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Originally posted by cabuki
reply to post by gringoboy
Any idea how big yu55 is? I just saw how on the 9th, it gets 0.0023au from earth, thats freaking CLOSE. Why are we not discussing this? All this talk about the 11th, is for elenin right? So we would have both right next to us at that point then? Would there be any chance of yu55 and elenin somehow hitting each other? Sorry to bombard you with questions, i just find it interesting that we dont discuss yu55 even though it seems like its on a direct course to us in november. Crazy stuff man. Stars for you!
Originally posted by kalenga
reply to post by LeoVirgo
Yes, it is weird how all these shows are coming on with aliens as friends etc.... Disclosure might not be in our lifetime but the powers that be are readying the next generation for it, in my opinion?
Hopefully this next generation will further that aim?
Actually if you look it up now, the distance is even closer. On the 7th, it shows its going to be IN our atmosphere, its no longer only .00088 AU, its 9.0E-4au now, check out the link...JPL Database
My critical thinking skills tell me that there must be a reason for why EU is ignored by the scientific community to such extent that many well-read people haven't even heard of it.
Originally posted by cabuki
reply to post by gringoboy
Any idea how big yu55 is? I just saw how on the 9th, it gets 0.0023au from earth, thats freaking CLOSE. Why are we not discussing this? All this talk about the 11th, is for elenin right? So we would have both right next to us at that point then? Would there be any chance of yu55 and elenin somehow hitting each other? Sorry to bombard you with questions, i just find it interesting that we dont discuss yu55 even though it seems like its on a direct course to us in november. Crazy stuff man. Stars for you!
Originally posted by gringoboy
reply to post by sickofitall2012
The comet will pass by on between mid-september/late october but will be closest on the 16th october. However the asteroid yu55 which is reported to be passing between earth and moon on the 8th november(8/11/11) at a distance of 149,000 miles, rate of speed 34,600-ish mph, and size 1340 feet.This is the thing, where will be the moon on its transit - thats the dillema. The moon is 238,857 miles from earth and current figures put the asteroid to within 12 million inches of the moon in itsorbit as both transit at the same time.
If this impacts the moon then the planets water will be perturbed and a deluge will ensue. However take comfort that nasa predicts no impacts with earth for 100 years, remember earth, not the moon.
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“If an asteroid hits the moon, it will just get another crater,” says Gareth Wynn-Williams, an astronomer at the University of Hawaii. It would take a moon-size object to move the moon, says Clark Chapman, a planetary scientist at the Southwest Research Institute, and most likely the moon wouldn’t survive. Hitting it with a much larger, denser object would be like whacking an egg with a golf club.
But let’s say that the moon and the thing hitting it will react like solid billiard balls. None of the known asteroids larger than 60 miles in diameter orbit anywhere near the moon. OK, how about if the largest known asteroid, Ceres—which at 600 miles across is roughly the size of California and Nevada combined—did manage to slip out of its place in the asteroid belt and set out on a collision course for the moon?
Hardly a budge, Wynn-Williams says. It’s the equivalent of a four-year-old trying to knock over an NFL lineman. The moon orbits the Earth at some 0.635 miles per second. This orbital momentum is so great that it would overwhelm the impact force of a collision and just continue zinging around the planet.
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Ceres was named after the Roman goddess of the harvest, of growing plants, and motherly love. It is the smallest of the dwarf planets, a new category of astronomical bodies created by the International Astronomical Union in 2006. Dwarf planets currently includes Pluto, Eris, and Ceres. Pluto's demotion from the list of solar system planets grabbed front-page headlines in 2006. But the debate over the qualifications for planethood reaches back to the discovery of Ceres.
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Taking these arguments together, an appeal to small number statistics seems unconvincing.
It instead suggests that the terrestrial impact rate is substantially higher than current NEO
population models imply. This is consistent with an unseen cometary contribution to the ter-
restrial impact hazard14,15 , questioning the conclusions, in this respect, of the 2003 NASA NEO
Science Definition Report13.
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R.S. McMillan, R.E. Gold, T.B. Spahr, A.W. Harris and S.P. Worden, “Study to Deter-
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RADAR IMAGES CAPTURE LARGEST POTENTIALLY HAZARDOUS ASTEROID EVER
Astronomers have used the world's two most powerful radar telescopes to make the most detailed images ever obtained for a large asteroid in a potentially Earth-threatening orbit.
Nearly four kilometers across, the huge rock known as 1999 JM8 silently passed only 8.5 million kilometers from the Earth in early August. The small asteroid was completely unknown before May. Every few centuries, a rock like this impacts the Earth, with the potential to disrupt modern civilization. Radar from two of the largest radio telescopes, Arecibo and Goldstone, tracked and imaged the Apollo asteroid as it approached to only 22 times the distance to the Moon. Although 1999 JM8 missed the Earth, thousands of similar but unknown asteroids likely exist that cross Earth's orbit. In fact, four asteroids have passed inside the orbit of the Moon within the last decade. Possibly of larger concern to humanity are the more numerous rocks near 100 meters across. Were one of these to strike an ocean, a dangerous tidal wave might occur.
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What is bigger than Apophis and will arrive on November 8, 2011?
Asteroid 2005 YU55 on November 8, 2011
And no one is talking much about it.
This asteroid, first discovered in December of 2005, remains mostly a mystery. Even its size is a guess. What's not a guess is when it will arrive again in the vicinity of earth.
Apophis was big news a few years ago when it was predicted to hit in 2029. Much more is known about Apophis than 2005 YU55 and now it is said that Apophis will miss in 2029. The size of Apophis is estimated to be about 270 meters across, about 885 feet. 2005 YU55 is estimated to be as large as 280 meters or 918 feet.
Certainly not big enough to be a planet killer. Worst-case scenario, using the given estimates of size, the most the thing could do would be to wipe out an area around 900 square miles. It’s certainly enough to take out any city along with all of the suburbs. It would leave a crater about four times the size of the meteor crater in Arizona.
The problem with 2005 YU55 is that so much is up in the air. The actual size estimate given by astronomers is between 120 and 280 meters, that’s more than a 100% difference between the upper and lower estimate. Even if the estimates on its orbit are correct, this thing has been left unattended in space for over three years. It will have been out of sight for over 4 years when it returns in April of next year. How would its orbit change if it were to have a collision with some small object during this time?
We will certainly learn more about this asteroid in April 2010 when it returns. Chances are nothing will happen at all. With any luck this will just pass us by like so many that have come before. Everyday on earth we take part in a cosmic lottery of sorts. Problem is, no one wants to collect the grand prize. Some day though, we will collect that prize. Let just hope it’s not in out lifetime.
That's what Arecibo did last week, bouncing a signal off of near-Earth asteroid 2005 YU55. As its name suggests, 2005 YU55 was discovered in 2005; actually it was discovered right at the end of 2005 (that's what the "Y" tells you), presumably when it was relatively close to Earth. It has an orbital period of 1.22 years, so it's had about three orbits of the Sun for the roughly four Earth orbits of the Sun since 2005 YU55 last approached Earth. This time, it came quite close in solar system terms, within about 2.3 million kilometers.
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Based on mutt Asteroid 2005 YU55 was listed on NASA's "Sentry Risk Page" as having as small (about one in 10 million) chance of hitting the Earth in the next century. We observed this asteroid with the Arecibo Planetary Radar system on April 19-23.
The previouosly previously identified potential Eath impacts found using several hundred optical telescope data over 5 years were excluded by a few Arecibo radar measurements over two days.
These observations measured the distance to the asteroid at a resolution of 7.5 meters, about 25 feet, when it was over a million miles away.
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April 29, 2010
D.C. Agle 818-393-9011 Jet Propulsion Laboratory [email protected]
Near-Earth asteroid 2005 YU55 was "imaged" by the Arecibo Radar Telescope in Puerto Rico on April 19. Data collected during Arecibo's observation of 2005 YU55 allowed the Near-Earth Object Program Office at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory to refine the space rock's orbit, allowing scientists to rule out any possibility of an Earth impact for the next 100 years. The space rock was about 2.3 million kilometers (1.5 million miles) from Earth at the time this image of the radar echo was generated. The ghostly image has a resolution of 7.5 meters (25 feet) per pixel. It reveals 2005 YU55 as a spherical object about 400 meters (1,300 feet) in size.
50% Uncertainty Reduction!
Not only can the radar provide data on an asteroid's dimensions, but also on its exact location in space. Using Arecibo's high-precision radar astrometry capability, scientists were able to reduce orbit uncertainties for YU55 by 50 percent.
100% No Impact for 100 Years!
"At one time we had classified 2005 YU55 as a potential threat," said Steve Chesley, a scientist at JPL's Near-Earth Object Program Office. "Prior to the Arecibo radar passes on April 19 thru 21, we had eliminated almost all upcoming Earth flybys as possibilities of impact. But there were a few that had a low remaining probability of impact. After incorporating the data from Arecibo, we were able to rule impacts out entirely for the next 100 years."
Radar Clicks Asteroid's Pic - NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory
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Well, from April 19 to 23, Arecibo watched and tracked it. Within a couple of days, the data had allowed astronomers to refine 2005 YU55's orbit, reducing the uncertainty in its position by 50 percent. That was enough that there were no longer any conceivable future paths for the asteroid that intersected Earth, at least for the next 100 years, and 2005 YU55 has now been removed from the watch list. (Incidentally, the Arecibo data also revealed that the asteroid was actually about 400 meters across, twice as large and therefore an order of magnitude more massive -- and dangerous, if it really were an impact risk -- than previously thought.)
After incorporating the data from Arecibo, we were able to rule impacts out entirely for the next 100 years."
Assuming that I performed the math correctly, 2005 YU55 will subtend approximately 0.4 arc-seconds, which is about 1/10th the angular diameter of Uranus. It's magnitude at the time will depend primarily upon the asteroid's albedo.
Lunar escape velocity is only 2.4 kilometers/second (1.5 miles/second).
2005 YU55 makes two close passes in November of 2011 and in both cases it is moving at about 15.5 km/sec relative to the Moon.
An impact at that speed would lob many pieces of lunar material and perhaps some of the asteroid from the lunar surface rapidly enough to escape the Moon's gravity. Many, perhaps most, of those would end up on the Earth (absent our atmosphere, of course).
Tycho is 85 kilometers (51 miles) in diameter and was probably created well over 100 million years ago. An impact causing a new crater that size could be bad news for Earth as well.
I used a calculator for lunar impacts and found that an asteroid 3 kilometers in diameter striking the Moon at 20 kps at angle of 90 degrees would produce a crater 85 kilometers in diameter, the same size at Tycho. The energy liberated would be over 2 million megatons. The world's nuclear arsenal is about 5 thousand megatons.
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