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Radical Islam - The Biggest Threat to your Freedoms

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posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 03:51 PM
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1. You alleged there has been 'AfroAmerican' bigotry in this thread. I asked you to provide one example. You haven't. Why? Because you can't, because there isn't any. So you delierately made it up. You lied. You are a liar. Why? To deflect and as a pathetic and underhand attempt a labelling people a racist and bigot. Pretty damn low in my book and downright contemptuous.


Who said anything about 'AfroAmerican' bigotry on this thread? I didn't. I said bigots, as you have on this thread, tend to also be racists against others such as AfroAmericans.

I see why you don't respond to my long comments; probably because you have reading comprehension.

A racist and a bigot is self labeling by their own words. I think you contrived outrage is laughable.



2. 'Christian TransAtlantic Slave trade. What relevance is there between that and the topic under discussion? Deflection again. An attempt to play on people's emotions and link those that have concerns with extremist Islam and the slave trade. Absolutely pathetic.


You extracted that from a conversation from several hours ago about the violent tendencies of certain religions. Christians ran the TransAtlantic Slave Trade and my comment is relevant as a response to allegations of violence from Muslims.

I think it is weak minded and sniveling to distort someone's comment like you have.



And I really fail to see what relevance your wife has, what ethnicity she is and what she has to say unless she is signed up as a member and chooses to contribute to the discussion, hopefully in a far more balaced and reasoned way than you have!


Strictly your opinion but you also have a reading comprehension issue or are you feigning your chest beating outrage.





And for the record; I don't have a problem with the people, I have a problem with the belief system and how it is used to control and manpulate people, how it is barbaric and repressive and restricts personal freedoms.


You also have a spelling problem. One or two spelling mistake is carelessness and any more is the product of a poor education.

It is also fascinating to watch a creature like you feel repressed and a loss of personal freedom from Muslims.

You really are a fundamentally dishonest personalty who has developed a fairly potent and hateful attitude to 1.8 billion Muslims and you get shirty about being misunderstood? Narcissistic traits.




I don't expect you to even attempt to understand the basic but all important difference.


Hey, we pale into insignificance under your brilliant mind.

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posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 04:00 PM
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This thread is turning downhill fast. Its funny when people outshine knowledge with ignorance.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 04:02 PM
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weirdly enough, the only name calling is coming from ilovecatbinlady...he seems determined to call everyone who disagrees with him a bigot and a racist, the rest of us are just trying to have a civilised discussion...



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 04:05 PM
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Originally posted by Ilovecatbinlady
Christians ran the TransAtlantic Slave Trade and my comment is relevant as a response to allegations of violence from Muslims.


I hope you are as quick to condemn the Muslims who enslaved 17 million Africans, 1.25+ million white Europeans and still enslave 800,000 Africans to this day.

Oh, and it was the 'evil' Christians who stopped the sea slave trade. Sadly the Muslims Arabs continued with their's right up to the 1960s, while elsewhere, Muslims still enslave almost a million Afrcans.

Talk about pot calling the kettle black.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 04:05 PM
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Originally posted by Freeborn
reply to post by ollncasino
 


You are quite correct.
Slavery also has a very long history in Africa and beyond, since well before the 'coming of the white man'.
And it's ironic that Christian White Abolitionists were at the very heart of the fight to outlaw slavery.

But I didn't want to derail the thread which was why I was hoping he would have started a thread on the subject.


I think the difference between Western slavery and slavery elsewhere is that the Christian West adopted a dehumanizing racist form of slavery. African slavery was about the absorption of small tribes into large one.

Arabs also engaged in slavery and they were equal opportunity slavers who would have either European or African slaves. Both Arab and African slavery was rarely a lifetime curse for the victim unlike in the European model.

With slavery is immoral and really a criminal act, the Christian West TransAtlantic slave trade consumed more that 300 million Africans but only after native South American Indians died by the tens of millions because they could not withstand the horrors of bondage.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 04:07 PM
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I hope you are as quick to condemn the Muslims who enslaved 17 million Africans, 1.25+ million white Europeans and still enslave 800,000 Africans to this day.


Of course I do.

Evil is evil irrespective of the perpetrator.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 04:08 PM
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Originally posted by destination now
weirdly enough, the only name calling is coming from ilovecatbinlady...he seems determined to call everyone who disagrees with him a bigot and a racist, the rest of us are just trying to have a civilised discussion...


He doesn't seem to get out much.

Didn't the 'politically correct' movement give up on the name calling when they realised they were outnumbered and very much losing the argument?

I can only speculate that ilovecatbinlady was too busy playing games in his parents basement to have noticed.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 04:10 PM
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Originally posted by Ilovecatbinlady
I think the difference between Western slavery and slavery elsewhere is that the Christian West adopted a dehumanizing racist form of slavery. African slavery was about the absorption of small tribes into large one.


Again, your ignorance knows no bounds.

The Arabs slave traders used to castrate males African before they were allowed onto Muslim lands.

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posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 04:11 PM
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Christians ran the slave trade in the US? have you people ever done any research on the slave trade? The slave trade was a mostly Jewish operation. It is no co-incidence that the center of the North American Slave trade was Newport Rhode Island, home of the highest jewish population at the time and the home of the nations oldest synagogue.

One of the biggest slave traders of the time was. Aaron Lopez. (A Jew)

en.wikipedia.org...

The carribean, and brazillian slave trade all dominated by jewish interests.

Of course speilberg wont tell you that in his slave movies
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posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 04:13 PM
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Originally posted by destination now
reply to post by Kram09
 


weirdly enough, the only name calling is coming from ilovecatbinlady...he seems determined to call everyone who disagrees with him a bigot and a racist, the rest of us are just trying to have a civilised discussion...


I am sorry you see my description of certain attitudes as name calling. I hate the sin and not the sinner.

When I call you a bigot, it means I think that you have bigoted attitudes. I am quite sure you are kind and good to none Muslims. If you continue to have bigoted believes, it becomes part of you and you should face it and be proud of it. Tell the people in your community that you dislike Muslim and believe them to be a threat.

Being a closet bigot is just nasty and weak.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 04:14 PM
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Originally posted by Ilovecatbinlady
Christian West TransAtlantic slave trade consumed more that 300 million Africans


Wrong again.

Refer to my above post.

Scholars put the number of Africans enslaved by white people at 12 million, while the Muslim Arabs enslaved 17 million. Plus 1.25 million white Europeans.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 04:17 PM
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Yes I know about this but many of the slavers were also Christian Westerners. I am surprised you are brave enough to comment anything negative about Jews. It is permitted to libel Muslims but not Jews in the West.

Anyway friends, I can't respond to all of you and I am getting tired so please excuse me for a while. I need a break.
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posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 04:20 PM
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Thanks to OP! S&F!


IMO: There are moderate muslims but there is no moderate Islam.
Terrorists are the true muslims who really follow the Quran. That's
why you never hear the so-called moderate muslims condemning all
the muslim terrorism.

Islam is a huge threat to Europe, no doubt about
it. What makes it even more dangerous is that most
people is not aware of what's going on. We are losing our
rights, freedom of speech and democracy step by step.
Europe is under attack by stealth Jihad!

I guess that makes me a nazi-who-wants-to-kill-6 million-jews?


What is Jihad threshold?


As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens.

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs.

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions.

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues.

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare.

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and ***ya, the tax placed on infidels.

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim

100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of Peace. Here there's supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word. Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.


Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat, written by Dr. Peter Hammond


Video from Islam what the West needs to know:
Walid Shoebat (former PLO terrorist) @ 0:00-0:37 "This is the question that the West needs to understand..."









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posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 04:23 PM
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Judging from this thread and the views of people, it seems like prophecy will defintiely play its part. A 2 sided war:

Muslims including true christians, jews and monotheists, agnostics, anti illuminati dudes on one side.

The other side led by the elite, tptb, illuminati, zionist and the masses they control, and this level of control is far worse and deceptive than any from of control religion may imply.

The illuminati and mass media paint muslims the villains. The muslims paint them the villains.

Which side will you choose?

If i have offended anyone i apologize, but those of you tat hate us muslims, dont worry your prayers will be answered soon, we muslims believe things will be getting a LOT WORSE for us in this world before it gets any better. May God help us all and forgive us all alike.

PS. First of all please havent we moved on from 9/11 7/7 being done by binladen in a cave? Its been 10years so much evidence has come out, come on guys do a little research i beg you


Secondly, after 2 100% illegitimate wars, afghanistan, Iraq, Gaza etc conducted by the Anglo/American/Israeli zionist regime, who no doubt control the mass media, which in turn paint Islam as the scum of the earth and who have made UNBELIEVABLE amounts of profit from it.
Doesnt that make you think for one second 'hey wait, somethings a bit fishy here?' Come on guys, forget the muslim deaths, look at your own soldiers who have died in these fake wars, do it for them, make a little effort in doing some research please i beg you..

Lastly, look at the global recession, that is wiping out middle class, with unemployment going through the roof, with ONLY the rich getting richer, yet the middle/lower class which is all of us in ATS losing value in our assets, the inflation affecting our spending. All this based on a system of interest/usury/credit that is destroying our infrastructure, and these superpower government are simply allowed to be BAILED OUT? liquidating funds, printing money into the economy, devaluing the currency. You all think this is a good system? You guys pointing fingers at islamic law, when our own government laws are brimming on failure after failure every other day?

You guys say islam and its raping looting etc, that is exactly what is going on in these wars!! Vast amount of Oil and Mineral resources being taken. TSA patdowns can EASILY be labelled as sexual harassments given other circumstances.

Ill think you find these laws and policies you 'islamaphobes' hold dear are failing all around you, everyday freedoms are being stripped away.. and people still point fingers where the MSM tells them to point.

But yeah dont worry, soon one guy is gonna come and be like, 'yah i got the answers to all your problems, establish the NWO, everyones lives will get better, (thought they wouldve sold out all their ideals/values/morals by then) and then prophecies will get played out...

And please dont ask for sources, just type all the keywords into ATS search and you will find your sources.. the truth is out there, if you are bothered to look, instead of being spoonfed..

Peace and Salaams to you all, and may God guide us all away from the evils of our grim reality..



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 04:24 PM
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Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by Ilovecatbinlady
Christian West TransAtlantic slave trade consumed more that 300 million Africans


Wrong again.

Refer to my above post.

Scholars put the number of Africans enslaved by white people at 12 million, while the Muslim Arabs enslaved 17 million. Plus 1.25 million white Europeans.





Wrong as usual. Where do you get you data from?

The information you have are really a distortion.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by Ilovecatbinlady
It is permitted to libel Muslims but not Jews in the West.


Its only libel if it isn't true.

What did Winston Churchill have to say about Islam?


“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia [rabies] in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. ...The fact that in Mohammedan law [sharia] every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities—but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world.”

—Winston Churchill (1874-1965) British Prime Minister


I suppose you will be wanting to call Churchill a bigot?

Or sue him for libel?



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 04:28 PM
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I can tell you that true believers of God don't want bigoted tools in their ranks when facing the Dajjal/antiChrist.

The weak minded will betray God and humanity in the end.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 04:32 PM
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Islam is like a cancer. When it is small, you can almost ingore it. But once it gets large, it threatens the life of the host that provides food for it. It is better to get rid of it when it is small. Otherwise it will be too late.
All of the Islamic countries are dead. Living dead. No useful civilization flourishes in there. Ironically, they are all eating off of the oil they are sitting on. But once the oil is gone, Islam will be the thing of the past. But it is better to keep them within the watchful eyes before it gets out of control.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 04:32 PM
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Originally posted by Ilovecatbinlady
Wrong as usual. Where do you get you data from?


www.scaruffi.com...

Where is you link for your outragous claim of 300 million Africans enslaved by Europeans?

That's right. You don't have one...oops



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 04:35 PM
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I suppose you will be wanting to call Churchill a bigot?


Yes Churchill was a bigot and like I said, if a person is a bigot they are invariably racists;




"Someone once asked Churchill if he had seen the film Carmen Jones, which starred Dorothy Dandridge. Winston replied that he didn't like blackamoors and had walked out early in the proceedings."

"When he was told that there was a very high mortality among Negroes from measels he growled 'Well there are plenty left. They've a high rate of production'".

"Churchill was irritated by Harold Macmillan's 1960 'Wind of Change' speech. 'Harold should not have gone to Africa encouraging the black men.'"


There are tons more of Churchill's antiblack attitudes especially when black people and Muslims were defending Britain with their lives from Hitler.

Churchill makes black guys fighting for Britain in Afghanistan suckers.



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