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Iridium Is The Massive Conspiracy!!! ATS This is massive!!

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posted on Jan, 16 2011 @ 09:39 AM
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Just a bit of advice based on how this thread is going...

First, many people don't have the time (or the bandwidth even in today's world of readily available high bandwidth connections) to go through all of these links. People have families and responsibilities and if early on it looks like you're spinning a shaggy dog story, then people are not going to grant you the enormous amount of leeway that it takes to follow you on this thread. This is why it is critical for you to at least present a summary of each link is about and what its critical conclusions are. As it stands now, your thread is just an aggregate of links to content that other people have developed and a command to read them in order to understand what you wish to express. This should not be necessary -- you should have clearly expressed it already, in your OP. Your own personal conclusions are not obvious, and it took me 8 pages of this thread before I felt I had even a minor grasp of what you think (and even then it was because another member expressed it for you). I have no desire to come back despite the fact that I find the content somewhat interesting (and I've even followed the links). Why don't I want to return to the thread? Because it has no obvious direction, no clear leader, and no clear conclusions. All the evidence presented leans towards the circumstantial. You need to take a step back and consider the reality of this and take control of your thread. Direct it with fully formed thoughts and ideas of your own that draw from the evidence you've provided and render it in an understandable way, particularly one that does not require a person to visit twenty or thirty external links (keep the links, just don't rely so much on them to do your work for you).

A cogent idea typically is expressed in the format of introduction, evidence, and conclusion. I have yet to see you personally state a conclusion, merely assert that taking the time to process all the evidence you present will make the conclusion obvious. I had no idea what you were trying to conclude until other members presented several guesses and you confirmed one. From what other members have stated, it should be clear to you now that your evidence does not lead to an obvious conclusion in the minds of other members. This is when you need to step up and actually express your thoughts cogently, rather than continue to pile on links or continue asserting that the only reason people must not be understanding you is because they haven't seen the links. While that may be true on a superficial level, the ultimate truth is that people aren't understanding your thread because you personally are not doing a good job of expressing yourself. I do not mean this as an insult, merely a simple observation, and I hope you take it to heart in the spirit in which it is intended. It is your job to drive your thread in the direction you want it to go. It is your job to inform the readers of your thread what you're saying. It is not the job of external content or other members to deduce your conclusion and tell the rest of the thread what it is so that people can follow along without getting lost. If you're getting a lot of puzzled responses, make no mistake about it, it is because you have failed to express your idea properly. You will drive more people away from your thread by failing to do this than any other thing you do or don't do.

I think there is a lot of interesting stuff here, it just needs to be fleshed out properly. Most people aren't going to make it to page 8 before giving up and either posting early or leaving the thread, and it took a significant amount of patience for me to get that far.
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posted on Jan, 16 2011 @ 09:40 AM
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So we're supposed to be scared of communication satellites suddenly?

Do you even know what an Iridium flare is? It's where the satellite catches the sunlight and you see the reflection of the sun on it's panels. Do you understand? A REFLECTION.
Pity's sake, reading this board these days is like going back in time to the days of ducking stools and magic. (snip)


 

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posted on Jan, 16 2011 @ 09:40 AM
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So there are satellites and haarp and all that ..but so what if a lot of them contain iridium. We have known about haarp and blue beam and all sorts of stuff for ages. Sorry I can't figure out what is new and earth shaking about this, or what we could do about it if we did ...



posted on Jan, 16 2011 @ 09:42 AM
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This sums it up beautifully
Thankyou


Originally posted by cosmicpixie

Originally posted by ladyinwaiting

Read through all my posts on the thread (in my first few I am as confused as anyone else). I didn't really know what Jazz was trying to get at with all his numerous links to various articles so instead of reading his links, to begin with I just did a bit of googling...stuff like Iridium satellites, mind control and Iridium satellites, weather modification etc. What I read from googling enabled me to get a tentative grasp on what Jazz was talking about and I just kept following the clues and piecing it together.

My big posts on page 8 will explain what the satellite system might be able to do, in conjunction with HAARP as well as what it can maybe do as a stand-alone system . Weather modification, mind controll, brain wave monitoring , making signs and wonders appear in the sky, global surveillance , targetting the human body /animal bodies to create problems or kill and so on. I suggest they have been testing various things out as they add to the technology. When the system was first put in place it might not have had these capabilities. Now it may well do and they are playing around with it to hone the various skills the system has.


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posted on Jan, 16 2011 @ 09:46 AM
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That second part of my post - see if you can put it in similar words of your own design then place in your opening post before all the links. This is the most basic premise of what you have theorized and will set the scene for all the link information and videos and help readers to understand the foundation of the thread. Don't know if you can still edit your opening post though .....



posted on Jan, 16 2011 @ 09:47 AM
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From what I can make out of the insane jumble of an OP, it looks like you're linking to resources about Iridium the element and linking to other resources about the communication company Iridium and it's satellite network.
What the hell is that about? They have nothing to do with each other! The only thing they have in common is the name. Please explain what you find so threatening about the reflection from the satellites panels? Should we be scared when the Sun reflects off the panels on other satellites or the ISS? Pray tell, I'm all ears.



posted on Jan, 16 2011 @ 09:51 AM
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I can't put my finger on it but something's really off. It's almost as if the OP wants us to connect the dots on our own without him doing it with a summary. Why? I don't know. But it strikes me that there must be a reason behind it. OP do you possess any inside information? Do you work for this corporation?



posted on Jan, 16 2011 @ 09:55 AM
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Part of you question has been answered already in this thread.
The atomic number of Iridium is 77.
77 is the number of satellites the company originally intended to put out there but lack of funds meant they only got 66 up there

Iridium-rich clay deposits across the globe have been linked to an extinction-level event millions of years ago, where meteorites from space rich in this element crashed to earth .

Iridium connects to the idea of total wipeout, destruction, outer space etc....which in turn are things Iridium Communications is concerned with ...sort of. The big agenda is to wipe out the current order, control humanity and begin anew in a world where they have total control of the mind, body , weather, etc via the satellite set up and how it works with HAARP and so forth. Iridium rich meteorites brought destruction, and Iridium Satellites have ways of causing their own destruction.

So really it's a sort of side - note and the connection is conceptual rather than directly related to the chemical /sciencey side of Iridium the element.



posted on Jan, 16 2011 @ 09:56 AM
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Laziness and/or unfamiliarity with how to properly form arguments are far more likely causes. Being an insider doesn't prevent you from making a conclusion, especially if you're already presenting evidence.
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posted on Jan, 16 2011 @ 09:57 AM
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As Cosmicpixie did, I read everything and did a bit of investigating on my own with google. I definatly see the connection here that your trying to get at Jazz. It all makes complete sense when you put the pieces together, it links together all the things that have been going on in the world. I do however agree with Cosmicpixie when it was stated that this is so big and so unimaginable that "most" are not grasping the concept or even trying to open thier minds to it. When you hit upon something so bizarre, the first reaction is NO WAY. I always tend to give benefit of the doubt, there would be absoultly no reason in the world that you would research this and continue to do so if there was not a link in all of this, so in the beginning I didn't see it, 3 hours later.. i'm sitting here thinking "my god, we are all screwed"

Jazz I would definatly keep pushing this, you are so correct in everything. please don't get frustrated with the ones that don't understand, it will come to them, sometimes it just takes awhile for something like this to really sink in. btw awesome job on this find and linking this all together.



posted on Jan, 16 2011 @ 09:58 AM
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Originally posted by boomadatigger
I can't put my finger on it but something's really off. It's almost as if the OP wants us to connect the dots on our own without him doing it with a summary. Why? I don't know. But it strikes me that there must be a reason behind it. OP do you possess any inside information? Do you work for this corporation?


I think you are reading too much into it. He's just not a natural at summaries . There have been summaries made throughout the thread though so by now everyone is able to know what he is getting at, if time is taken to wade through the thread. Posts on the past 3 pages should help, especially mine.



posted on Jan, 16 2011 @ 10:04 AM
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How can i post your piece into my OP? It wouldnt allow me maybe someone could ask a moderator?
My threads have never been the best, i never said they were. Check the date i joined ATS? I only first touched a PC or a laptop about 3 months before that? You all dont understand how hard it is trying to do this when im still trying to get the jist anyway??

Please bear with me for crying out loud..

Lets just say a fresh set of eyes see's things from a different perspective.

Like the bystander who helped the emergency services figure out how to get the bus out from under the bridge as it was jammed solid??? "Let the tyres down''........... Too busy using the procedures etcc etc overlooking the obvious.



posted on Jan, 16 2011 @ 10:08 AM
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There is a window of time in which you can still edit thread titles and opening posts...but I can't recall how many hours or days. If you are still within the window you will know as if you go to your opening post on here you will see an EDIT function somewhere. If you have missed the window, you won't be able to put anything new into that opening post.

Let me ask you again about SKYNET .... you have mentioned this several times and most people's understanding of SKYNET connects to a sci-fi film

Is it your belief that the Iridium Satellites will eventually gain self awareness ? Or am I misunderstanding you ?



posted on Jan, 16 2011 @ 10:13 AM
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Originally posted by cosmicpixie
My big posts on page 8 will explain what the satellite system might be able to do, in conjunction with HAARP as well as what it can maybe do as a stand-alone system . Weather modification, mind controll, brain wave monitoring , making signs and wonders appear in the sky, global surveillance , targetting the human body /animal bodies to create problems or kill and so on.


Okay I was like many others, confused by the OP's posts and felt he (assuming a he) needed to organise their thoughts and then put some words into context explaining the purpose of the thread.

While not believing in one thing or another, I have had a recent thought that we will be duped at some point the near future by grand display, something like a real world cinema and what people have been witnessing (and experiencing to some degree) is a part of this ploy.

What better way to control the masses and fool them to first get them hooked on technology (because it is like a drug now thanks to the facebooks of the internet..) so as to make everyone that much more receptive to anything that does appear.

It's like the movies from the 90's, 80',s and further back, they allowed a lot of room for the imagination to work freely, giving each viewer a unique experience of a movie but you compare that to the "HD" age we live in now..The viewer is not given any room to imagine, to think, literally told (in high definition information overload) this is HOW it is.

The world lacks imagination it seems but this merely conjecture on my part and I am going off-topic.

Advice to the OP: take a step back from your first posts, come back to them again and you should be able to organise the information in a coherent manner.

At the moment you are providing a lot of information but you have barely made any connections apart from the Iridium, put it into context, add some substance to it and give the information a beginning and an end.

*I am however going through all the information and the links you provided as you have perked my interest).


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posted on Jan, 16 2011 @ 10:17 AM
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Cosmicpixie please take this thread. You see exactly what i am getting at here. You however do it better than me. Your last replies have nailed it


In order for this to move forward you need to start it again. You can explain, use this thread as archives or something.
I will say this right now, you have my backing so if i dont reply its because my internet is playing up.
Take the thread over


Ive set the ball rolling now you must keep it going.



posted on Jan, 16 2011 @ 10:19 AM
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How did i get here?


A citation to this post was made in the Australian Floods were MAN MADE thread supporting the idea that Iridium was responsible for the event.

With this in mind, is the following fictional explanation analogous to the iridium case;

a) lets try carbon, essential component of amino acids/DNA. Carbon is everywhere and its concentration in the atmosphere modulated by human activity. It is also possible that the increase of carbon in the living biosphere is deliberate to fulfill some malicious agenda. In understanding a mechanism by which increased carbon adversely affects humans i will come up with the following fictional scenario. Lets say there was hidden research performed by TPTB that showed Carbon 15 and a half was bio-accumulated in the global food chain would render the population in a mind controlled state. So TPTB worked out away to incorporate said carbon in during refining of gasoline. All the big oil companies were in on it.

Because carbon has been a hot topic in the media it would be possible to cherry pick a selection of references that would describe a conspiracy of just about any theme I wanted. To be fair iridium is rarely reported by the media in comparison to carbon and this made the difference between reading on and dismissing the article as bunk.

Coming back to the assertion made by the OP, if his conclusion is correct I am afraid that the OP has found the meaning of life (on the basis that this think is instrumental in the "matrix" that we know as consciousness). THIS IS HUGE as the OP states a number of times.

So now I am going to assume this is correct, the first question that comes to mind is why did god ( or other creator) choose this person to uncover the meaning of life (outside of the water tight circle we know as TPTB). With something so big I would think there would be a history of some sort of spiritual journey prior or some sort of convergence of chromosomes or DNA leading up to this. Alternatively it could be some "ordinary" guy typical of the average person just getting lucky. Either way, I am now interested in the person behind the story, and how you beat me to the punch.

OP, can you share a little about yourself and what got you into understanding life at a technical level?



posted on Jan, 16 2011 @ 10:33 AM
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Im a 33 year old male Aquarius reduced to tears that my message has found you.

I have been trying to explain what it is that is the deception and i know i can put the world right.
The events throughout my life are what has made me what i am today. The more i changed the more i witness the less i believed brought me to question my own feelings and beliefs.
Our senses ? most are being manipulated

Please tell me what our senses are? Then tell me is there any way they can be manipulated, in any way shape or form.

Ive just torn down the illusion and exposing to you what it is. In God i have faith. Coincidences with my life and me bringing the messages to you? I would say it was what God designed for me. To bring you the truth.

Love, and remember challenge your mind follow your hearts.



posted on Jan, 16 2011 @ 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by magycpapyri
As Cosmicpixie did, I read everything and did a bit of investigating on my own with google. I definatly see the connection here that your trying to get at Jazz. It all makes complete sense when you put the pieces together, it links together all the things that have been going on in the world. I do however agree with Cosmicpixie when it was stated that this is so big and so unimaginable that "most" are not grasping the concept or even trying to open thier minds to it. When you hit upon something so bizarre, the first reaction is NO WAY. I always tend to give benefit of the doubt, there would be absoultly no reason in the world that you would research this and continue to do so if there was not a link in all of this, so in the beginning I didn't see it, 3 hours later.. i'm sitting here thinking "my god, we are all screwed"

Jazz I would definatly keep pushing this, you are so correct in everything. please don't get frustrated with the ones that don't understand, it will come to them, sometimes it just takes awhile for something like this to really sink in. btw awesome job on this find and linking this all together.



posted on Jan, 16 2011 @ 10:42 AM
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Originally posted by jazz10
This is a massive topic and i ask that ATS dont overlook this.


Look at the other meanings for Iridium
en.wikipedia.org...(disambiguation)

Iridium is the chemical element with atomic number 77.en.wikipedia.org...

Iridium may also refer to:

Iridium satellite constellation, a constellation of satellites used to provide voice and data coverage
en.wikipedia.org...
Iridium Communications Inc., the company that operates the satellite constellation en.wikipedia.org...
Iridium Jazz Club en.wikipedia.org...

Yes, same question, what's with the jazz club again?



posted on Jan, 16 2011 @ 10:44 AM
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Originally posted by pezza


Coming back to the assertion made by the OP, if his conclusion is correct I am afraid that the OP has found the meaning of life (on the basis that this think is instrumental in the "matrix" that we know as consciousness). THIS IS HUGE as the OP states a number of times.




This is what reduced me to tears because i believe that thats what it all boils down too. Ive been banging my head against a wall trying to tell you what a break through this is.Ive discovered something that beggars belief.
Should i be worried personally or grasp the moment
and get the truth out there.

It wont belong before this gets out.Message cant be stopped now, the only other way would be a mass kill switch which will only make matters worse for tptb. Turning it off? Not likely!!!!!



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