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# "Vortex Based Mathematics by Marko Rodin"

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posted on Feb, 18 2011 @ 11:51 AM

To avoid any similarities inside number theory... Define this mapping as a mod 9. If you'll notice, the issue was cleared up a few pages ago.

posted on Feb, 18 2011 @ 11:56 AM

I'm certainly not opposed... Whatever we end up with it might as well be similar to programming.

posted on Feb, 18 2011 @ 12:17 PM

Originally posted by buddhasystem
Measuring AC power

You are correct to worry about phase shift. That is a common mistake many folks make when they try to do power measurements. Multiplying the RMS voltage with the RMS current will not produce an accurate result if phase difference is present. And if you are using a powerful motor like a router, you can expect some phase shift.

Buddhasystem is correct, it's a common mistake. The ratio of true power to apparent power is something electrical engineers call "power factor":

What is power factor?

Power factor is the ratio of true power or watts to apparent power or volt amps....If the true power is 1870 watts and the volt amp reading is 2200. Than the power factor is 0.85 or 85 percent...

An incandescent bulb would have a power factor of close to 1.0. A one hp motor about 0.80.
They actually make power factor correction devices which can supposedly help save on your electric bill, but they probably don't help most residential customers as much as they might help commercial customers of electricity, because the metering is often different. I e-mailed a company selling one of these devices and calculated that my electric bill might actually go up if I installed it and I was being metered for true power factor..so beware of all the scams out there and people that don't really understand the difference between volt-amps and power.

Since this is a thread about mathematics I'll say that I found the phase math quite interesting too. The teacher asked me to figure out what number, when multiplied by itself, results in negative one, and then use that in my calculations. That was fun!

posted on Feb, 18 2011 @ 01:02 PM

Originally posted by Mary Rose

Rodin: "Spirit is mechanical. Creation is a machine. It is one big motor. No one has been able to work at such a fine resolution. I'm able to model and observe... I actually know where spirit is - when and where, in space, and all around us, and at any given moment, I can stop and observe time and creation in a freeze-framed view, where I can see the very instance of the moment of occurrence where spirit, and magnetism, and electricity intersect. Today we call magnetism and electricity the well known EMF effect. That's because they can't separate electricity and magnetism from each other. EMF stands for electromagnetic field. I found that I could observe electricity and magnetism being completely separate from each other."

posted on Feb, 18 2011 @ 01:22 PM
I'll add one more thing, and this was an older post of mine on the code144 forum years ago. Perhaps a bit naive and childish, but if you examine the symbol we use for heart, you start to notice alternating 9's being driven slightly away from each other facing a central linear column...

Love is a great place to find answers!

posted on Feb, 18 2011 @ 01:24 PM

Originally posted by Mary Rose
I found that I could observe electricity and magnetism being completely separate from each other."

And I found that I can observe pasta and tomato sauce being completely separate in my lasagna, even though conventional wisdom says it's one dish.

Rodin's pronouncements have nothing to do with physics, it's a feeble attempt at philosophy and quite shallow and boring at that.

posted on Feb, 18 2011 @ 01:30 PM
reply to post by Mary Rose

Continuing...

"And I found that what is even more spectacular is that in the center of magnetism is spirit, which is an energy always moving in the opposite direction of magnetism. and only magnetism can have slippage and free play into spirit... I discovered that spirit is a positive emanation. I discovered that spirit as it emanates creates what is called negative draft counterspace. Spirit is unique because it travels in a straight line, at least for the moment that I see it - after which it becomes invisible to me again - it's only for a brief instance, when it penetrates and rarefies the surface of the torus skin. It's an amazing visual image that I'm able to create, because I can literally see spirit energizing creation."

posted on Feb, 18 2011 @ 01:44 PM
reply to post by Mary Rose

Jamie Buturff (holding up a picture of the Rodin coil):

"There're two circuits here, and there's the blank space. That blank space is what pulls in... zero point energy, the zero point field is something that exists in order for the quantum electro dynamics to work. All their equations in quantum physics have to work according to the ZPE. There is infinite amounts of energy in the zero point field. What this space does in here, when this coil is pulsed properly, opposite directions from one another, at variant times... it causes a coupling of the ZPE."

posted on Feb, 18 2011 @ 01:47 PM

Originally posted by Mary Rose
reply to post by Mary Rose

Jamie Buturff (holding up a picture of the Rodin coil):

"There're two circuits here, and there's the blank space. That blank space is what pulls in... zero point energy, the zero point field is something that exists in order for the quantum electro dynamics to work. All their equations in quantum physics have to work according to the ZPE. There is infinite amounts of energy in the zero point field. What this space does in here, when this coil is pulsed properly, opposite directions from one another, at variant times... it causes a coupling of the ZPE."

Completely false. He doesn't have a clue what his talking about (which is the defining feature of Rodin's cultists).

edit on 18-2-2011 by buddhasystem because: typo

posted on Feb, 18 2011 @ 01:59 PM
sigh

it's all turned into a meaningless mass of wordsoup

People just saying things that they like the sound of, not questioning anything, just looking for other people who tell them what they want to hear.

Yuck. Just yuck.

posted on Feb, 18 2011 @ 03:47 PM

Originally posted by buddhasystem
He doesn't have a clue what his talking about (which is the defining feature of Rodin's cultists).
I don't know if cultist is a completely accurate portrayal but I do agree with it to the extent that it implies belief based in faith, and not based in any kind of real-world observational evidence. Now if they have meetings for coil worship or vortex worship maybe it really is a cult.

Originally posted by Bobathon
just looking for other people who tell them what they want to hear.
I think that's a human need that religion often fills. It's kind of nice to be told that when I die I'm going to go to heaven and see all my dead relatives and friends. I'm not completely against people being told what they want to hear, in a religious context.

It only bothers me when it's presented as math and science, like Rodin is doing. But wait, he even gives it religious connotations as well, like his illustration of "God's Fingerprint":

markorodin.com...
I mean the "mathematical fingerprint of God", as opposed to the other type of God's fingerprint.

Rodin’s Vortex Based Mathematics Coil explains the secret of creation.
Creation is a very religious concept if you ask me. Mainstream folks don't have any answers about what happened before the big bang or what even caused the big bang, so if you must have the the secret of creation explained and mainstream science won't do it, what other choice does one have, but to choose a religious answer?

Spirit Energy Emanations of a Rodin Coil
Hmm this paper sounds more and more religious.

• Atheism is false.
• Darwin’s evolution is false.
• Creationism that violates the laws of physics is false.
• Scientists never intended to disprove the existence of God.
OK Maybe buddhasystem is right, maybe it is a cult? There's sure enough religion in this version of "mathematics".

And how the heck did he get on the topic of evolution? Oh that's right, he's solved all the mysteries of DNA too....yeah, right.

DNA is not comprised of two helices but from three with the third helix being invisible
The fact that the third helix is invisible explains the lack of observable evidence for it in the real world. However Rodin never explains how he knows about this invisible helix, which nobody else can see.

Have faith brothers and sisters, and there is no end to the number of invisible things you can believe in.

And the part about Darwin's evolution being wrong, the last time I heard that was debating with someone about "creation science" if there is such a thing, I think it's just a code name for a religious viewpoint that someone tried to dress up to look like science. There is so much evidence in support of evolution that it's sometimes referred to as both theory and fact .

Personally, my experience has been that debating with evolution deniers is a pretty hopeless cause. You can't change a faith-based belief with facts. That's probably why this thread hasn't made much headway by presenting facts, I don't think the facts matter in matters of strong faith.

posted on Feb, 18 2011 @ 05:56 PM

Arb, you probably saw that, but if not, I hope you enjoy it:

posted on Feb, 18 2011 @ 06:09 PM
reply to post by Mary Rose

At about 7:50, it becomes painfully obvious that Marko's psychiatric condition took a turn to the worse. Poor guy.

posted on Feb, 18 2011 @ 06:32 PM

Let's be honest... There are people mumbling the same thing about you after witnessing your references to gluons and this "chakra-zulu" theory. I'll be the first to admit I'm thoroughly pauperized by your hypocrisy in terms of sarcasm, and yet... The World turns.

posted on Feb, 18 2011 @ 06:35 PM

Originally posted by Americanist

Let's be honest... There are people mumbling the same thing about you after witnessing your references to gluons and this "chakra-zulu" theory.

Wait, you didn't notice that I created this "theory" as a complete jest and a demonstration of just how thick some people are? Did you believe for a second I was serious? Really?

edit on 18-2-2011 by buddhasystem because: (no reason given)

posted on Feb, 18 2011 @ 06:40 PM

You did find sarcasm at the end.

posted on Feb, 18 2011 @ 07:40 PM

Lewis Black clip - Brilliant

posted on Feb, 18 2011 @ 07:55 PM

Originally posted by Bobathon

Lewis Black clip - Brilliant

Yes, he rocks. Plenty of his stuff on YouTube, but this one is my personal favorite. "Fossil". Priceless. There is a longer version of his "Religion" clip, with Old vs New Testament, just hilarious.

posted on Feb, 18 2011 @ 08:13 PM

Originally posted by buddhasystem

Yes, he rocks. Plenty of his stuff on YouTube, but this one is my personal favorite. "Fossil". Priceless. There is a longer version of his "Religion" clip, with Old vs New Testament, just hilarious.

"I would love to have the faith... but... I have thoughts"

posted on Feb, 18 2011 @ 08:14 PM

And thats part of the immense irony. You think that your garbled mess is comparable to Rodin, but Rodin actually makes a bit of sense.

It was immediately apparent that you were taking your sarcasm to the extreme, and are only interested in ridicule. Any ideas that could have been garnered from your linguistic exposition would not even have been recognized by yourself.

You don't understand the world yourself, instead you hide in your mathematic abstractions - equating them with reality. So you demonize and ignore anything which could lead you to understand more intuitively the physics which lie before your eyes, and which are accessible through your immediate experience and imagination.

I think this is clearly a symptom of your institution, can't really blame it on you alone. It is embedded in your chosen environment, and since it is a prominent and esoteric discipline, you feel entitled to judge every idea in your own court.

You are fermenting in the sour fruit of your own brew. Anything which smells different than your own recipe is foreign - and therefore threatening.

The discussion will never get anywhere, until you work at breaking through your own box.

I know, I know... you don't care about all this, and my mental faculties are not functioning properly, etc.

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