Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by nenothtu
I don't see how making enigmatic statements fills the role of an actual argument?
. . .I know how they differ.
Nice try. The full quote is this:
OH, and those "usurpers from a foreign land"? How do they differ from the usurpers from a foreign land who conquered the area in 638 AD and settled
the "Palestinians" in there? I know how they differ. Do you?
It's not an "enigmatic statement", it's a question. Apparently too enigmatic a question to gain an answer. Let me clarify:
If you ever get around to making a point let me know.
There's one, just above here. Quick, catch it before it gets away!
As for promises, they are fulfilled in the new sons of Abraham as I stated earlier.
Among whom you include "Palestinians", but not Jews, I take it. Interesting take on that. Is there any logic to it?
The way to understand the promises made in the old times is realize that when you see "Israel", to think of those new sons of God who are the truly
converted believers, as Jesus said, to be born again. Being born into a particular ethnic group does not give you a free pass into the Kingdom of
"Palestinians" take precedence over Jews in this equation exactly how? You contradict your previous position here by excluding membership in any
particular ethnic group, i.e. "blood heredity", so what are the new criteria now?
BTW, I can't say that I believe ethnicity EVER gave one a free pass into heaven. I don't believe folks can get to heaven on a technicality, the number
of Christians and Jews trying to notwithstanding. Then again, we aren't discussing heaven, so I'll get back to the Nation of Israel now...
If someone wants to invent a God and create a Kingdom themselves, and name it in such a way of having an outward appearance as being a nation
dedicated to that God you made, then that is something different. Then you have the power to make your own rules for who is allowed in.
Hold right there. I "made" no God. There is but One, and I neither made Him nor do I make policy for Him. He is quite capable of making policy for
himself, and that policy is clearly stated. It doesn't need any sort of "amplification" from either you or I. Likewise, I didn't write the rules, I'm
only bound to uphold them, rather than reinterpret them.
But when your life is over, then your soul will perish with your body and you will not enter the real Kingdom that lasts forever.
Sorry, hoss. That's not YOUR call. That would be between myself and any deity I deal with - which is most certainly not you. You, sir, can preach me
into hell all day long. Doesn't mean I'll go. I recognize a higher authority than yourself, and He may just have other ideas. I prefer to allow Him to
think for himself.
That is your choice but I am under no obligation to support you in your pursuit of a satisfaction in this life.
Nor am I under any obligation to support you, or the "Palestinians" for that matter, in any of YOUR temporal pursuits. I'd say we're about even
What you get from your endeavors is what you will enjoy in this brief moment which is your life.
Again, not your call, however hard you try to wrest it from the hands of God. I do not give you that power, and neither has He.
I have a higher goal which is a earth made new and one that God makes Himself and will never perish and the inhabitants will never die.
Good luck with that, and I truly hope you make it. That will of course be between you and your God.
If you have no faith in such a thing then you have no interest in how you treat others and so my judgment of "of the devil" with means self
gratification without regard to the consequences, to others, or to yourself.
That's a mighty sweeping judgment, considering that you know nothing of me, my background, OR my motivations. I reject that judgment. I'll place it on
appeal to a higher court for you. Get ready to defend it.
edit on 2011/1/21 by nenothtu because: (no reason given)