reply to post by Throwback
Ok, consider this. The human being, the latest and greatest part of an evolved creation of a first/last cause as consciousness itself (Monistic
Idealism) and the everything everywhere already always and forever (God), who (as human being) in becoming conscious himself, becomes one with God, or
God indwelling the human being in the fullness of spirit and truth (pure consciousness). In this way, Jesus, as unblemished consciousness, out of love
(love of God to God and from God) accepted, willingly, and of his own free will, to take on the fullness of the sin and sorrow and suffering of the
world (evil) as a way of re-creating the world or regenerating it via the human being (himself), by clearing karmic dept (causation of evil) in a
radical transformative forgiveness, while at the same time hoping that we, his larger family, would come into full understanding as to his mission and
purpose (and his love), but alas we were too dumb and are still to this day, to "grok" of him and his sent calling or mission, most fully.
"Let them be so one that they will know that it was you who sent me."
"And as my father sent me even so send I you."
"I have only one commandment: Love one another as I have loved you."
Jesus Christ is a pattern and a model of authentic leadership and love, yes, even as the begotten son of God, perfect and without fault or blame.
There is nothing "wrong" with it, at all.
It's also an all-inclusive proposition, which does not require worship, although once understood gratitude, and a repentant heart might very well be
appropriate, but to each his own of course and love to be love, must be freely given and freely recieved, it cannot be coercive, and this is the
problem with "Churchianity".
P.S. God, in fullness as the Godhead, was not fully involved or conscious of himself relative to the human being, until the coming of Jesus Christ,
but because of Jesus' coming (being sent from the first/last cause out of love for the human being), the human being is now in full and complete
sympathetic harmonious relationship WITH the Godhead, without either limitation or separation, even by sin and evil relative to what is holy, just and
perfect, and without sin (God). What we see there in the passion of the Christ, is the height of the twin pillars on the tree of life, that of a
severe justice and a tender mercy, while being unwilling to make any compromise with sin and evil. For Jesus (and for those who "grok") is was a
perfect and a perfectly neccessary act.
It would be nice if we could understand it, free from any sort of contempuous bias due to "religion" and see and recognize it for it's nearly
unfathonable beauty, magnificence, mystery and love, and what it really signifies for the human being, as a point of liberation, set free for the sake
of freedom, to freely love as we are loved.
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