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Originally posted by Advantage
Is this true?
My husband and I have spent a lot of time in London in years past and this certainly wasnt the way it was previously. When did this happen if true? Is it due to the overly sensitive Muslim population Ive been told of recently. Recently in like the last 7 or so years?
Originally posted by gandalphthegrey
Please don't take this the wrong way christians , but why should you be treated any differently than any other brainwashing cult ?
I find Christians are generally bigotted , self righteous and spiritually unable to walk without a crutch .
Your religion is based on a ficticious character from an ill documented history .
These are my beliefs . would you ridicule them ?
UTTER TWADDLE .
Mr Vine is being an over sensetive neurotic
it is not " socially unacceptable " to be a christian - but it is now socially acceptable not to be and even GASP publicily challenge the veracity of religious dogmas .
thats what Mr Vine and his ilk are really afraid of - the simple fact that " god did it " is no longer the unchallenged answer to everything they do not understand
its my opinion that Mr Vine has his head stuck well and truely in the past , in a time when the masses were cowed by threats of damnation from the pulpit now they are not , he and his kind need to be dragged , kicking and screaming if nessecary - into the 21st century - and learn that thier dogma is no longer accepted without question thats what really scares Mr Vine - its only a miniscule minority that actually care whether he is a christian and hold it against him , what worries him is the much large minority who no longer believe Mr Vines beliefs , just because they are told to backed by the " authority " that ` god says so ` and ` its in the bible `
so - come on Mr Vine and all like him - stop whimpering in a corner and come out and argue your case in free debate - the days of your monoploy are gone - get over it
Originally posted by Vicky32
Originally posted by gandalphthegrey
Please don't take this the wrong way christians , but why should you be treated any differently than any other brainwashing cult ?
I find Christians are generally bigotted , self righteous and spiritually unable to walk without a crutch .
Your religion is based on a ficticious character from an ill documented history .
These are my beliefs . would you ridicule them ?
Oh gladly, if that were an invitation! Your beliefs are merely angry prejudices. And your spelling sucks!
I find internet atheists far more self-righteous than the most self-righteous American televangelist.. What argument will you trot out next? Paedophile priests? Poor persecuted gays? Creationists?
What about a story about how as a precocious 9 year old, you realised that everyone around you was in awe of your stellar brain-power, and that it was your duty to speak out against the evils of religion. However, you never attack Judaism, because it bites back - or Hinduism because you've managed to miss all the news stories of their extraordinary recent violence. (Because you literally didn't see what you didn't want to notice.)
Vicky
Originally posted by gandalphthegrey
Is it me or do others think that Christians like to be hated because it makes them feel more "Christian" ?
The main reason why Christians feel like they are being pushed out is that there is little to no religious broadcasting on British TV,
Originally posted by The Djin
Originally posted by gandalphthegrey
Is it me or do others think that Christians like to be hated because it makes them feel more "Christian" ?
it's their job to be hated and martyred, the circular reasoning is this makes their case.
Originally posted by ignorant_ape
reply to post by Vicky32
hi - please try reading my post again , and this time actually understand it .
to answer your accusation - no - never posted to H2G2 , but i would like to see some evidence of your claim
because to be blunt - the majority of stories i have heard that claim " i was persecuted for being a christian " turned out to be actually cases of " i attempted to force my beliefs on others and when challenged i ran away crying "
Originally posted by Vicky32
Originally posted by ignorant_ape
reply to post by Vicky32
hi - please try reading my post again , and this time actually understand it .
to answer your accusation - no - never posted to H2G2 , but i would like to see some evidence of your claim
because to be blunt - the majority of stories i have heard that claim " i was persecuted for being a christian " turned out to be actually cases of " i attempted to force my beliefs on others and when challenged i ran away crying "
Oh you'd be right at home on h2g2! Check it out... Hoo and EtB will embrace you as their long-lost son.
You are an arrogant little man aren't you?
If you look at h2g2, you'll see all the evidence you're ever going to get... But of course you'll interpret it to suit your sad prejudices.
One thing the h2g2 experience taught me, my father was right when he used to say "There's none as deaf as those who won't hear"... (NB - he was an atheist, in case you want to attack him as well!)
And finally - I have no further interest in 'debating' with you. Sadly, words like "closed-minded" and "troll" spring to mind...
Vicky
Originally posted by The Djin
reply to post by Shminkee Pinkee
The main reason why Christians feel like they are being pushed out is that there is little to no religious broadcasting on British TV,
Your kidding right ?
And why should there be when there is no "nonreligious" broadcasting ?
Originally posted by detachedindividual
reply to post by The Djin
I would also suggest that many of those screaming about this are actually on the far right of their religious ideology. These are the kinds of people who would hold protests against gay partnership, gay parenting, religious freedom of others, women's right, religion in schools etc. That's not to say they shouldn't have the right to protest, but it is about hypocrisy.