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Why 'The Professional Left' Hates the Tea Party

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posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 03:56 PM
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Oh and btw I am not trying to take the blame away from Republicans, or anyone else from any party who are trying to consolidate more power to the rich elites/the Feds/the government, or who have passed laws, or sponsored, or co-sponsored laws which shouldn't exist, such as the law in which corporations are now seen as "people" and are now being afforded the same rights as individuals. Such a law SHOULD NEVER have been adopted.
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posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 04:02 PM
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For Sara123123

Please look at these two pages from the Southern Poverty Law centre.

The first is the current case docket. Notice no rightist lynchings there. The second is the New York hate map. Yes they identify KKK groups but also the new black panthers (all 3 of them lol) and also the Nation of Islam. Go figure. Maybe it is a deep cover double bluff to let Putin become king of America or it could just be that you slightly wrong.

www.splcenter.org...

www.splcenter.org...=NY


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posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 04:06 PM
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Originally posted by aching_knuckles

Originally posted by Cythraul
I agree OP. I was a young liberal, and now I'm a still-relatively-young conservative.


Your inexperience is showing. If you are swinging sides like that early in life, you are like all kids....you dont know what you want and so you listen to those who shout the loudest.

And how old am I? Am I a kid at 27? Is a teenage life embroiled in left-wing politics and then ones' 20s not 'swinging sides'?

I think you made a few incorrect assumptions.



posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 04:15 PM
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Originally posted by EssenSieMich
Here is a link to many documents where you can see that members of the 'Professional Left' are in FACT officially members of the Department of Homeland Security's working groups. Make note this is an official relationship to direct policy.

www.infowars.com... up-to-attack-patriot-groups/
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Do you remember that document written by Janet Napolitano "rightwing extremism" and who she claims are possible extremists and should be watched?...


The Report specifically mentions the following political beliefs that law enforcement should use to determine whether someone is a “rightwing extremist”:

Opposes abortion
Opposes restrictions on firearms
Opposes lax immigration
Opposes the policies of President Obama regarding immigration, citizenship, and the expansion of social programs

Opposes continuation of free trade agreements
Opposes same-sex marriage
Has paranoia of foreign regimes
Fear of Communist regimes
Opposes one world government

Bemoans the decline of U.S. stature in the world.
Upset with loss of U.S. manufacturing jobs to China and India
. . . and the list goes on
The lawsuit was filed in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Michigan on behalf of nationally syndicated conservative radio talk show host, Michael Savage, Gregg Cunningham (President of the pro-life organization Center for Bio-Ethical Reform, Inc (CBR)), and Iraqi War Marine veteran Kevin Murray. The Law Center claims that Napolitano’s Department (DHS) has violated the First and Fifth Amendment Constitutional rights of these three plaintiffs by attempting to chill their free speech, expressive association, and equal protection rights. The lawsuit further claims that the Department of Homeland Security encourages law enforcement officers throughout the nation to target and report citizens to federal officials as suspicious rightwing extremists and potential terrorists because of their political beliefs.
...

www.thomasmore.org...

But hey, writing about this fact and puting the spotlight on the actions of Janet Napolitano and her thugs makes me a "rightwing extremist"...

Not to mention that I was born and experienced Communism hence I am not in love with it like many in the left seem to be. Like me, there are millions of Americans who have escaped, or are relatives of family whom escaped Communist regimes... but Janet Napolitano and her thugs are ignorant of this fact...

I am not calling for any violent revolt, or any sort of violence, but I strongly disagree with her views and find them extremely unbecoming of a person who is in charge of a government agency in the United States.

A person with such views should not be in charge of any government agency.


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posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 04:31 PM
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If you are referring to my comments and links did you decide not to read everything I wrote?

Do me a favor and read what I wrote to the end, and then claim I am wrong.

I even gave statements of some Liberals/progressives in power today.


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posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 04:32 PM
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Originally posted by tiger5
For Sara123123

Please look at these two pages from the Southern Poverty Law centre.

The first is the current case docket. Notice no rightist lynchings there. The second is the New York hate map. Yes they identify KKK groups but also the new black panthers (all 3 of them lol) and also the Nation of Islam. Go figure. Maybe it is a deep cover double bluff to let Putin become king of America or it could just be that you slightly wrong.

www.splcenter.org...

www.splcenter.org...=NY


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Yes, it is the 'Professional Left' working hand in hand in an official capacity with the Department of Homeland Security to take civil liberties away from people. It is not the Tea Parties, it is not the Veterans groups, it is not the Sunday morning cooking club - it is ONLY the professional left.

www.infowars.com...



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 09:52 AM
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Originally posted by rancher1
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Its so cool that we can all come here to share our opinions on things. The world is just so crazy now.. The problem is the MSM does not really portray what is going on.. In the end all we have is each other, We all care that's why were here..There is one thing that I feel from almost everybody I talk to is, there is a since that we all been ripped off. And we don't want it to happen to anybody else. Ones I sit back and look at it, Its not one man or one party it took a little of everybody to contribute to this mess, Blame is thick in this climate, and remedy's are few. Hope in this new year we find more remedy's. Example they want to raise the Debt ceiling, Then we hear no way there going to raise it. What we really need is a solution that if we don't raise it what are we going to cut I mean a detailed plan on what to do. not just cut it with no plan. See What I mean, These guys don't need to just tell people what to do, but how to do it as well.



Yes the times are like very rough sea. Some what to keep things that need to be tossed overboard....some feel that hard cutting needs to happen so they walk around on deck with axes ready to cut lines....maybe they are right. Maybe its that bad. What is amazing is how the band plays on.

As far as the Debt ceiling it is going to have to be stoped if not this time very soon. The breaks need to be put on and it may be to late for a slow breaking.

I mean think about it....we are not talking here about diging into a pile of gold to spend more or taking a larger part of productivity or even diping into savings for this rainy day.....we are talking about a DEBT CEILING! Digging the hole deeper than it already is.

We are digging our own grave at this point and they are saying we need to keep digging! All we are doing now is digging dirt back out of the hole that we already have dug and its falling down on us becouse the hole is to deep to pitch it out.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 12:10 PM
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Originally posted by Logarock
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We are digging our own grave at this point and they are saying we need to keep digging! All we are doing now is digging dirt back out of the hole that we already have dug and its falling down on us becouse the hole is to deep to pitch it out.


It is exactly what tptb have been working for decades. They need to destroy the U.S. economically. Only then will a large portion of Americans who are asleep, and who belong to most, if not all political parties will accepth the One orld Government which will be offered as the solution to all the world problems. But in reality what this will do is give the rich elites more power over every one of our lives.

Americans and people all over the world have to wake up to the fact that just because a group claims "it is being done for the good of all and the planet" it doesn't really mean it will be good for us all or the planet. It is just an excuse for people to accept anything as long as the last statement claims " it is for the good of all, and the planet."

This old adage remains true to this day.


Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber barons cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C.S. Lewis

quotes.liberty-tree.ca...


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posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 12:47 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer
Where do you want me to start? Got a few hours?


Start anywhere. My question still stands unanswered yet you took time to write a response. Please, take as long as you must. I see you claim the government is trying to regulate salt intake, etc. No government agency has ever tried to control how much salt I can eat. Please, spell it all out for me. I can come back when you are done writing it and just read it all then. That should save me some time. Thanks.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by crimvelvet
Where did I ever give FOX a "Get Out of Jail Free Card"?


When did I say you did? Not every conversation here is about you.


The Whole lot of them are propaganda tools used to set up "Let's You and He fight/ Divide and Conquer"

Ask the Farmers.

NOT one major news outlet would carry ANY story against the USDA/FDA Corporate Ag food supply take over that masqueraded as a "Food Safety" issue.

John Munsell TOLD me a well known New York Magazine reporter spent three days interviewing him. The editor approved the story and at the last minute the OWNER squashed it.

This is not some minor story. It is a major story that ended up with Munsell later testify in a government hearing.

You can read the story here:
motherjones.com...
or
www.nader.org.../archives/158-USDA-vs-John-Munsell.html

Here is the story from the Lawyer a frantic John contacted. One E. coli O157:H7 Outbreak I Think I could have Prevented ...


So you do not trust FOX news? I know FOX lies. That was my point...to someone else.

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posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 12:56 PM
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Really, you know Fox Lies, can you present evidence, or are we just supposed to assume you are correct.

See, I like to have proof of things, like video evidence.

Kinda like this-

Idiots on the Morning Joe show, say that the MLK holiday is not recognized in Arizona (absolute lie) and then ask the "Reverend" Al "the not so sharp" Sharpton what he thinks about Arizona seceding.
And Al says that Arizona has already seceded.



So tell me, why is it that idiots like Al Sharpton and those on MSNBC are not told that they are hurting the cause? Is it because lies and propaganda is normal for the leftists?

I mean, it is not true that leftists have to LIE to foment their viewpoint, is it?



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 12:57 PM
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Wait a minute, are you telling lies or truth.

It is hard to tell nowadays.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 01:01 PM
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Originally posted by saltheart foamfollower
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Really, you know Fox Lies, can you present evidence, or are we just supposed to assume you are correct.


I sure can. In fact, there are threads here on ATS all about it. That would be a bit off topic though to sit and here prove something to you that Crimvelvet just also claimed. Since you two seem to agree on so much, ask him. I would also assume that some clip of MSNBC is just as off topic and does nothing to prove anything about FOX at all. Start a new thread about it if you like and I would be glad to bring it all there for you.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 01:02 PM
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Originally posted by Sinnthia

Originally posted by beezzer
Where do you want me to start? Got a few hours?


Start anywhere. My question still stands unanswered yet you took time to write a response. Please, take as long as you must. I see you claim the government is trying to regulate salt intake, etc. No government agency has ever tried to control how much salt I can eat. Please, spell it all out for me. I can come back when you are done writing it and just read it all then. That should save me some time. Thanks.


On the salt issue that's Michael Bloomberg NY Mayor.

Even Mayor Bloomberg's (public) anti-salt bias has its limits: on Saturday he used his weekly radio show to ridicule Brooklyn Assemblyman Felix Ortiz's bat# proposal to ban salt from restaurants.

Per the Post, the mayor said, "you have to have salt when you cook. I do. I use too much salt already myself. But also it makes a lot of foods, the way you cook them and bake them -- salt is a real ingredient. So I don't think that's the right thing to do."

For his part, Ortiz clarified that he didn't want to ban all salt, but merely "the use of salt as an additive to meals...when we have meals prepared by restaurants that pile unnecessary amounts of salt, we have a problem." Thankfully, if Bloomberg's remarks are any indication, it seems we won't have any problem keeping a state assemblyman out of our restaurant kitchens.


Link
blogs.villagevoice.com...



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posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 01:18 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer
On the salt issue that's Michael Bloomberg NY Mayor.


Thanks but I do not see one thing even attempting to regulate salt intake. Maybe you can highlight something specific for me? I thing some people get very confused about what other people can do for you vs. what you can do for yourself. After reading that 4 times now, it appears to actually say the exact opposite of what you think it proves. Maybe we need some more context?
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posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 04:05 PM
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ON TOPIC REBUTTAL TO THIS POST:


Originally posted by saltheart foamfollower

Really, you know Fox Lies, can you present evidence....




ON TOPIC REBUTTAL TO OP:



A TWO-FER.







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posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 04:12 PM
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NO FAIR!

Actually, you are right. I am so saddened by the crap that O'Reilly over the years has said.
You ARE RIGHT kk.

Damn.

Anyway, I would still put FOX against any other news outlet compared to any other, even though I do not watch them anymore.

ONE EXCEPTION.

I hate to say it though, if you have watched Beck over the last year, he has not only laid out his theories, but he has asked people to disprove him. BUT, what is the facts of the case? No one has.

By the way, O'Reilly and Hannity suck. Beck and Gretta are about the only peeps that I still watch.

edit to add-what does the second video have to do with the price of water in Iraq?


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posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 04:16 PM
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Originally posted by saltheart foamfollower
Anyway, I would still put FOX against any other news outlet compared to any other, even though I do not watch them anymore.


Puzzling statement to say the least. How can anyone proclaim the accuracy of anything they do not watch? How would you know?


ONE EXCEPTION.

I hate to say it though, if you have watched Beck over the last year, he has not only laid out his theories, but he has asked people to disprove him.


So you do watch FOX?


BUT, what is the facts of the case? No one has.


Beck is proven wrong ALL THE TIME. Start a thread on that. I would be happy to join you there too. I know you want more reasons to post to me.




By the way, O'Reilly and Hannity suck. Beck and Gretta are about the only peeps that I still watch.



So you do not watch FOX, except for when you watch FOX and based on your NOT watching FOX, you can attest to not only it's accuracy but also that two of it's hosts "suck."

Reading that is quite similar to being stuck in a revolving door.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 05:46 PM
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Originally posted by saltheart foamfollower
edit to add-what does the second video have to do with the price of water in Iraq?


If you can stomach the song until the very end, Billy Bob dedicates it to the Tea Party, notwithstanding that the song is about the pit bull with lipstick. (self appointed spokesmodel for the TPM)

It was provided as a bonus track.



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posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 05:59 PM
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So where do you get your news? from Castro's News Network aka CNN? Obama's news network aka MSNBC?

Any other leftist anti-American news source?...

We could show how much the left media lies, and those who follow the left media love to believe such lies...



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