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Mike Lee: Federal Child Labor Laws Are Unconstitutional (VIDEO)

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posted on Mar, 10 2011 @ 07:01 PM
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Know why those places don't exist anymore? Child labor laws.

And I'm certain you were just surrounded by addicts and gangbangers in school.
Y'know, I actually did go to school in the ghetto, including a two-month stint at Compton High school in, where else, Compton. Excepting weed, know how many drug users there were? About twenty. Crazy thing, most high school kids can't afford hard drugs; most can't even afford beer. Gangbangers? Harder number to figure, when you consider everyone was posing. So, hey, 'scuse me if I doubt that you were neck-deep in thugs and crackheads during your schooling




posted on Mar, 10 2011 @ 07:12 PM
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Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
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The first half of my life was essentially a waste because I couldn't do what I needed to do to get where I wanted to be. I had to tolerate all the garbage everybody else thought I needed.

This child labor nonsense is one of those things.


I had a paper route when I was 11 years old.
I mowed lawns on weekends from 13-18.
I had a part time job in one of the top 100 companies in the US - Wegmans - when I was 15.

Who exactly are you blaming for the half of your life that you wasted?
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posted on Mar, 10 2011 @ 07:13 PM
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Thugs, crackheads, teenage prostitutes, several "gun in classroom" events each year, teachers being beaten unconscious, paddy wagons picking up entire families etc....

All besides the point being that my life should have gone one way and that ms to outside interference it has gone another way and I'm not going to reach the end of this one and get another chance. I suppose I should just cut my losses and make the best of it. Sure, like whistling in prison.

I can deal with nature being unpredictable and interfering but here we have an artificial external force who's sole purpose is to interfere with my life.

Very hard to tolerate. Very hard.


 
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posted on Mar, 10 2011 @ 07:18 PM
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15 is the legal age in most states.

I had a paper route as well. Three actually from 11 to 13. Shoveled snow, mowed lawns, delivered groceries, all that crap.

None of which lends to COLA or annuals or merit. I had an IRA by then but there was no employer contribution.

Jus petty allowance earnig crap. No real work. No real mobility. Unless I wanted to be one of those 49 year old paper boys driving around half drunk at 3AM when I grew up.


 
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posted on Mar, 10 2011 @ 10:37 PM
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13 year old job mobility?

Yeah - it's called a BIKE.

You think that someone is going to pay a COLA or a pension plan for a young teen? You think there is some sort of cubicle job, or skilled labour for kids.

The child labour around the world is BACK BREAKING work.

Go back to the school that you didn't pay attention to and take out a history book. If what you were looking for it to die of tar lung after working for 15 hour days, your plan is great.

You seem to be under the impression there is some executive training program with benefits and flex days for 12 year olds. And there is....it's called SCHOOL.
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posted on Mar, 10 2011 @ 10:48 PM
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15 is the legal age in most states.

I had a paper route as well. Three actually from 11 to 13. Shoveled snow, mowed lawns, delivered groceries, all that crap.

None of which lends to COLA or annuals or merit. I had an IRA by then but there was no employer contribution.

Jus petty allowance earnig crap. No real work. No real mobility. Unless I wanted to be one of those 49 year old paper boys driving around half drunk at 3AM when I grew up.


Are you honestly trying to promote the idea that you should have had a good job at the age of 11-15? Middle management? Perhaps you should have had a high level position in R&D somewhere at that age? The only reason you were not a CEO at 15 is because of those pesky child labor laws? Would you hire a bunch of 12 year olds to run your company? Would you expect that to go well? I am really confused as to what it is you think you could have achieved at those ages were it not for child labor laws. Maybe you can point me to the companies out there advocating doing away with child labor laws because they cannot get enough 15 year olds in executive positions.

What else were you mature and smart enough to take on at those ages? Voting? Going to war? Buying alcohol? Consenting to sex?



posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 06:06 AM
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Those last two posts are indicative of the problem that causes this nonsense.

Kids can't do anything, kids aren't worth anything, just let them waste away their days in the herd of the lowest common denominator farm of public school.

And from this we've gotten 30 year olds at home with mom and dad, 25 year olds fighting to stay on their parents insurance even if they aren't students, fully grown "adults" with no concept of savings, investing, and a completely non-existant work ethic.

At 12 I could have certainly done the job I currently do. A job that requires by the governing associations standards at least three degrees. A complete crock of a standard by the way. Every paper I've submitted to the professional journals about this sham requirement to inflate a sense of self worth that is wholly unwarranted has been ignored despite numerous colleagues over the years agreeing the scam is absurd because nobody wants to lose their made up titles and preposterous salaries. Nobody wants the gravy train to end slammed up against a rock wall of reality.

Humans, especially Americans, are treating the world like it's some fantasy land. Like it's the Sims or something. I'm sure for quite a few people this artificial approach to reality works out very well. For many others it's an obnoxious obstacle. But I'm completely wrong because might makes right in this democratic world and I lack the might.


 
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posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 08:25 AM
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Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
Those last two posts are indicative of the problem that causes this nonsense.



Your entire post is about a fantasy world where college education is worthless across the board and because your job it lousy, all 12 year old kids are perfectly capable of performing the same tasks as any well trained adult and you suggest that we are living in a fantasy world while you are being realistic? Some kids have not even reached puberty at 12 but you are suggesting they are as mature and capable as any adult? Why then do you ignore the age of consent laws? Where is your advocation for the revocation of that? You do not think some 12 year old is going to spend 10 days at the office, going over the company budget, without wanting to blow off some steam with a little sex and a few glasses of scotch do you? That is a lot of stress for a kid when they are not allowed to trade YuGiOh cards during work time.



posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 12:00 PM
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Hey, if you're that good that you can get through school quickly then do it. You have that option.

My children are worth enough to make sure that they have a solid basis on which to grow into adults with.

That means they are worth treating school AS a job. One that benefits them, their future employees, and my grandchildren when they come around. A job that increases their earning potential, health, benefits, and overall lifestyle - backed up by stats.

If you can get through the "warehouse" quickly because you're just crackerjack - then do it.



posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 02:43 PM
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It all depends on what that "labor" is really, so that argument really only holds water in some situations. But the whole thing ties into the whole paradigm of civilization of which one point that it turns on is, the minimum wage thing, which is a double edged sword, it works in some ways. But in other ways, it also keeps people under the thumb's of tptb, because they get to set there personal "minimum" for the "worth" of whatever job make them a "profit", and you can guess how that went, and will go, most will go were the profits will be cheaper for whoever gets to impose the "minimums".

Basically the whole thing will eventually fall apart, and all the duck taping, they are doing will just hold it for so long before it all falls apart, and a new paradigm will need to be created and put in place. The whole problems with the school=job or job=school thing is that it's not thought out fully, and now were just seeing it becoming a symptom of the system falling apart slowly, were there paradigms do not work as well in practice, as in there theory's.

Add into that greed, human failing and nature, the corporations, rich people and there interests, and there control mechanism's , and off course tptb, and you get one big mess, that is swept under the rug every once in a while, all the while there all hoping that somebody will come along and fix there problems that they created. And so it will go till your all walking on filth with a carpet on top of it. The veneer is the curtain that is put up to hide, what is behind the curtain. Definitely weird, and funny, in lots of ways, all brought by the failure to grasp the complexities of human faults, needs, and wants, nature at its finest at work.



posted on Mar, 11 2011 @ 10:28 PM
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Figures a Tea bagger would be trying to say that Child Labour laws are unconstitutional. My, my, tells you exactly where their head and gameplan is at.

To allow the continued exploitation of child labour laws.

Bagger crud is all Anti American, no more distinction will be made anymore from now on out as it is confirmed proof positive that the entire Bagger Klan is Anti American slime and scum.



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