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posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by stereologist
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I don't have to, I think you have come to realize the scale of what H has put across, it ain't perfect, but his heart is in it, do you see.

So you are playing a hunch even though almost everything in the video has been shown to be wrong. The only issue that is in dispute at this time is whether or not flooding is increasing.

Are you saying that you don't have to because you know that the results are going to go against H? I don't think that is the case. Just because the magnetosphere is not unusual and NASA did not find a new solar companion and the other claims were bunk does not mean that the flooding issue is bunk.

Each issue stands on its own.


What I am saying is, we know, some items in the video are open to question and possibly false,only because they have not disrupted our cozy little existence, yet. What is highlighted in the video (for me anyway) is Heineken's sincerity to the problems in the world, of which, we all have to face. Like I have said before, It ain't perfect, but the guy is concerned, as are many people on this site. Sometimes we have got to put aside logic and go with our instincts, every animal has instincts, but some people have not discovered them. Do you get my drift ?

Flooding, yup, I know all about that. In fact, I have worked on a few projects in Chesterfield. UK, Constructing flood prevention shafts. The one in the picture below is the deepest @ 15M x 25M deep. All together we build six in an area, approximately 4 miles radius. The govern bent are spending billions on flood prevention here in the U.K.



I have known something is wrong, for a long time, and it certainly don't look like, it is getting any better, from where I am. Should of made them shafts deeper in my opinion. They would not listen.


Did I get a thumbs up.. Go on punk "make my day"

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posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 03:44 PM
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you are a person to be admired dude

....still im convinced that the dots are connected..maybe who knows someday i will be proven right..not that i wish...lool it just passed through my mind that at least is if something happens i will die saying "I TOLD THEM!!!" and not "HE TOLD US"..



posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 09:05 PM
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Why base your actions on hunches when these hunches can be shown to be wrong. There are lots of instances where hunches have been wrong. Hunches in general do not pan out.

One of my favorite hunches that does not work out is the idea that "you can be thrown clear of an accident." Sounds good, but it's false. Look at all of the casinos. They are based on the fact that people have hunches that don't pan out.

The problem with hunches is that we remember the hits and forget about the misses. That's what keeps gamblers going even as they lose all of their assets.

Here is a blog which talks about my feelings on hunches:
Geologists in the movies: the myth of the maverick

But what does he do then? Collect gas or soil samples? Take photos? Bring his colleagues out for a look? You know, work to put some flesh on his "gut feeling"? This is what a scientist would do - because a scientist is fully aware that your guts have s**t for brains. They don't ignore hunches, half-guesses and inspiration: they just acknowledge that these are merely the starting point, and that working out what's really going on requires something a little more objective. Instead, this movie once again sends the message that our instincts beat flashy boxes and fancy-pants degrees any day. Bah.



What I am saying is, we know, some items in the video are open to question and possibly false,only because they have not disrupted our cozy little existence, yet.

The things in the video that I have disputed are just because they have been shown to be false. The evidence is in most overwhelmingly against the claims made in the video.



posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 09:11 PM
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still im convinced that the dots are connected..maybe who knows someday i will be proven right

So far you have been proven wrong in these cases:

1. No pole shift is happening.
2. You are only guessing that a magnetic reversal is happening.
3. The Mayans did not speak of a galactic alignment. That's a New Age hoax.
4. The alignment did not have any effect on the Earth. It happens every year and was best in 1998.
5. The known magnetic reversals are not associated with ice ages.

The only thing left seems to be the claim you make that flooding is increasing. Surprisingly the only proper effort made to show that flooding may be increasing was done by lasertaglover. You did collect some images, but to my eye there was no discernable pattern of increase. The images showed me that the amount of flooding fluctuates from year to year.

You never told us where you got these images and why you think these iamges are useful.



posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 09:13 PM
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You might think that flooding disasters are down. Reasons to suppose that:
1. Most of the great rivers of the world have dams now.
2. River stretches in cities have levees to prevent flooding.
3. Historical records show that severe floods happened decades ago with the exception of a 2004 flood.

These are suggestive and not evidence for more or less flooding.

Does anyone have any evidence?



posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 06:49 AM
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1 Some dams have burst thier banks, this has been shown in previous floods in the USA. Not all Dams are safe and you know this.

2 Not all storm channels, (you call them levees, I call them storm channels) are efficient enough when it comes to flooding. Look what happened in New Orleans.

3 Dates of floods from 2000 - 2010:



2011 Brazil floods of January are consider the worst in the country's history. As of Jan. 18, the floods have taken about 700 lives and 14,000 people are homeless mainly due to landslides.

The 2010-2011 Queensland floods are some of the worst the country of Australia has ever seen.

The November 2010 Colombia floods and associated landslides killed 138 persons. 1.3 million were left homeless.

In November 2010, many areas of Cornwall, UK, were struck by floods. The worst hit area was the town of Par.

In May 2010, Poland's Prime Minister Donald Tusk informs the Sejm that ongoing flooding is "the worst natural disaster in the nation's history". (thenews.pl)

In November 2009, record-breaking amounts of rain were dumped on Cumbria, England and Cork, Ireland, causing minor floods in Cork and major floods in Cumbria. During the floods, waters reached a UK record 8 ft deep in Cockermouth, Cumbria.

On August 4 2010 at 9:25 am EST a major thunderstorm producing large hail and winds in excess of 60 mph (97 km/h) advanced at the leading edge of a cold front moving across the American Midwest, causing a flash flood that struck Louisville, Kentucky and portions of the surrounding Kentuckiana region.

In June 2009, minor flooding hit parts of Sheffield City Centre in Sheffield, England. Waters reached only about half a foot deep as the River Don broke its banks, but considerable damage was still caused.

The 2008 Indian floods affected several states in India between July 2008 and September 2008 during an unusually wet monsoon season. The floods caused severe damage, and killed an estimated 2404 people.

The 2007 Africa Floods was one of the worst and most destructive floods in recorded history on the continent of Africa with 14 countries affected.

Between late May 2007 and early August 2007, severe 2007 United Kingdom floods hit most of the United Kingdom, with the most affected area in the country being Yorkshire. The city of Sheffield (in Yorkshire) was the worst affected city in the country, a months worth of rain fell on the city in just 18 hours on 25 June 2007, bursting the banks of the River Don in that city. There were also fears that the Ulley Reservoir in Sheffield would fail, if it did it would have killed hundreds. 6 people were killed across the country.

The 2007 Hunter Floods inundated large areas of the cities of Maitland and Newcastle in Australia in June 2007, claimed 11 lives and forced the evacuation of 4,000 people in Central Maitland.
Peninsular Malaysia, Sumatra, and Sabah suffered floods between December 2006 and January 2007. It killed hundreds and forced 100,000 people to be evacuated in Johor alone. Floods hit the country's capital Jakarta in

January 2007, killing 80. It was the worst flood in Malaysia for over 100 years.
Ethiopia saw one of its worst floods ever in August 2006.

The Mid-Atlantic States flood of 2006 in the eastern United States is considered to be the worst in that region since the flooding caused by Hurricane David in 1979.

Korea (both North Korea and South Korea) saw one of its worst floods ever in May 2006.
In November 2005, in the Indian states of Tamil Nadu and Andhra Pradesh, many villages were isolated due to heavy rains caused by low-pressure areas in the Bay of Bengal.

Record rain across eastern Europe in August 2005 caused very severe flooding.
80% of New Orleans, Louisiana, USA was flooded due to the failure of several levees in August 2005 during

Hurricane Katrina. 1,076 people also died because of the hurricane.

Flooding in Mumbai, India, in July 2005 left over 700 dead. Some areas went under 5 m of water.

One of Canada's most devastating floods occurred in southern Alberta in June 2005. The flooding affected many major metropolitan areas including Calgary. 4 deaths resulted from the three-week flood.

In January 2005, flooding on the rivers Eden, Kent, Derwent, Greta and Cocker as well as others in Cumbria, England, flooded about 2,000 properties and caused in excess of £250 million of damage. It was the worst flood in the history of the region of Cumbria (but it was beaten by the Cumbria flooding of November 2009).[2]

The Boscastle flood, 2004 on the 16 August in the village of Boscastle, Cornwall, United Kingdom, caused much damage to buildings in the Valency river valley. Further flooding took place in surrounding valleys, and in the town of Camelford. It was Cornwall's worst flood since the Lynmouth flood in 1952.

In 2002, the 2002 Glasgow floods hit Glasgow, Scotland, causing severe damage.

In 2002, the 2002 European floods hit Central Europe, causing major damage.

In June 2001, floods from Tropical Storm Allison killed over 30 people in the Houston, Texas, area.

The 2000 Mozambique flood, caused by heavy rains followed by a cyclone, covered much of the country for three weeks, killing thousands, leaving the country devastated for years afterwards.



Flood Dates



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posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 06:55 AM
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well informed...also well presented post...just to let you know i admire your style



posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 07:12 AM
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stereologist...

i have been reflecting a lot lately...

i see the points you are making and telling you the truth many times i agreed also...

but IMO something strange is going on and i feel i have the right tools to do something about it....this is one of the coolest things i can think of doing at the moment

also i still think..

A magnetic reversal is happening
last time it happened was 800,000 yrs ago
It can take thousands of years or it can flip in matter of days
No One really knows what happens during such event
Our Solar Shield is no way up to standard with our Sun waking Up
Earthquakes are on the rise
Floods are on the rise
I have not found any evidence that mass animal death in a very short time is the norm (many of which unexplained phenomenas
Many have not yet understood the Mayan Galactic Alignment and its connection with the dark rift
There is a mystery Star/Planet effecting the Oorth Cloud
Volcanic activity is on the rise

so i think after all i'm still sat the starting point and the video is still very valid to me

i hope there are people here who share the same thoughts as me...but even if i'm the only one it will not change this...only evidence pointing against may



posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 08:07 AM
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that image is a prove that plasma energy is released from the galactic center of a rotating galaxy...thats a fact!!!

Why do you claim that it shows plasma energy? The image shows part of the galaxy illuminated by star bursts. Where did you get the idea that this was plasma energy? Was this a guess on your part or did you read this someplace. I'd be interesting in reading the original source if this was not a guess?



posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 08:22 AM
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1 Some dams have burst thier banks, this has been shown in previous floods in the USA. Not all Dams are safe and you know this.

It's not that dams are unsafe. A dam failure can lead to incredible damage, but dam failures are rare compared to floods. Dams do stop flooding. The Clorado river used to flood every year. It doesn't. The flood waters filled the Salton Sea. There are no more floods to do that. BTW I don't need to know this. I do know this and it is good to bring this to light.


2 Not all storm channels, (you call them levees, I call them storm channels) are efficient enough when it comes to flooding. Look what happened in New Orleans.

The area was flooded regardless of whether or not the city itself was saved from flooding. Even had the levee system of New Orleans no failed there was a flood. The event would have been counted as a flood. Storm channels do protect places we live in and usually protect human areas. Floods waters of the Yellow River in China are directed away from agricultural areas in China. Flooding of these crop lands could destroy up to 1/6 of China's food supply.


3 Dates of floods from 2000 - 2010:

That's an excellent list. It shows that severe floods and some of historic proportions have happened in the last decade.

Do you think this is definitive evidence that floods are worse than say the floods in Asia that killed some million people in the 1930s or is this simply because floods are random events and the Earth being so big we'd expect a devastating random flood every year or so?

Your material is definitely heading in the right direction.



posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 08:54 AM
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Originally posted by stereologist
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that image is a prove that plasma energy is released from the galactic center of a rotating galaxy...thats a fact!!!

Why do you claim that it shows plasma energy? The image shows part of the galaxy illuminated by star bursts. Where did you get the idea that this was plasma energy? Was this a guess on your part or did you read this someplace. I'd be interesting in reading the original source if this was not a guess?


i'll do my best to show you were i got the idea..

this video shows you a spinner top..while rotating it keep upright due to fact that energy is released both from the side and upwards..



here you can see how energy is travelling...sry for bad illustartions but i'm kinda lazy today im using mspaint



As you can see as a galaxy spins...it releases energy..and what energy
..amazing right??



You can see our very own Galaxy's Energy ..the dark rift



The Mayan Alignment IMO is referring to the time when our solar sustem enters the dark rift or center of the glactic plain



This MAYBE the cause of the incoming Magnetic Shift

Hope it helps ^^



posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 09:18 AM
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also i still think..

A magnetic reversal is happening
last time it happened was 800,000 yrs ago
It can take thousands of years or it can flip in matter of days
No One really knows what happens during such event
Our Solar Shield is no way up to standard with our Sun waking Up
Earthquakes are on the rise
Floods are on the rise
I have not found any evidence that mass animal death in a very short time is the norm (many of which unexplained phenomenas
Many have not yet understood the Mayan Galactic Alignment and its connection with the dark rift
There is a mystery Star/Planet effecting the Oorth Cloud
Volcanic activity is on the rise

so i think after all i'm still sat the starting point and the video is still very valid to me

i hope there are people here who share the same thoughts as me...but even if i'm the only one it will not change this...only evidence pointing against may


I realize that anyone can suppose that a magnetic reversal is happening, but the sorts of things we see today are similar to what has been observed since 1835 when Gauss first measured the Earth's magnetic field.
Geomagnetic Field
Since Gauss first measured the field an interesting discovery came to light that the Earth's field appears to reverse. No one knows what the field does when it reverses. The evidence from geology is that reversals are not sudden as in a couple of days, but rather that the reversals take thousands of years to complete.

If a reversal takes 1000 years and a solar maximum happens every 11 years, then 91 maximums happen every reversal event. That's just the way it is. Extinctions are not correlated with reversal events. That is good news. So reversals do not appear to be dangerous to life on Earth.

Earthquakes are not on the rise. The experts in seismology are not seeing more earthquakes.
Common Earthquake Myths


Floods are on the rise.

That is certainly being hinted at by a number of posts. Has any tried to find an expert that says floods are on the rise in both intensity and frequency? It's a lot easier to rely on someone that has the data and has the mathematical expertise to demonstrate that increases are happening.

As far as animal die offs is concerned, you posted the Kaku video that made it very clear that nothing unusual was happening. It's really easy to find these events. I checked with an ornithologist at the university and he agreed that these events are fairly common. Did you know that 1 in 4 migrating birds does not arrive at its destination?
Causes of Bird Mortality
Deaths due to wild cats and windows is what kills off birds. Collisions in general are devastating to birds. The recent events showed trauma, which is consistent with the overall death patterns of birds.

The Mayans and the galactic rift is not an old story. It's a modern hoax. The Mayans did not know about galaxies. The rift is a set of dark nebulae that appear to overlap. It is not even a single object. Never have alignments done anything to the Earth. There are dozens each year and the galactic alignment is a yearly event that was best in 1998.

There have been numerous suggestions that there is a large mass in the Oort cloud. One of those suggestions is from this paper. This is likely what you are referring to.
Persistent Evidence of a Jovian Mass Solar Companion in the Oort Cloud
The evidence is quite weak. This is not a destructive object if it exists. Read the paper and see that it is not.

Are volcanoes on the rise? The USGS says no. The Smithsonian says no.
Has volcanic activity been increasing?
There are well over 500 volcanoes that have erupted in historic times. The amount of activity right now is typical.

Of all of the things in your list that is unresolved is the issue of flooding. Lots of hints have been dropped here. Let me drop a few more and I will be more explicit this time.

The issue is floods. So do use the word flood in an internet search.
The issue is whether or not they are more common or more intense. Appeal to a well researched group and not a hoax site such as one using 2012 in its name. Researchers are going to use their own jargon to precisely explain what they are doing. So do use the word frequency in an internet search.

So far we have "flood frequency".

What we want to know is whether or not this is a global issue. So we can pare down the reported sites by looking for groups cataloging information. These sites are going to be specialized groups. Try some of these words: archive, catalog, center, studies or other words you can think of that suggest some group is something like the "Center for Flood Analysis" or whatever.

So give "flood frequency archive" a try. Even "flood frequency" might work.

BTW, I do know that weather and its impact on people is often discussed by global warming scientists.



posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 09:23 AM
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dude global warming is a HOAX

every planet in the solar system is changing drastically..how can you still think global warming exists



posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 09:28 AM
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posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 09:29 AM
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i re-post for you...

www.abovetopsecret.com...
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posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 09:32 AM
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this video shows you a spinner top..while rotating it keep upright due to fact that energy is released both from the side and upwards..

What keeps the top upright is the conservation of angular momentum principle.


here you can see how energy is travelling...sry for bad illustartions but i'm kinda lazy today im using mspaint

Those are good illustrations. The problem is that energy is not flowing in that direction unless you want to claim that friction with the air causes a transfer of energy from the top to the surrounding air. A top in a vacuum would act very similar since the drag is small.

In the photo where you are showing upright energy, the object is not associated with the galaxy. The energy flows you are showing are not correct. This is the cartwheel galaxy. Go to the wikipedia and read why this interesting galaxy has the shape it does. Also, learn that this photo is taken in one wavelength or a set of wavelengths that record a particular set of events happening. Other wavelengths tell us about other types of events. Here is a link.
Cartwheel Galaxy


You can see our very own Galaxy's Energy ..the dark rift

The dark rift is not energy. It is cold matter. It is a collection of disconnected "dark clouds" between us and the galaxy. They are 300 light years away. That's pretty far away.
Dark Rift


The Mayan Alignment IMO is referring to the time when our solar sustem enters the dark rift or center of the glactic plain

The dark rift is not close. We do not enter it. The best alignment with the plane was in 1998. Alignments are meaningless. They happen all of the time in our solar system. Nothing happens. Back in 2000 there were calls for the end of the world due to an alignment. Nothing happened except the fringe author walked away with a lot of money from the gullible.


This MAYBE the cause of the incoming Magnetic Shift

The magnetic field is due to convection in the liquid part of the Earth's core. It is not due to something external to the Earth. It is not due to the rotation of the Earth. The reversal is due to changes inside of the Earth, thousands of miles below the surface.



posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 09:34 AM
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dude global warming is a HOAX

every planet in the solar system is changing drastically..how can you still think global warming exists

I never said it exists. What I will state is that the claims that every planet is changing is meaningless. This is real life. If things were not changing we'd all be wondering why.



posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 09:39 AM
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I did read your post and posted a long string of statements showing you where you went wrong. Your claim that energy is being released from a spinning object is simply incorrect. Some understanding of angular momentum goes back to ancient times. The mathematics was worked out more recently by around the 1600s.

Angular Momentum

It's well understood and well tested and does not work as you suggest.



posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 09:41 AM
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this video shows you a spinner top..while rotating it keep upright due to fact that energy is released both from the side and upwards..

This is simply wrong. Please take the time to understand how angular momentum works.



posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 09:41 AM
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My friend,


Originally posted by stereologist
The magnetic field is due to convection in the liquid part of the Earth's core. It is not due to something external to the Earth. It is not due to the rotation of the Earth. The reversal is due to changes inside of the Earth, thousands of miles below the surface.


I agree, although not 100%. Its also caused by...


The Earth's magnetic field is contained within a region of space, known as the magnetosphere, by the action of the solar wind. The magnetosphere deflects many, but not all, of the high-energy particles that flow from the Sun in the solar wind and from other sources in the galaxy. Sometimes the Sun is particularly active, for example when there are many sunspots, and it may send clouds of high-energy particles in the direction of the Earth. During such solar 'flares' and 'coronal mass ejections', astronauts in Earth orbit may need extra shelter to avoid higher doses of radiation. Therefore we know that the Earth's magnetic field offers only some, rather than complete, resistance to particle radiation from space. Indeed high-energy particles can actually be accelerated within the magnetosphere.


www.geomag.bgs.ac.uk...

Still lurking


Be safe be well

Spiro
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