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I am actually a professional pilot, but have avoided the airlines...
Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by smurfy
Well...of course the albedo from the ice that generally never goes away (nearest the poles) is significant.
But, again.....just look at a globe, and shine a bright light on it to represent the Sun.....and see where most of the planet gets the light. Naturally, be sure to tilt the axis of your globe to 23.5 degrees....and observe the seasonal change as well.
Clouds, on the other hand, are transient. BUT, if the percentage of coverage were to increase substantially, and remain high...well, no one really knows is that will or even can occur. Lots of theories, and ongoing studies to try to determine more and more facts about the activity of the atmosphere, how it all interacts, and all the other variables.
Mysteries about past events, before modern Humans could make observations (based on geologic studies) and various past severe climate changes defy much explanation, as yet. Triggering factors, for example. Lots of variables. (To include, possibly, many things completely out of our control.....varying infrared output from the Sun, either from unknown Solar changes and cycles, to space "dust" causing obscuration....and cooling.
The runaway "deep freeze" (aka "Snowball Earth") of about 700 million years ago. (Several cycles, in fact). No way to know, exactly, what happened....but research, theories and study continues:
Point is, while some may have sufficient hubris and inflated pride to think that THEY can be in command of the global weather....I think they would be biting off more than they could chew, if they attempted it.
AND>>> "cooler" more rational minds recognize this....and reject ANY preemptive and reckless activity to "tinker around"....absent so much data, still.
"Chemtrails" are the "Chicken Little" (well, one of many) of our modern age. The Internet is partially to blame, also. Really, "blame" is a bit harsh, as it's still quite young.....and we've still a lot to learn about its dangers, even as we enjoy its gifts and luxuries.....
....when did the "Internet" as know it right now, begin in earnest? Only about 15 years ago!!!:
The internet became popular with the introduction of Netscape Navigator around 1995, and by 1997 the internet giant of the time was America Online.
For Pete's sake, Google is pretty young....and is far more "grown-up" in just the last several years, than when it first started:
Google's auspicious beginnings came as a search engine designed by Larry Page and Sergey Brin at Stanford University in 1996. The search engine was dubbed Backrub due to its unique algorithm denoting relevancy by the backlinks to a page.
LOL! "Backrub"! Now that "google" is both a proper noun, and a verb....imagine the World today....if the name hadn't changed......."Well, I met this guy at a bar, and THEN when I got home I backrubbed him......"
By 1997 Backrub was renamed Google as a play on the mathematical term googol, denoting a one followed by 100 zeros. In 1998 Google was officially born as Google, Inc and had a home base in a garage in Menlo Park, California.
Sorry if this all seems OT.....but, in terms of the "chemtrail" phenomenon.....it DOES seem significant, to me....the timing of the Internet, Google, "chemtrail" hysteria and modern high-bypass turbofan engines, increased use and increased numbers of airplanes and flights......
Originally posted by stirling
Well. and truely read, till about the 3/4 mark...the rest is just reiteration or personal....
From the evidence FOR chemtrail existance, and the lack of any evidence proving it doesnt(except ft sill has no airport)I have to give up and say you believers have me convinced theres some truth to chemtrails.
Now, as to what is going on in the skies, we need to co-operate with each other....not continuously denegrate and harrass....
Perhaps the best plan was for us to test and report to each other what air quality we have locally...
,It would seem a simple task to devise some testing method we can all use....perhaps of the install and forget variety, with a dated recovery and testing period from installation date.
3 months? weeks????
Other plans would be to try to locate manufacturers of the immense amount of tonnage that must be involved....
Also the logistics of distributing the same would be another large trail....
CAN SOMEBODY AT FT SILL CONFIRM NO AIRTRAFFIC FROM THERE?
There is no reason we could not invite Mr. Gundersson to star in his own question and answer thread as ive often thought it rather a unique feature to have people like Jim Marrs with their own threads.
That is a matter for Mods and management to decide......
It would be great if we could shut up and simply work together to resolve whats going on if anything, and not try to dump on any others opinions.
Any science minded here know of how to simply test for the presence of chemtrails?
Originally posted by Byteman
reply to post by firepilot
Well....I've seen KC-135 tankers leave persistent trails, in variable-altitude flying, in the middle of Summer, with not a single cloud or even whisp of fluff in the sky, in my location...a desert. While commercial airplanes leave nothing more than a standard contrail that disappears within seconds...same conditions.
reply to post by firepilot
Then that's too bad for your "they started it theory". Chemtrail talk has been around since the early-mid 90's, if they started in on it in 1998 then they couldn't have started the "hoax" as you put it.
BTW, people profiteering from Chemtrails (in America a Capitalist country) in various ways doesn't disprove chemtrails either.
Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by firepilot
How desensitised has the global population become to crap hanging around in the air ?
That is as sinister as it needs to get for me. Or do we just say, sa la vee, I do so trust TPTB? Oui, Oui, Oui.