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Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by undo
I hope you realize that the book of Enoch has been proven to be a fake? The older part of it was written after the old testament, and the newer parts written after the new testament. In both cases, it was written after the original scriptures, indicating it was a copy-off and impossible to guarantee validity of originality.
Originally posted by bogomil
Re Undo
You wrote:
["no christians normally don't ascribe to the virgin birth being artificial insemination."]
The present direction is about how such relates to SCIENCE. If you wish to switch to doctrinal perspectives, to ancient science perspective or anything else, this has nothing to do with contemporary science on an evidence level.
A great favourite with some christians.
Originally posted by undo
i'm just looking for answers that satisfy the most questions.
And I am giving you examples all the time, which you consequently ignore.
So any claim, however absurd, id true until disproven? That's your 'logic'?
I have already given you a very reliable source on this, which you ofcourse ignored, because while it fits the requests you prove yourself with, it unfortunately didn't fit your prefabricated answer (and still doesn't)
Your chestbeating about your religious knowledge doesn't impress me. Demonstrate it, instead of just declaring yourself an authority. And once more, establish some solid cornerstones for your fabulations.
Originally posted by MrXYZ
Originally posted by undo
i'm just looking for answers that satisfy the most questions.
But you can't just throw logic and rationality out of the window just to get answers that SUBJECTIVELY satisfy you. You either know something because you have objective evidence, or you have to ADMIT that you DON'T know because of a lack of credible evidence...you fall in the 2nd category as long as you don't come up with hard scientific evidence other than subjective texts/art.
Sorry to burst your bubble
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Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by undo
One last time, the only pseudo-evidence you have are ancient texts and art...that is NOT scientific proof, no matter how often you claim it is
You have a very incomplete picture of history as you fully focus on art/texts and completely ignore the complete lack of other evidence. History doesn't back you up!!
Originally posted by undo
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Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by undo
One last time, the only pseudo-evidence you have are ancient texts and art...that is NOT scientific proof, no matter how often you claim it is
You have a very incomplete picture of history as you fully focus on art/texts and completely ignore the complete lack of other evidence. History doesn't back you up!!
the other evidence is, that nothing that was described is scientifically impossible, and i included that in my deliberations.
Originally posted by undo
reply to post by Gorman91
it just has the added benefit of correcting the original assumption that it must be myth because it isn't scientifically possible. it's the original logic that was used to call it myth, in reverse.
Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by undo
ANCIENT TEXTS AREN'T PROOF!!!
For crying out loud, people keep on telling you texts/art aren't scientific evidence...and in every single one of your answers you continue talking about ancients texts as your source of evidence.
Repeat after me: ANCIENT TEXTS AREN'T SCIENTIFIC PROOF!!!
Originally posted by undo
Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by undo
ANCIENT TEXTS AREN'T PROOF!!!
For crying out loud, people keep on telling you texts/art aren't scientific evidence...and in every single one of your answers you continue talking about ancients texts as your source of evidence.
Repeat after me: ANCIENT TEXTS AREN'T SCIENTIFIC PROOF!!!
repeat after me, modern texts are not
proof that ancient texts are fables.