Comet Elenin is coming!

What if Comet Elenin was an incoming alien spacecraft?

Originally posted by wildespace
Reality check from NASA astrobiology.nasa.gov...

Yes, yes, yes, I know what the lot of you are gonna say.

What do you mean you know what we're going to say dog ? All I can say is the dates involved are incredible.
Thanks for posting that.

Originally posted by wildespace
Reality check from NASA astrobiology.nasa.gov...

Yes, yes, yes, I know what the lot of you are gonna say.

great...
now ALL the air is out of my balloon.
and my parade just got rained out..
(big sigh)
What am I gonna do with all these Comet Elnin T-shirts?

There are mounting evidence on this celestrial event which i think in my opinion we of all people should be aware off, look at the signs everywhere, i dont need to tell you what they are, they are rapidly increasing in strength and numbers which is attracting this very huge death star,comet elenin,planet x or whatever name you call it, its not the end of the world but an end of an era as we know it,in GOD's time. Preparation in your soul is absolutely necessary, you can discern it yourself with all the information and resources available . GOD BLESS!



FLASH, FIRE, THE VOICE
WITHIN YOU

by David Martin

JESUS AND MARY have come forth in these latter days to alert the world’s peoples that soon there will be sent an explosive Warning from God which, if not effective, will be followed by a great fiery Chastisement wherein “billions will be lost” [1] (Our Lady, October 6, 1973).

The Warning is a worldwide incident of catastrophic proportions which will shake the entire planet. It will be a personal and profound enlightenment from the Eternal Father to every soul upon earth and will be universally acknowledged as having come from the All-Powerful.




Probable cause: Veronica saw a massive comet break apart and a huge piece strike the sun (Dec. 24, 1973). We know more about the effects than the cause because, clearly, Our Lady wants the focus on the spiritual dimension, the soul preparation. Nothing else is more important.



Although the Warning will be awesome, it is not intended to be a punishment but a desperate plea to change our lives and society for the better.

After all, how long could we expect our patient Creator to tolerate the rampant “four sins crying to Heaven for vengeance”: abortion or murder, homosexuality, oppression of the poor and defrauding laborers of wages?

Before the terrible hand of justice is felt upon the world, the Warning will be the final attempt of a loving Father to reach His children of earth.

A full and intensive understanding of this cataclysm-event has come to be known through Our Lady’s message at Bayside, given to the late seer, Veronica of the Cross.



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(front, l to r) John Benevdes, James Donohue (Vice President) and Darryl Bolisay; (back, l to r) Peter Frank, Michael Mangan (head of Lay Order and President) and William Dykes; not present, Luis Camacho, who is ill.


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Our Lady said on December 31, 1974:

Unprecedented; Unprecedented
“The world will receive a major Warning of great magnitude. It will be a spectacle that has never been seen in the world before.”

Veronica described this coming Warning in ecstasy on April 21, 1973: [2]

Huge explosion
“It’s as though everything has exploded in the sky—the flash! And it’s very hot! It’s very warm! Oh! Oh! It feels like I’m burning. Ah-h-h!

“Now the sky is very white. Colors—blues, purples—it’s like a huge explosion. . . . And the voice, Our Lady says, is a voice within you. [Voice:] ‘Your warning before Chastisement!’ Flash, fire, and the voice within you. The final Warning before Chastisement.”

Our Lady was concise on December 24, 1974:

Your epiphany
“There will be a gross, immense, terrifying to many, Warning to mankind.”

In a word, the Warning is a herald of the great Chastisement and the Second Coming of Jesus, so that every person on earth will have their chance to reflect on their spiritual state beforehand. And it only behooves us to do so, since we certainly want to be in God’s grace before the Chastisement in which three-fourths of humanity will perish in the flames of Divine justice. Therefore Our Lady said on September 28, 1974:

Deep impact
“It is from the merciful heart of the Eternal Father that you will receive a great Warning. Man will feel that the very powers of the elements have shaken the very foundations of his being, so great will be the impact of this Warning from the Father. But none shall doubt that it had come from the Father.”

Veronica stated in her commentary of May 30, 1973:

Your soul on fire
“I have seen the Warning. . . . It will be a tremendous explosive force in the sky, and many will think that the end of the world has come. But actually for—oh, a short time you will feel as though you’re on fire. . . .
“It will be a personal warning to each soul. And this Warning will be to try to purify you so that we can avoid the ultimate Chastisement.”

On Tuesday afternoon, February 15, 1994, while talking with Michael Mangan (SMWA president) on the phone, Veronica received an ominous, disturbing vision of the coming Warning, her last communication from Heaven on this subject.

Veronica was looking out her kitchen window when she saw the sky on fire with all flames and gases. At this time, Our Lady informed her that many will die of sheer fright and that there would be a lack of oxygen.




Date of Warning within

Instant Polaroid photo taken of Shrine statue on September 14, 1971 in which Jacinta, child-seer of Fatima, miraculously writes from Heaven, “Jacinta 1972.”
Jacinta described the Warning before she died in 1920: “It will seem as though it were already the end of the world. And in this cataclysm everything will be separated from the sky, which will turn white as snow.”
Our Lady said within this miraculous picture lies the day, the hour, the month, and the year of the Warning (and Chastisement). Also, on February 5, 1994, Our Lady instructed Veronica to add the 9 and 7 on the photo, which equals 16, and that we are to figure out what this means.



The Blessed Virgin gave the world an in-depth description of this coming cataclysm on June 12, 1976:

Global Warning
“There will be a tremendous explosion, and the sky shall roll back like a scroll. This force shall go within the very core of the human. He will understand his offenses to his God. However, this Warning will be of short duration, and many shall continue upon their road to perdition, so hard are the hearts hardened now. . . .
“As the day follows night, so shall this Warning follow soon. Beware of the sunrise! Do not look up to the sky—the flash! Beware of the sunrise! Do not look up to the sky—the flash! Close your windows; draw your shades, remain inside. Do not venture outside your door, or you will not return. Pray! Prostrate yourselves upon your floors! Pray with arms outstretched, and beg mercy of your God the Father.”

Indeed, the Warning is not to be taken lightly, nor is it to be wished for, but it is to be prayed against (Jesus, October 1, 1988). As Heaven has said, there will be deaths that occur due to fright.

Bible prophecy
The Gospel speaks of that frightful day soon when we will see “men withering away for fear, and expectation of what shall come upon the whole world. For the powers of heaven shall be moved” (St. Luke 21:26). “And heaven passed away as a scroll that is rolled up; and every mountain and the islands were moved out of their places” (Apocalypse 6:14).

A day of reckoning
With the coming Warning, the world will be visited from on High in a manner that has never been seen or experienced from the beginning of creation. It will be a day of reckoning upon the world, as every person upon earth hears the voice of their God speaking from within. The cosmic flash and other observed phenomena of the Warning will be but accessory elements that the Father will allow to achieve His own noble objective.

We must understand that the very essence of the Warning is supernatural, as the Eternal Father will intervene and communicate directly to each soul upon earth. At that time, a burning heat and interior voice will be felt from within, as every man, woman, and child of the age of reason is made to see exactly how they are offending God in their life.

It will be a revelation of our sins, a mirror of our conscience placed before our eyes. Our Lady elaborated on December 6, 1974:

Boom or bust
“You will receive a great majestic Warning from the heavens. This will prepare you to either improve and strengthen your spirit, or you will become more hardened and farther from the light. Believe what you see and learn by it.”

During the Warning, God will show us exactly the state of our soul so that we will see ourselves as God sees us. However, we will not be sentenced for any verdict received. For we must remember: this is just a Warning—a preview of what would actually be, had we passed over the veil.

God in His mercy will then back up and give each soul the chance to reflect upon its spiritual state so that its remaining days upon earth can be used to purify and prepare itself for Our Lord’s Second Coming, which will climax the great Chastisement.

Powerful results
The Warning is indeed a great act of mercy that God now extends to the world from His Heart. For through it, many will be converted and brought back to the fold. Through the liberating light of this Warning, millions will once again have something to live for.



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Those who have been steadfast in prayer for their loved ones with no apparent success should console themselves with the very real possibility that the graces from their prayers will suddenly be applied to their family and friends at the time of the Warning. Our Lord said on April 5, 1975:

Faith rewarded
“Know that the graces are counted for the coming Warning.”

In the interim, it is now time to be ready and to have our lives and provisions in order. We don’t say get ready— we say be ready. We must live each day now as if it were our last.

We must understand that Heaven does not want the coming Warning to be an occasion when we stiffen up with pride or become paralyzed by fear, for that is not being ready. They would rather that we yield ourselves gently into God’s hands and trust in His providence.

To have this peace of mind, it is necessary that we remove any barriers that might be separating us from God or keeping us at a distance. In other words, it’s time to get to confession. As Our Lady stated on December 24, 1973:

Go to confession
“You must cleanse your souls of all sin, mortal and venial.”

Any willful violation of the Ten Commandments should be confessed immediately, especially any serious offenses. Our Lady warned on October 2, 1970:

Leading cause
“The sins of the flesh send more souls to hell.” [3]

In addition, any back-biting, gossiping, or stinginess will be like blotches or stains on our soul that will certainly show up on the Divine X-ray when we’re examined through and through by the Eternal Judge. So it’s important that we root out anything disgraceful or uncharitable and that we use this time to be ready. The best way is to follow the Message of Heaven.

We all must observe the counsels that have come to us through the Message of Our Lady of the Roses at Bayside—counsels that have all but vanished from the universal Church. The bishops and priests in the Church are in a fog, which is why the Warning must come. Our Lady stated on November 24, 1973:

Clergy jolted
“The Father plans to awaken . . . those who have fallen asleep in His House by a great Warning.”

And it will come like a thief in the night when we least expect it. Be it known that the Warning will not be polite, but will be an abrupt and awesome day. The Eternal Father will have His way as the world is suddenly awakened again to His existence.

Our Lady said the truth lies in every person’s heart, their conscience. She said we cannot run from the Spirit. Like Adam and Eve in the Garden, the Warning will search us out, and for “those in the darkness, it will force the light into their hearts” (Our Lady, December 31, 1974).

All who receive these words with joy and who abide by the message will not have to endure the sudden horror that will befall the ungraced during the Warning. Our Lady Herself gave us this beautiful promise on April 5, 1975:

Worry-free
“All who remain in the light of grace will have no fear. They will pass through this great Warning without suffering.”

We have been given this hope. May these words remain ever lodged in our hearts as we make ready for this magnanimous act of the Eternal Father. Shout from the rooftops that the Warning approaches and is nigh at hand, “even at the doors” (St. Matt. 24:33).

I have no words.

Here you can get a tiny bit of information about some of the effects of a given impact.


www.purdue.edu...

Just got a quick point to add to this, as i have not seen it mentioned in here.... If elenin is going to get as close as some have said, what are the chances of it actually hitting the moon? and if it does, what would the effects be? Obviously i would prefer it to hit the moon over earth ( depending on the size of it) but surely this would also have some sort of effect...

LMAO at NASA threatening with logo usage.
Pathetic.

Originally posted by 2012king
Just got a quick point to add to this, as i have not seen it mentioned in here.... If elenin is going to get as close as some have said, what are the chances of it actually hitting the moon? and if it does, what would the effects be? Obviously i would prefer it to hit the moon over earth ( depending on the size of it) but surely this would also have some sort of effect...

The chance of it hitting the moon is zero.

Originally posted by wildespace
Reality check from NASA astrobiology.nasa.gov...

Yes, yes, yes, I know what the lot of you are gonna say.

its amazing to me how Scientists with all this supposed higher learning all say they know what is NOT going to happen but when you ask for info. to back that up like oh say the size of Elenin, or heck even where Elenin is most cannot even find it, or even give a straight answer or theory, this Astrobiologist probly thinks Elenin is made up of ice.

Some Expert

By the way an Astrobiologist is a person who studies the possibility of life beyond Earth.

I am not a religious person but I do appreciate the info just given about the sky and flashes, etc. I am trying to sit here and imagine the sky appearing as a scroll...very hard for me to imagine or get a visualizatin of it.
Yes, I can though imagine people dying just from fear alone. That is definately possible.

Originally posted by wildespace
Reality check from NASA astrobiology.nasa.gov...

Yes, yes, yes, I know what the lot of you are gonna say.

Mainstream science will always say "those conspiracy nuts are off their rockers!!"...truth is we know, very little about Elenin. We can say who was right and who was wrong as it gets closer, All the data NASA has is an estimate nothing is 100% confirmed fact. When people bash others for trying to guess, they are being hypocritical because what they know about Elenin is the same thing, a guess. This Mr. Morrison fellow proves my point with this statement:

When comets or asteroids are first discovered, their orbits are quite uncertain; usually it takes several months of observations to firmly establish the orbit.

Still after several months of observation anything can happen. We cant rule things out logic is defied on a daily basis...

Originally posted by Artorius
Still after several months of observation anything can happen.

No, not anything. Right now, Elenin's orbit is based on 612 individual observations made over a 90-day period. Elenin's pass through the inner solar system is nailed down quite well now, to a good degree of accuracy. Elenin will pass within 34,945,986.1 km of Earth, plus or minus 118,422.9 km (or 0.3%).

reply to post by 2012king


As things stand there is absolutely no chance of Elenin hitting the Moon. The closest approach (round figures) is 0.2 AU and the Moon is 0.002 AU

There are plenty of other things out there that might hit the Moon!!

Originally posted by nataylor

Originally posted by Artorius
Still after several months of observation anything can happen.

No, not anything. Right now, Elenin's orbit is based on 612 individual observations made over a 90-day period. Elenin's pass through the inner solar system is nailed down quite well now, to a good degree of accuracy. Elenin will pass within 34,945,986.1 km of Earth, plus or minus 118,422.9 km (or 0.3%).

Ah another cold hard scientist!

Nothing in this Universe is nailed down. Whilst I agree that things may be pretty definite there is always that slim chance that the boffins did not see that dark body that swings Elenin into a direct path to impact on Earth. Nothing is certain and the science is never settled.

After all the Russians think it is being guided

jm2c- I would like to point out that it has been postulated that a gamma ray burst would make the sky light up due to blasts of radiation hitting the atmosphere, blocking out the sun and stars, and a further stripping of the atmosphere in total could occur. That would give you the desired effect but we would all die. But I guess that's the point. You get a warning and if you don't heed it... well.

reply to post by PuterMan


i think i misread the first post and saw the distance of 0.24 and compared it to the moon distance of 0.00256. im sure i read somewhere else that it would be passing between the earth and the moon so thats what threw me

Originally posted by PuterMan
Ah another cold hard scientist!

Nothing in this Universe is nailed down. Whilst I agree that things may be pretty definite there is always that slim chance that the boffins did not see that dark body that swings Elenin into a direct path to impact on Earth. Nothing is certain and the science is never settled.

After all the Russians think it is being guided

There is possible, and then there is likely. The sun will rise tomorrow. Is it *possible* that it won't? Sure, I guess the sun could blow up, or the Earth could disappear. Is it *likely* the sun won't rise? No, not at all. Is it *likely* that Elenin's orbit will change drastically from the current calculations? No.

It seems very silly to put equal weight on all possible outcomes, regardless of their likelihood.

Originally posted by PuterMan

Originally posted by nataylor

Originally posted by Artorius
Still after several months of observation anything can happen.

No, not anything. Right now, Elenin's orbit is based on 612 individual observations made over a 90-day period. Elenin's pass through the inner solar system is nailed down quite well now, to a good degree of accuracy. Elenin will pass within 34,945,986.1 km of Earth, plus or minus 118,422.9 km (or 0.3%).

Ah another cold hard scientist!

Nothing in this Universe is nailed down. Whilst I agree that things may be pretty definite there is always that slim chance that the boffins did not see that dark body that swings Elenin into a direct path to impact on Earth. Nothing is certain and the science is never settled.

After all the Russians think it is being guided

No, Sorcha Faal (Sucha Fail) claims the Russians think it is being guided. That is a lie. If the "boffins" did not see "that dark body that swings Elenin into a direct path to impact on Earth," or if it were a "guided" object, then the orbital determination would not work at fitting the observed position of the comet over the past three months of time. What we see is that the orbital elements do fit the observed position of the comet to within half an arcsecond, which, due to the atmosphere, is the limit of angular resolution one can achieve in deep space images without adaptive optics (most or all of the telescopes used to find and track asteroids and comets have no adaptive optics nor do they need it).

Elenin's orbital elements were updated again at the JPL Small-Body Database:

Closest approach to Earth: 2011-Oct-16 19:52, +/- 19 minutes
Minimum distance at closest approach to Earth: 34,898,790.4 km
Closest approach to the Sun: 2011-Sep-10 17:11, +/- 13 minutes

For reference, here are the previous updates:

As of March 10th:
Closest approach to Earth: 2011-Oct-16 20:20, +/- 26 minutes
Minimum distance at closest approach to Earth: 34,827,592.2 km
Closest approach to the Sun: 2011-Sep-10 17:28, +/- 18 minutes

As of March 3rd:
Closest approach to Earth: 2011-Oct-16 21:08, +/- 39 minutes
Minimum distance at closest approach to Earth: 34,699,527.9 km
Closest approach to the Sun: 2011-Sep-10 17:55, +/- 26 minutes

As of February 23rd:
Closest approach to Earth: 2011-Oct-16 21:39, +/- 1 hour and 7 minutes
Minimum distance at closest approach to Earth: 34,833,620 km