"Vortex Based Mathematics by Marko Rodin"

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posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 12:12 PM
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[mo

judging by your stats its safe to assume you have no life outside of being a troll, that being said, you have done little to change my feelings on this subject, in fact its trolls like you and your all knowing illusions that inspire me to dig deeper into the unknown.... give thanks!!!




posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 01:20 PM
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Originally posted by bluestorm
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[mo

judging by your stats its safe to assume you have no life outside of being a troll, that being said, you have done little to change my feelings on this subject, in fact its trolls like you and your all knowing illusions that inspire me to dig deeper into the unknown.... give thanks!!!
In addition to not being able to back up any of your claims about improved efficiency, you aren't a very careful reader either.

How is this an expression of an all-knowing illusion?


Originally posted by buddhasystem

Originally posted by 23432
Fact : Science doesn't have all the answers .
This fact is suitable and appropriate to teach any child imho .
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And I agree -- science doesn't have all the answers and it never will! At the same time, the crap published in pseudo-science threads here on ATS does not have any answers at all. And science has a few.
It's an admission that science doesn't have all the answers.

If you want to debate the facts of your efficiency improvement experiments, present the evidence. But if you are just making claims with nothing to back them up, it's not trolling to point that out.

I'm looking for ways to improve efficiency myself so if someone has some things that work, I'd like to know about them. LEDs do improve lighting efficiency, and I've seen evidence for this. I've never seen any credible evidence that Rodin coils improve the efficiency of anything.
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posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 02:07 PM
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i was directing my last reply to buddha and his modus operandi, unless you feel the need to defend the word troll, he seems to get off on condescendingly thinking he is right about everything ive read in his posts on this topic and many others, i know i dont know, but i like to explore the unknown, to each their own, and i will be posting my results dealing with lighting on this forum as i do. its only by taking paths that no one else does that we find new places, why discourage people, we would still be using candles if people took others opinions seriously. there are always gonna be people(haters) who say this cant be or that cant be coming from academia and all other places. That is not how i teach my kids, i teach them to keep an open mind and never pretend you have all the answers, who am i to say what is real? that being said there is truth in math, and this vortex or whatever someone wants to call it has helped me to realize this, I think thats a good thing that is well worth sharing and thats pretty much all i was saying in these post... sorry anyone , im done replying to this topic until i have something other than my passion to add to it, if only i had the time in between raising a family and running a small business to theorize with thousands of posts.... another thing i teach my kids dont just talk about it, do it.. seems lots of talk goes on here
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posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 02:39 PM
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Originally posted by bluestorm
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i was directing my comments solely at buddha, he seems to get off on thinking he is right on about everything


I'm not "getting off", and I never claimed to know everything. For example, I don't know what you are talking about in your rant about "ultimate truth like 1+1", how that truth needs to be taught to young children, and some "unified field theory", your alleged understanding of "vortex math", or even how you struggle to improve the efficiency of LED lighting systems. You make grand sounding claims and can't follow up on any of these, not with an iota of useful information. It's just a pile of pompous nothing.
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posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 01:40 PM
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look since i first saw rodin's "vortex" math i had a intuitive feeling, that it is just a crippled nonary arithmetic. i didn't want to spend my time to convert my intuitive feelings into words, but the community forced me to do so. Now i am both intuitively and practically absolutely sure that "vortex" math is just a crippled down nonary math/crap.

where rodin writes 9 - put 0 and there you go, pure nonary

and he operates with last digits of nonary system - why only last ones i dunno maybe that's why its called "vortex" - in other words ultimate crap math.

finally - i dont discard possibility that there is some benefit of operating in nonary, it indeed looks interesting but come on "vortex" !? gimme a break ...



posted on Feb, 4 2013 @ 03:20 PM
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Originally posted by sisoje
finally - i dont discard possibility that there is some benefit of operating in nonary, it indeed looks interesting but come on "vortex" !? gimme a break ...


How dare you to question the existence of the Holy Vortex! Did you know that Rodin has discovered the true spelling of the Name of Our Lord God with his coil and that's how it operates? How can you question THAT?

Here, behold the universal truth:


At the age of fifteen Marko Rodin projected his mind as far as he could across the universe and asked the question, "What is the secret behind intelligence?" Due to his gift of intense focus or because it was time for him to know the answer, his stomach muscles turned to iron and as he was literally lifted forward he answered out loud, "I understand." What he had gleaned from his query was that all intelligence comes from a person's name. This led him to understand that not only do our personal names and the language they are spoken in highly affect our personalities but that the most important names are the names of God. This led Marko into a journey of thoroughly studying all the world's great religions. When he was introduced to the Bahai Faith he immediately became a believer. Literally days later Marko decided to take The Most Great Name of Bahaullah (prophet of the Bahai Faith) which is Abha and convert it into numbers. He did this in an effort to discover the true precise mystical intonation of The Most Great Name of God. Since the Bahai sacred scripture was originally written in Persian and Arabic Marko used the Abjad numerical notation system for this letter to number translation. This was a sacred system of allocating a unique numerical value to each letter of the 27 letters of the alphabet so that secret quantum mechanic physics could be encoded into words. What Marko discovered was that (A=1, b=2, h=5, a=1) = 9. The fact that The Most Great Name of God equaled 9 seemed very important to him as everything he had read in both the Bahai scriptures and other religious text spoke of nine being the omni-potent number. So next he drew out a circle with nine on top and 1 through 8 going around the circle clockwise. Then he discovered a very intriguing number system within this circle. Marko knew he had stumbled upon something very profound. This circle with its hidden number sequence was the "Symbol of Enlightenment." This is the MATHEMATICAL FINGER PRINT OF GOD.



posted on Feb, 4 2013 @ 03:32 PM
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Using pasta as a model, a team of researchers has developed twisted spectrum that could allow a “potentially infinite” number of channels to be broadcast simultaneously. They claim the technique saves bandwidth by encoding several channels on the same frequency using “radio vorticity.”


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What they found was completely unexpected — our DNA stores data like a computer’s memory system. Not only that, but our genetic code uses grammar rules and syntax in a way that closely mirrors human language!

They also found that even the structuring of DNA-alkaline pairs follows a regular grammar and has set rules. It appears that all human languages are simply verbalizations of our DNA.


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posted on Feb, 4 2013 @ 06:21 PM
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Vortex, helix, its all the same. As long as it remotely looks like a vortex, and it is used in actual science, it must mean Rodin is right. Where would those scientists be without Rodin.



posted on Feb, 4 2013 @ 06:48 PM
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Why stop at helices? You've got plenty of material to work with... On that note though:

Double Helix Nebula Near Center of the Milky Way

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Make yourself useful, and come up with an explanation.

I'll help you out a tad bit:

phys.org...


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posted on Feb, 4 2013 @ 07:00 PM
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Originally posted by Americanist
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Why stop at helices? You've got plenty of material to work with... On that note though:

Double Helix Nebula Near Center of the Milky Way

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Make yourself useful, and come up with an explanation.

I'll help you out a tad bit:

phys.org...


Ok so your post has absolutely nothing to do with the post from buddhasystem, nor to do with the topic of this thread. You just post some random stuff you find interesting. Or are you going to link this all to Rodin at one point?



posted on Feb, 4 2013 @ 07:36 PM
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Originally posted by sisoje
look since i first saw rodin's "vortex" math i had a intuitive feeling, that it is just a crippled nonary


You're talking about "Nonary"?


Nonary (also novemal) is a base-9 numeral system, typically using the digits 0-8, but not the digit 9.



posted on Feb, 4 2013 @ 08:28 PM
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Originally posted by -PLB-

Originally posted by Americanist
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Why stop at helices? You've got plenty of material to work with... On that note though:

Double Helix Nebula Near Center of the Milky Way

Thread

Make yourself useful, and come up with an explanation.

I'll help you out a tad bit:

phys.org...


Ok so your post has absolutely nothing to do with the post from buddhasystem, nor to do with the topic of this thread. You just post some random stuff you find interesting. Or are you going to link this all to Rodin at one point?


I think the only force we're lacking is being forced to spell things out for the factually challenged. Case in point:

Firstly,


This led him to understand that not only do our personal names and the language they are spoken in highly affect our personalities but that the most important names are the names of God.



Secondly,




What they found was completely unexpected — our DNA stores data like a computer’s memory system. Not only that, but our genetic code uses grammar rules and syntax in a way that closely mirrors human language! They also found that even the structuring of DNA-alkaline pairs follows a regular grammar and has set rules. It appears that all human languages are simply verbalizations of our DNA.


Do you at least grasp DNA to some extent? Wait, don't answer that. Your willful ignorance is truly alarming.



posted on Feb, 4 2013 @ 08:32 PM
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You know, I am really stupid. So could you please spell out how "personal names highly affect our personalities" is linked to "DNA stores data like a computer’s memory system"? I am really too stupid to grasp this, so please make it a slow and detailed explanation.



posted on Feb, 4 2013 @ 08:37 PM
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Buddhist Proverb: "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear."

People get Ready. This includes you. It may also include reading more than one paragraph.



posted on Feb, 4 2013 @ 08:39 PM
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Originally posted by Americanist


What they found was completely unexpected — our DNA stores data like a computer’s memory system. Not only that, but our genetic code uses grammar rules and syntax in a way that closely mirrors human language!

They also found that even the structuring of DNA-alkaline pairs follows a regular grammar and has set rules. It appears that all human languages are simply verbalizations of our DNA.


Read more: undergroundhealthreporter.com...


Oh great! You found that hilarious piece which is so brilliantly addressed on my favorite Skeptophilia page!


Every once in a while I'll run across a claim that is so wildly ridiculous that I question, for a time, if it is meant as a joke. Sadly, the majority of them aren't. As hard as it is for me to believe, given that we currently live in the most scientifically and technologically advanced society that the Earth has ever seen, there are a lot of people who believe stuff that is unrefined bull#.

I ran into an example a few days ago, when a friend sent me this article, entitled "Scientists Prove DNA Can Be Reprogrammed By Words And Frequencies." The word "frequency" always acts like a red flag to me, as it is for some reason a word woo-woos like a lot, and throw about in absurd ways despite its having a rigid, and not especially thrilling, definition in the scientific world (three others are "energy," "vibration," and "field").
........
And yes, this article appears to be entirely serious. As do the comments, the first one of which was, "This appears to be how Jesus performed miracles. The power of God is within us!" Because Jesus had lasers, and all.

I find all of this simultaneously hilarious and discouraging. Hilarious because the claims are so bafflingly stupid that I can't help but laugh when I read them; discouraging because there is, apparently, a large group of people who actually find them plausible. As a science teacher, we try to provide what Carl Sagan calls "a candle in the dark" -- a way of seeing the world that gets past superstition and credulity, and bases our knowledge instead on evidence, logic, and rationality. And to be sure, we've come a long way since the Dark Ages, when people believed that there were only four elements (earth, air, fire, and water) and frogs were spontaneously created from muddy water. When I read stuff like this, however, it makes me realize how far we still have to go.


Certain things in this idiotic "DNA language" link are just so... I seriously can't describe it, get this: they write that DNA follows the "grammar and syntax of human language"... I have a question: which one? Is it Russian, Hebrew, or Swahili? Maybe it's the language of Irish Travelers? Classical Greek?

Anyone who knows anything about languages understands full well just how the "grammar" and "syntax" vary across languages, even when these are from the same family. When it comes to different language families, differences are staggering. It takes an utter moron to suggest that DNA follows some uniform grammar of "human language". There is no one language.



posted on Feb, 4 2013 @ 08:42 PM
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it seems appropriate that a thread about vortexes should inspire such fractal wrongness



posted on Feb, 4 2013 @ 08:47 PM
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But there are vowel sounds, pretty much across the board.



posted on Feb, 4 2013 @ 08:49 PM
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Originally posted by Americanist
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But there are vowel sounds, pretty much across the board.


Written Hebrew rarely if ever has vowels. Besides, the presence of vowels doesn't mean anything in the context of some universal "grammar" or "syntax".



posted on Feb, 4 2013 @ 08:53 PM
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Originally posted by buddhasystem

Originally posted by Americanist
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But there are vowel sounds, pretty much across the board.


Written Hebrew rarely if ever has vowels. Besides, the presence of vowels doesn't mean anything in the context of some universal "grammar" or "syntax".


I've held to my guns this whole time you're far from omnipotence. And trust me, I'd go out shooting where you're concerned.



posted on Feb, 4 2013 @ 09:09 PM
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Wow, I don't know what to believe anymore... Your favorite Skeptophilia page or Piezoelectric energy harvesters. Tough call:




Piezoelectric energy harvesting is the process by which ambient mechanical energy such as stress, strain and vibration is converted into electricity by a piezoelectric material. Application uses range widely from harvesting energy from vibrations in vehicles to power sensors to using energy from pedestrian traffic to power localized lighting. Many suppliers of piezoeletrics for conventional applications such as sensors or sound generation are now leveraging their know-how and using piezoelectrics to create energy, opening up a large new opportunity for them.



www.energyharvestingjournal.com...


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