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Ther's the problem.
THAT is why you NEVER leave your national interest up to other nations.
Do you mean Jesus Christ?
The same God of Abraham and Isaac. And the Christ.
You, apparently have a different Bible than I do.
. . .how that "heredity" thing works according to God's tenets.
Now the land belongs to the modern state of Israel. Oddly, it came forth in one day - one DAY. Just as prophecied.
Do you actually think that is an argument?
. . .nations form, break apart, declare independence,. . .
I did ask for your definition of a bigot and I guess it would be a Christian.
. . .narrow-minded bigots such as yourself, hiding behind the cross to spill your hatred.
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by nenothtu
Yes I can.
Heredity of the Palestinians and the long history of their being a distinct country gives the inhabitants the right to continue living on the land they possessed and their forefathers possessed.
Some usurpers from another land and claiming some hypothetical hereditary right to take the land away from the inhabitants of that land is ridiculous and especially if they can not produce proof to substantiate that claim.
They just walk in and say, this is my land because I say so, and everyone is just supposed to pack up and leave?
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by FarArcher
Do you actually think that is an argument?
. . .nations form, break apart, declare independence,. . .
Tell me which one of those countries just popped up out of nowhere, meaning the entire population was imported from across the sea and just took over.
This Israel, in one day became a recognized nation.
Something completely alien and impossible a few thousand years ago when the prophecy was written.
Is the uniqueness of this starting to sink in?
Or is your hatred of me such that you're being stupid on purpose?
I don't see how making enigmatic statements fills the role of an actual argument?
. . .I know how they differ.
It would be inconsistent of me to think that people who have a family history of generations of living in Palestine before 1945 should be kicked out for being Jewish.
Many Israelis were born and raised there.
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by nenothtu
I don't see how making enigmatic statements fills the role of an actual argument?
. . .I know how they differ.
OH, and those "usurpers from a foreign land"? How do they differ from the usurpers from a foreign land who conquered the area in 638 AD and settled the "Palestinians" in there? I know how they differ. Do you?
If you ever get around to making a point let me know.
As for promises, they are fulfilled in the new sons of Abraham as I stated earlier.
The way to understand the promises made in the old times is realize that when you see "Israel", to think of those new sons of God who are the truly converted believers, as Jesus said, to be born again. Being born into a particular ethnic group does not give you a free pass into the Kingdom of God.
If someone wants to invent a God and create a Kingdom themselves, and name it in such a way of having an outward appearance as being a nation dedicated to that God you made, then that is something different. Then you have the power to make your own rules for who is allowed in.
But when your life is over, then your soul will perish with your body and you will not enter the real Kingdom that lasts forever.
That is your choice but I am under no obligation to support you in your pursuit of a satisfaction in this life.
What you get from your endeavors is what you will enjoy in this brief moment which is your life.
I have a higher goal which is a earth made new and one that God makes Himself and will never perish and the inhabitants will never die.
If you have no faith in such a thing then you have no interest in how you treat others and so my judgment of "of the devil" with means self gratification without regard to the consequences, to others, or to yourself.