals should be killed Why is that ? Also heres what the education security said regarding the protocols which you said i made up hmmmm




Mr Gove told the programme: ‘I have no desire or wish to intervene in the decisions that the Saudi government makes in its own education system. ‘But I’m clear that we cannot have anti-Semitic material of any kind being used in English schools. Ofsted are doing some work in this area. ‘They’ll be reporting to me shortly about how we can ensure that part-time provision is better registered and better inspected in the future.’ The text books for 15-year-olds revive the so-called ‘Protocols of the Elders of Zion’, which teach that Zionists want to establish world domination for Jews. The Saudi text books instruct pupils: ‘The Jews have tried to deny them (the Protocols) but there are many proofs of their veracity and their origin among the elders of Zion.’ The text books say the ‘main goal’ of the ‘Zionist movement’ is ‘for the Jews to have control over the world and its resources’ which, the book allege, Zionists seek to achieve partly by ‘inciting rancour and rivalry among the great powers so that they fight one another.’ Mr Gove said anyone who cites the Protocols of Zion is ‘indulging in one of the oldest and foulest anti Semitic smears that, that we know of’.




So are you going to

1. Say this video is a conspiracy, and the muslim teachers and textbooks were zionists or
2. Use your usual technique where you change the subject and start calling me racist for disaproving of racism ?




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