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The Day Before Roswell

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posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 12:07 PM
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Originally posted by jessejamesxx
reply to post by zorgon
 

What if our extra terrestrial friends aren't just from another star system, but another dimension.. or have access to other dimensions? That means they could be from our very own planet, or one close by.

Very interesting question you brought up there. There are, however, also reports of extraterrestrials from other starsystems, who visit Earth.
But, there are also reports of extraterrestrials who enter into our dimension, dematerialize from one point and reappear into another place.
www.youtube.com... Robert O. Dean mention beings from other starsystems, beings from a multidimensional place, who enter into our dimension, he also mention Michiu Kaku who talk about Multiverse with 11 different dimensions bigthink.com... www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com... www.youtube.com... Here is a little bit about secret craft technology, ancient giant humans, The Philadelphia Experiment, www.youtube.com... www.youtube.com... www.youtube.com... www.youtube.com... www.youtube.com... www.youtube.com... About alien technology www.youtube.com... www.burlingtonnews.net... William Cooper and Cliff Stone talk about EBE alien www.bibliotecapleyades.net... www.disclose.tv... Cliff Stone mention 57 alien species

www.bibliotecapleyades.net... Reports of 'Starchildren' who claim that ET's who walk through walls, become invisible. Sounds like the kind of ET's who come from another dimension who are able to enter into our dimension

www.lemurianconnection.com... About an ancient Lemurian Race who are claimed to have lived in the continent of Lemuria or Mu, the continent are claimed to be destroyed by the 'Great Flood' several thousands years ago. Reports tell some of them survived and moved to Mount Sastra, and live in another dimension.
www.themarsrecords.com... Indigo child Boriska claim he is a reincarnation of a over 7 meter tall Martian pilot who travelled from Mars to Earth 800,000 years ago, and had a 9 meter tall Lemurian friend www.youtube.com...
The theory is that Earth was once smaller, had weaker gravity and thicker air in ancient times, that allowed all life to grow bigger than today
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posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 12:15 PM
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Originally posted by A51Watcher
and also...

"Wernher Von Braun knew about the extraterrestrial issue." - Dr. Carol Rosin,
spokesperson for Wernher Von Braun last years of his life.

and this...

'News Europa' Jan 1959

Wernher Von Braun commented, "We find ourselves faced by powers, which are far stronger than we had hitherto assumed, and whose base is at present unknown to us.
More I cannot say at present (when asked about the deflection of a satellite)
We are now engaged in entering into closer contact with those powers, and in six or nine months it may be possible to speak with some precision on the matter."

Thanks for that information 'A51Watcher'
Now we have at least two very reliable persons who knew Von Braun personally, to confirm what Braun knew about the alien visitation



posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 12:27 PM
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Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
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More like Von Braun was waiting for an American or Russian deal to be made.
Kill squad indeed.
Thousands were let into America.
The famous seven days in May is another intel fantasy for the critical minded to ignore.
Not much is available except for followers the fantasy.
For those with knack we don't re constructed history but give history a chance.

That's right
Lots of German scientists went both to the Soviet Union and the United States. The Cold War (no Cold War today, after the fall of the Soviet Union) and Space Race



posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 02:54 PM
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Who alerted the aliens, please.
Its more like Von Braun alerted the newly formed US intel service to
quash the bickering over the saucers.
Get any saucer book and find flat saucers photographed in Ohio.
Right near an air base.
Same type photographed by Rex Heflin.
Same type found at a base full of humans by Travis Walton.
Take a good look at such a crude device that can fly at 3000 miles per hour
and do 90 degree turns.

Tesla pressure waves that control space throughout the ship and crew as
one whole entity un abated by the normal environment, thats how.


Quite a feat.
You think Nazi re engineered such a thing.
No one spent more time on environment controls by electrical waves than Tesla.
Thats all he did from before and after designing every bolt in the Niagara Falls Power
plant and distribution system.

Atomic bombs on Earth would not even match the noise and radiation already
given off by the Sun. Un scientific rationalizations lead by those not paying attention
to events in history are being stymied by true forces against the science of Tesla.


Its on the web now if you search. 36" of lead protection is provided by the Earth.
Who said that. Tesla. How did he know. He made some measurements and
told everyone. Its still true today. Do aliens wish to die like rats in outer space.
Do humans. No. So how do we get these undeniable strange airships that everyone
says is from outer space or other dimensions. They were built on Earth by humans.
Winning.



posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 04:17 PM
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Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
Who alerted the aliens, please.
So how do we get these undeniable strange airships that everyone
says is from outer space or other dimensions. They were built on Earth by humans.
Winning.

Only few UFOs are built by humans, for testing, while the rest of the other UFOs are built on other planets from other starsystems.
For example the Nordics who are from the Pleiades, they visited Earth, had a telepathic meeting with President Eisenhower. The Nordics expressed their concern about our nuclear weapons.

And not only that. UFOs interfere with our nuclear weapons in the United States and Russia www.youtube.com... www.youtube.com... www.youtube.com... www.youtube.com... www.youtube.com... www.youtube.com... UFOs shut down nuclear warheads



posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 07:32 AM
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Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
Same type photographed by Rex Heflin.
Same type found at a base full of humans by Travis Walton.
Take a good look at such a crude device that can fly at 3000 miles per hour
and do 90 degree turns.

Are you refering to the mile long UFO moving at 3,000 mph? Where do you see it did 90 degree turns? Do you have any source/link that show that that UFO did 90 degree turns?
It would be nice if you could provide any links.

www.ufonut.com... xenophilius.wordpress.com... This is about the mile long and a half wide UFO moving at 3,000 mph. But i don't see anywhere that this one did a sudden 90 degree turn.
There are reports of UFOs that make 90 degree turns, that seems to defy law of physics, yes. But we don't have that kind of 'Crafts' that defy law of physics www.nicap.org... Here are some examples of UFOs that seems to defy laws of physics, like for example zig-zagging at incredible speed. UFOs also operate near our nuclear bases.

Do humans make mile long UFOs? I don't think so. Do humans make 600 meters long and 110 meters diameter UFOs with unusual alien hieroglyphic signs on it? I don't think so www.ufocasebook.com... www.ufocasebook.com...
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posted on Mar, 13 2011 @ 06:47 AM
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Major Donald Keyhoe's conversation with Jet Fighter Pilot

re: possibility of 1947 UFO's of Soviet origin

R: "OK... you're flying an F-94 jet, with a radar operator behind you. You're on a routine patrol. Ground Control Intercept calls you. They've got an unknown on their radar, which is a surveillance type, with a longer range than yours. Their tracks show the unknown is making tight turns and speeds too high for any aircraft. So they give you the word—it's a UFO."

"Right then, it stops being an ordinary intercept. Going after a MIG, it's different. You know what you're up against. When you get him in your sights, you're ready to fire. With the saucers, you're on the spot. The orders are to intercept but not to shoot—unless you're sure they're hostile."

(Keyhoe: I knew about that. Major General Roger Ramey, chief of the Air Defense Command, had told me about the instructions.)

R: "How're you going to tell if they're hostile or not?" Riordan said harshly. "Who knows what they—well, anyway, GCI vectors you in. All of a sudden you see a light, circling faster than any plane. Your radar picks it up, too, and you lock on, so you're automatically following the thing. About that time Ground Control calls and says they've got you both on their scope, and the UFO's right where your radar shows it. That does it.
You know the thing's real—not a reflection or a set malfunction."

"It's your job to get in close. Maybe you'll learn something Intelligence doesn't know. So you open up and go on in. The UFO is still circling, or perhaps it's hovering by now, or it's slowed down. If it didn't do one of those things, you'd never get within miles—even at 100 per cent power.

Then it makes a quick turn toward you. You know you've been spotted, and you start getting butterflies in your stomach...
You watch the thing start a tight turn around you. Nobody on earth could take all the gs in that turn. It's so fast you almost twist your neck off, trying to keep it in sight...

One thing's sure, Something with intelligence is in control of the thing, the way it maneuvers. Even if it's remote-controlled, it must have a TV 'eye' or something like that—so you know you're being watched, maybe on a screen a long way off.

...But all you really know is that you're a sitting duck, if whoever's watching you wants to let you have it.
Then the saucer pulls away, so fast you feel like you're standing still.

...people should know all about those UFO intercepts. The way it is, too many of 'em think the saucers are some U. S. secret weapon."

K: "Not so many think so now," I said. "If we'd had anything with that power and speed back in '47, by now they’d be in operating squadrons. We wouldn't be building jets—they'd be completely obsolete. And those remote-controlled types would be perfect guided missiles.
We'd be able to tell Russia where to head in, fast."

R: "I know all that—but you still hear people say the saucers are our secret weapon, so we needn't be afraid of Russia."

K: "Yes, and you'll hear some others say they're Soviet weapons—"

R: That's even crazier, The Reds were barely crawling out of the wreckage of World War II, back in '47. They couldn't possibly have produced the saucers in that short time, even if they'd stumbled on some new method of propulsion.

And even if they could have, they wouldn't be shooting them all over the world, taking a chance one would crash and give away the secret."


K: "You don't have to sell me," I said. "I dropped that answer years ago, "and I don't know anyone in the Pentagon who gives it a serious thought."

R: "Besides, the Reds would own the world now if they'd jumped that far ahead in '47. At least they'd be holding a gun at our heads."


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posted on Mar, 13 2011 @ 07:02 AM
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Originally posted by A51Watcher

R: "Besides, the Reds would own the world now if they'd jumped that far ahead in '47. At least they'd be holding a gun at our heads."




A51Watcher, thanks for a very good read.


Admiral Fahrney didn't think they were Russian either.




"According to worthy information of faith, in our atmosphere objects arrive at high speed. No aircraft, neither in the United States, either in the Soviet Union is currently able to achieve the speed attributed to these objects from the radars and from the observatories. These objects appear to be driven by an intelligence the way in which they fly. According to reports from scientists and technical personnel, these objects fly in formation and finish manoeuvres that seem to point out that are not completely driven from an automatic equipment. These objects are in incontestable mode the result of long investigations and highly technological and exceptional knowledge."

Admiral S. Fahrney,head of missile testing for the American Navy


Link



Keep up the great work my friend -fascinating stuff.



posted on Mar, 13 2011 @ 04:28 PM
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Colonizers of Earth
This planet has been invaded by another civilization


Given the attractiveness of water worlds, Earth must have been susceptible to interest from technologically developed extraterrestrial races. It has been discovered that Earth was invaded by a civilization from the star Tau Ceti. But this invader has himself been manipulated by another race.

Earth became the object of colonization by a race from the star Tau Ceti. They threaten other civilizations in the galaxy with a potential device invented by John von Neumann, a scientist from their civilization. He functions as an agent provocateur for them.
An agent provocateur is someone who triggers a conflict in the advantage of a certain nation. As an analogy, we can compare it to a terrorist whose attack gives the opportunity to a faction to invade other countries.

This extraterrestrial race invaded this planet at least 4000 years ago. They are known historically as Aztecs, Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, and Jews.






Ramses, Caesar, Eichmann, Rotschildt belong to a race of extraterrestrial colonizers.

Tau Cetians can be distinguished from Earthly people by their longer earlobes and hook-shaped nose.

Religious belief systems were invented on Earth to keep the planetary population superstitious, corrupted, and afraid. Religious prophets were extraterrestrial.

This civilization was manipulated by an extraterrestrial race which settled around a neighboring star, called Zeta Reticuli.


Zeta Reticuli star system, neighbouring the star Tau Ceti

Zeta Reticulians are a civilization from a more distant galaxy. They entered our galaxy for a peculiar reason: they believed that their species would become extinct. They developed the desire to survive genetically through younger races.



Zeta Reticulians now (left) and originally (right)

Homo Neanderthalensis reportedly rapidly changed into Homo Sapiens. This is referred to as the 'missing link' in the evolution of humankind. The genetic alteration has been performed by the Zeta Reticulians by manipulating mitochondrial DNA.



Transgression of Homo Neanderthalensis into Homo Sapiens

The Tau Cetians discovered what the Zeta Reticulians did on Earth. The Zeta Reticulians then involved them in the colonization of Earth, to tackle this exposure.

Tau Cetians, from thereon served as a disguise to hide the genetic program by the Zeta Reticulians.

knol.google.com...



posted on Mar, 13 2011 @ 09:23 PM
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Originally posted by goah6
Colonizers of Earth
This planet has been invaded by another civilization


Given the attractiveness of water worlds....

knol.google.com...


I noticed in your "post", and the linked web page (that you copy & pasted the entire page here for your "post"), that there are no sources listed anywhere for any of this "information".

I see that you just registered today, and are probably desperate to get your 20 posts in so you can create more wonderful threads, but we would appreciate it if you could actually type a few words and thoughts of your own to contribute to the discussion here, instead of just pasting the entire contents of random fantasy web pages here without even any sources.

Thanks



posted on Mar, 14 2011 @ 12:39 PM
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Hey the Tesla UFO is just a theory but supported by the work of Tesla and
events in history not dwelled upon by the Anti Tesla Illuminati Secret World Government
(ATISWG) that sourced all the space and alien stories.

Toss in ships like the Oval sighted by Lonnie Zamora and Flat disc by Rex Heflin,
same as a craft sighted in Ohio, and many more you know unknown ships exist
with performance defined by Tesla.

Bill Lyne saw 30 degree truns and once in awhile you see on ATS a 90 turn in a
video going slow enough giving off sparks.

Plus you get the science of Tesla that is completely contrary to ATISWG such as needing
to haul around a 3 foot lead shield after leaving Earth.

Space is harmful to life. So talking about the presence of aliens in saucers from the 1950s
is completely bogus then as it is now.
ED:
summary of published works related to the Tesla flying machine
ED2: The Earth's 3 foot of lead radiation shield is a measurement made by Tesla and is still valid today.
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posted on Mar, 14 2011 @ 02:31 PM
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Originally posted by TeslaandLyne

Space is harmful to life. So talking about the presence of aliens in saucers from the 1950s
is completely bogus then as it is now.


Yes, but life doesn't evolve in space. It evolves on planets.

Matter of the fact is that if UFO's (UFO's in this case being physical, tangible vehicles and not some unexplained natural phenomena) are real, they're not made by us. We cannot duplicate the flight characteristics of some particular cases (assuming they're real). Tesla was a genius inventor, but he wasn't the miracle-working wizard that you claim he is.



posted on Mar, 14 2011 @ 04:21 PM
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Originally posted by GeeGee

Originally posted by TeslaandLyne

Space is harmful to life. So talking about the presence of aliens in saucers from the 1950s
is completely bogus then as it is now.


Yes, but life doesn't evolve in space. It evolves on planets.

Matter of the fact is that if UFO's (UFO's in this case being physical, tangible vehicles and not some unexplained natural phenomena) are real, they're not made by us. We cannot duplicate the flight characteristics of some particular cases (assuming they're real). Tesla was a genius inventor, but he wasn't the miracle-working wizard that you claim he is.


You can't move planets round as life needs the planet.
Outer space travel is thus not life supportive.

What is life supportive is energy and that is the source of the anti Tesla conspiracy.
Energy from the environment by Tesla as exhibited by his air ship is proof Tesla
would do away with coal and oil and why we have no disclosure of what Tesla did.



posted on Mar, 14 2011 @ 04:32 PM
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For example the Nordics who are from the Pleiades, they visited Earth, had a telepathic meeting with President Eisenhower. The Nordics expressed their concern about our nuclear weapons.


That sounds like the Billy Meier discovery of saucers in Switzerland.
Embarrassing wasn't it.
The rest must have been stories to go to outer space for answers.
Bill Lyne met a bunch of Pleiaden ship watchers and indeed they (the Tesla ships and Secret World
Government pilots) still pass by now and then.
Not being able to travel to Earth the CIA incharge of denouncing the Tesla ship narurally
makes up telepathic meetings.
The ships are real the suppression is real.



posted on Mar, 14 2011 @ 04:40 PM
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Von Braun was conserned about the satellite he launched which didn't work too well.

Still the ET has no place in Roswell as Von Braun worked there and in other places in
New Mexico which resulted in the UFO or saucer of Mr Tesla's design.
Someone's ships still fly around with the free energy Tesla discovered and they can't
let go because they don't want to and not because of any ETs.



posted on Mar, 14 2011 @ 04:50 PM
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Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
You can't move planets round as life needs the planet.
Outer space travel is thus not life supportive.


I don't understand what you mean.

Outer space is life supportive, or else we would not exist.

The latest Kepler findings reveal that it's statistically improbable that we're the only life in the galaxy, let alone the universe.

EDIT: Oh I see what you mean now. The thing is humans have developed sufficient shielding from radiation and other harmful effects of space, and we're hardly space-capable. A true space-faring race would have sufficient technology to be truly protected from these hazards. So while space is inherently hazardous to biological life, technology changes that. Plus if we're talking about advanced civilizations, there's a pretty good chance that they have surpassed their biological bodies into superior synthetic bodies, making them effectively immortal. Such a civilization would probably be found in some of the most hazardous places in the galaxy , i.e. the galactic core (which would be abundant in the stuff an advanced civilization needs - matter and energy).




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posted on Mar, 14 2011 @ 04:57 PM
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Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
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Von Braun was conserned about the satellite he launched which didn't work too well.

Still the ET has no place in Roswell as Von Braun worked there and in other places in
New Mexico which resulted in the UFO or saucer of Mr Tesla's design.
Someone's ships still fly around with the free energy Tesla discovered and they can't
let go because they don't want to and not because of any ETs.

You still don't get it, do you? Tesla was a genius inventor, but he wasn't the miracle-working wizard that you claim he is.
Von Braun confirmed the Roswell UFO crash and the dead alien bodies with snake-like skin. Is it really necessary to provide that link again and again and again? I'm gonna provide that link to you as many times it takes.



posted on Mar, 14 2011 @ 05:06 PM
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Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
You can't move planets round as life needs the planet.
Outer space travel is thus not life supportive.

Move planets round? You don't know what you are talking about. If you want to talk about something, then at least try to be clear about what you are trying to say. You are mumbling.

GeeGee is right, outer space is life supportive, or else we would not exist.

Another thing, Cosmonauts and Astronauts are in space, and that means it is possible to travel in space. And for the second time, NORAD tracks about 500 UFOs each year from deep space, that approach Earth, and return to deep space.
And we don't have any spacecraft that go into deep space, yet.
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posted on Mar, 14 2011 @ 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by TeslaandLyne

Hey the Tesla UFO is just a theory


Correct. Did you somehow get the impression that anyone thought it was anything more than that?



but supported by the work of Tesla


Incorrect. Tesla never built a flying saucer.



and events in history not dwelled upon by the Anti Tesla Illuminati Secret World Government
(ATISWG)


The WHAT???


The "Anti Tesla Illuminati Secret World Government" ???


(Sorry but I don't play dungeons and dragons and don't care to hear how to.)


and stating that -they- (
) instead are the ones who "sourced all the space and alien stories" is also completely "bogus".

(You see... this is where you lose everybody.) Even the skeptics know it is the thousands upon thousands of ordinary people who are the source of the reports (up until this very day even).


This then immediately raises flags in everyone's mind: as to what your motive is, for saying such a blatantly not-even-closely-connected-to-reality type of thing.
(And then depending on the best guess, should we recommend help or demand better for our NSA tax dollar.)


The actual source of alien body reports (in case you hadn't noticed) came from the military men who had to deal with those alien bodies, AND the citizens already mentioned.
I suspect you must not be up to speed on current events, what with being so busy tracking the movements of "The Anti Tesla Illuminati Secret World Government".





Space is harmful to life.


Oh please. We manage to have humans -in Space- every day. What's your problem.

Oh you mean -long periods of Time in Space- i.e. space TRAVEL
When your craft travels faster than light, you do not have to contend with -long periods- of travel.

(again catching up on current events will help clear this up for you)

And if aliens wanted to travel slower for some reason, a proper shielding (if even needed) could easily be provided by something a little more refined than your supposed "3 foot of lead" that is somehow "needed" in your mind.
(Sorry but only superman needs that for protection from kryptonite.)

Perhaps it is provided by the field around the craft that provides the mass stabilization needed, -and already evident- in their performance. Or perhaps the skin of the saucers that Von Braun spoke about when he visited the crash site (and saw the alien bodies) provides it.

In either case the unfounded arrogance of your terrestrial chauvinism in your premise is quite evident by supposing an extremely advanced culture could not overcome relatively minor obstacles such as radiation protection, when they had obviously already overcome the major obstacle of propulsion and speed-mass stabilization.

Just because -you- can't figure out how to do something,
means an advanced alien culture can't??



So (in your words) "talking about the Anti Tesla Illuminati Secret World Government is as completely bogus then as it is now."
The links you provide just lead to more "bogus" material with no verifiable sources or facts.

They are all "just a theory" as you just admitted at the start of this post. (finally)

Have you ever considered starting -a thread of your own- to sell this "theory"?
Oh that's right, on your profile it shows you indeed have made several attempts. And amazingly none of them seem to have gotten much traction.


NOW I see why you feel this compulsion to peddle your "bogus" theory here.

Could it perhaps have something to do with how you ignore all points refuting your claims by anyone who even bothers to respond to you, and instead glibly move on to a new tangent as if you somehow missed hearing what they just said? What then, a trip back under the bridge after getting the desired "attention"?


What you don't realize, is that I heard about -and investigated- these claims of Nazi ufo's and Russian ufo's ages ago.
I spent more time on it that a normal skeptic would, since I already knew the reality of alien craft and was open to a possible connection. End result was: "Bogus".

But, being open minded I did indeed follow the links you posted in case there was some new information I had not seen before. And what did I see.... same old "bogus" material.

And now if you don't mind, I will get back to the task at hand around here:

i.e. providing on- topic information (along with verifiable sources) that people actually came here to see.


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posted on Mar, 14 2011 @ 06:25 PM
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Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
That sounds like the Billy Meier discovery of saucers in Switzerland.

I'm not refering to Billy Meier, but thanks for mentioning him anyway. I was refering to the meeting with President Eisenhower, revealed by whistleblowers www.exopolitics.org... www.ufoevidence.org... www.bibliotecapleyades.net...



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