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Originally posted by FredT
The north's stated goal is reunification by force if need be and has massed an army on the DMZ for that expressed reason. ZCheng, do you see the similarities? Both you and Kim are willing to kill to satisfy your territorial ambitions. Wonder you you sleep at night.
Originally posted by zcheng
Do you ever want to die for US, if US was invaded?
War is hell. In terms of Taiwan, do not instigate the War on US part. China do not want war, but when war is forced on us, we do not fear anyone.
Originally posted by FredT
Originally posted by zcheng
Ok. Please tell me why US invaded Iraq in plain and simple words. US was going into Iraq for no reason?
Oil
Originally posted by zcheng
Glad you admit that it is for Oil. So this war is for aggression and pillaging of Iraq.
Originally posted by FredT
That was Level II sarcasm to feed your propaganda fueled mind. Oil played a part, but regime change was needed and would have happened sooner or later. Perhaps regime change is required in china as well!
Originally posted by mrmonsoon
We can use missles and distroy all above ground facilities-underground? We should be able to control the sky's with 350 fighters from the battle groups-but-they do have lots of SAMS and this will be an issue. I don't know if we have enough "wild weasles" to get to them all.
Then there is the ground war-he has about a million men and lots of tanks and big guns.
Originally posted by zcheng
Regine change is most needed in here US. I can see that from the rally for Kerry and Edwards yesterday.
Originally posted by FredT
Dude that is a political event. Planned and staged. You no doubt know all about staged political events. Much like you October 1 parades were you line people up, make them clap as you roll outdated equipment by. Im sure that free elections are a novelty to you so maybe you will learn as you watch your State Censored News Channel.....
Originally posted by zcheng
I voluntarily attended the rally, so it most people. If you say this is staged, that is fine with me. The name of Censored News Network is most appropriate for the CNN. Can you suggest one for Fox as well
Originally posted by Q
Zcheng, it is OK to be proud that you're Chinese. While the human rights record of China's government is highly dubious, they are the last remaining successful communist government, which is no small accomplishment. China also has many other historical and cultural accomplishments worthy of much pride. However, when it comes to viewing the rest of the world as it is, there is much to be desired. Much like the poor brainwashed people in North Korea, there is much that the Chinese people are simply never told. By the fact that you are posting on this site, it is evident that you are looking for the truth that you have been denied. Being as the odds are that this site would be inaccessible from China, and you seem somewhat up to speed on American politics, I'm guessing that you are probably here in the US as well. If so, please use the freedom that we have here to learn what's really happening. (Yes, a lot of it can even be found on this site, if you can separate it from the propaganda.) The motto of this site is "to deny ignorance", it is in everyone's interest to do so.
By the fact that you are posting on this site, it is evident that you are looking for the truth that you have been denied.
Originally posted by FredT
Seriously are you sitting in a propaganda department. We have access to all kinds of news and information from as many sources that we care to. However as you yourself have admitted your government censors information. The news corporations here are private entities.
Im curious why you chose to ignore the post on the true history of Taiwan.
See it here at:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Originally posted by American Mad Man
I'll make it simple for you:
North Korea = Bad guy
South Korea = Good Guy
US = Good Guy + Good Ally
ohhh yeah, and.....
China < US
"This year I expect growth to exceed three percent in the third and fourth quarters of this year, and four percent next year," the treasury secretary said.
The expectations were echoed by private economists' forecasts, he said in the statement, which was issued in Frankfurt.
In North America, the US is forecast to grow by 4% in 2004, making it the fastest-growing major developed country. Fiscal and monetary policies will remain highly stimulatory, despite the improvement in economic growth.
World growth league table, 2004
20 fastest-growing countries GDP
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China 8.4
For statisticians who want to have fun, China�s gross domestic product numbers have for years provided a marvelous playground. A patchy collection system, a well-entrenched tradition of local officials of puffing up production figures to improve their promotion prospects, and a large incentive for national leaders to lay beautiful numbers at the feet of foreign investors, all gave sceptics plenty of room to argue that China exaggerated its GDP growth in the first two decades of reform.
Various studies concluded such exaggeration was severe. The University of Chicago�s Alwyn Young estimated that China�s economy grew by 6.2 percent a year from 1986-98, well below the official figure of 9.2 percent. Even a domestic thinktank, the China National Economic Research Centre, found that growth from 1978-98 averaged 8.4 percent, more than a point below the official number.
China's exports probably grew at their slowest pace in 10 months in May as the SARS epidemic curbed consumption in key Asian export markets, and kept U.S. and European buyers away from the region.
Originally posted by American Mad Man
Now, lets take Chinas GDP of 5.989 trillion and project it increasing by the claimed 8.4%
That gives us there new GDP of 6,393,432,000,000, for an increase of 404,432,000,000. not bad. But compare that to the US....
USA GDP =10.45 trillion with a growth rate of 4%
that gives us 10,868,000,000,000, with a 418,000,000,000 increase.
Originally posted by zcheng
Originally posted by American Mad Man
Now, lets take Chinas GDP of 5.989 trillion and project it increasing by the claimed 8.4%
That gives us there new GDP of 6,393,432,000,000, for an increase of 404,432,000,000. not bad. But compare that to the US....
USA GDP =10.45 trillion with a growth rate of 4%
that gives us 10,868,000,000,000, with a 418,000,000,000 increase.
Just tell me what the percentage of the GDP is about actually producing goods in both US and China. For a hair cut, how much is it in China and how much is it in US?
In times of war, service sectors do not count a much. That is real strength of China and the weakness of US economy. US economy hollowing will continue until full collapse, which I believe is near.
Originally posted by American Mad Man
Besides, the US economy, as I have already pointed out, is growing faster then Chinas. Face the facts dude, the US is top dog, and will be for our lifetime (unless there is nuclear war). I am not going to say that the US will always be the most powerfull, but for the next 50 or so years, the US is the country that everyone will be looking to live up to. END OF STORY.
Ohhh, and one more thing, instead of having this pathetic USA sucks/China rules mindset, why don't you think back to imperialistic Japan in the 40's and ask yourself exactly why China is still it's own country today.............
Yeah, thats what I thought.
Originally posted by zcheng
Originally posted by American Mad Man
Besides, the US economy, as I have already pointed out, is growing faster then Chinas. Face the facts dude, the US is top dog, and will be for our lifetime (unless there is nuclear war). I am not going to say that the US will always be the most powerfull, but for the next 50 or so years, the US is the country that everyone will be looking to live up to. END OF STORY.
Ohhh, and one more thing, instead of having this pathetic USA sucks/China rules mindset, why don't you think back to imperialistic Japan in the 40's and ask yourself exactly why China is still it's own country today.............
Yeah, thats what I thought.
The collapse of US economy is imminent, due the mamoth national and private debt. Let's wait one or two years.
Recently US stock market is beginning the process of collapsing.
Originally posted by zcheng
Those children died because of the lack of medicine and medical equipment due to sanction, not money. The UN is ready to relieve the santions, but US and UK will not allow it to do so. US and UK are enforcing so called no fly zone, apparently prepare for future attack which occur in march 2003.
Simply because of US position in UN, UN can not do its job effectively. How many times does US vetoed or threatened to veto the resolution concerning Israel and Palestine? The alternative is to strengthen UN, not weaken UN as US is always doing.
Concerning others, maybe. But you also have to see that when US entered the war, Soviet Union had repelled invasion of Germany, German had no more power to invade others. It was just time before the Soviet Union can liberate other parts of Europe.
Do not maximize US contribution and marginalize others contribution.