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Originally posted by FoxfilesMulder
reply to post by Byrd
Thanks for taking the time to reply in detail, was a good read!
Theres nothing I can do or say to prove one way or another but I do know through word of mouth etc these ancient relics don't end up in Australian museums because they would never be placed on display and are mostly in the hands of family hand me downs or private collectors.
Unless you approach these individual collectors or research their name and what they found, its hard to get any form of visual answer.
There is also a photo here of the Egyptian scarab found.
The “Gympie Ape” idol Egyptian God Thoth in ape form.
Originally posted by Byrd
Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
reply to post by Byrd
Totally off-topic, Byrd, but, my offer of marriage still stands
Take me, I'm all yours
Awwww! Will you take my hubby, too? We're kind of a matched set.
Current Research (as at 30th June 2003) Research to date has been limited to surface visuals by private researchers with a refusal of academia to participate on political grounds. Officially, the sites do not exist. Current controversy relative to Aboriginal land claims has the Government somewhat paranoid about a possible land claim by outsiders, relative to the overwhelming evidence being uncovered of such colonies in the BC era. Academia is strictly limited in its research to Aboriginal cultures. First brought to public awareness in 2000 by local researchers, the sites and evidence triggered off media hysteria with the facts distorted into fictions. Other sites, of course, relate and Sarina is not the epicenter but only part of the huge complex now being uncovered. The researchers fight guerrilla warfare against established dogmas and political censorship with no funding and laws that prohibit private excavation, removal of artifacts and investigation of wrecks.
The following report is from ABC News, Mackay, Queensland, Australia:
Ancient Queensland mine could change world history. The discovery of a 3,000 year old mine and harbour on the coast of central Queensland is set to change Australian, if not world history. “Resident Val Osborn has traced the remaining structures to the early mining endeavours of the Phoenicians around 1000 BC. “Mr Osborn, who has been closely guarding his discovery for four years, says the area’s rich mineral deposits attracted the Phoenicians to the northern Australian coast more than 2,700 years before Captain Cook. “Mr Osborn says the discovery at Freshwater Point, near the big coal ports south of Mackay, has attracted world scientific attention.. “It includes huge sea walls designed to allow exporting by sea. “’They were labour intensive, huge, the one at Sarina is some 800 metres long,’ he said. “’The harbour wall and the boulders are polished granite and they’re set in iron slag cement and copper slags. “’I mean it’s a monstrous thing. You could put three 200 foot ships end to end in there. It’s as calm as a mill pond and beautifully engineered.’ “Mr Osborn says the structures will be further dated when archaeologists visit Sarina. “ ‘We’ve got also a Phoenician bell temple and it’s typical and we’ve also got a cemetery and we’ll have to wait and see the archaeologist. “ ‘Nothing has been done yet, we’ve got various academics around the world interested in it of course; it’s changing world history.’” Val Osborne claims to have discovered the mine and harbour at Sarina, near Mackay, Queensland. It is reported that Mr Osborn discovered the site, including the jetty, while fishing. He believes he has discovered ancient artefacts, inscriptions and ruins dating to about 1000 BC. He says the mining complex at Freshwater Point is the size of 10 football fields and includes an 800 meter granite wall used by the Phoenicians as a loading jetty. “A half brick found is identical with pre-Roman measurements, which dates the site, and it’s inscribed in an ancient script by a stylus,” he said. “We have a bell temple, a cemetery and a boat harbor, which is typical of the Phoenician culture in that era.” If this find is Phoenician and if it dates to about 1000 BC, then it could be further evidence pointing to voyages by the Red sea fleet of King Solomon and Hiram of Tyre, mentioned in the Bible.
Originally posted by FoxfilesMulder
However, I still believe if ancient Egyptian people were not in Australia some thousands of years ago, then at the least - some ancient civilization was at some point.
With the Gympie ape statue found in Australia that we had discussed and the picture you showed me of a verified Thoth relic found in Egypt, I feel your picture is of the best case scenario when comparing the two.
The relic you showed could have been made from the countries top craftsman to be given to a Pharaoh and had to be the very best it could be.
The Gympie ape could have been made by a simple farmer for the purpose of honoring their God in private. The difference between Leonardo da Vinci and myself painting a picture.
How many years had they been there? Highly unlikely yet possibly 15,000 years perhaps. This along with the other relics found in Australia would be more than enough to make them look like not much at all.
While on the subject, I thought this picture here looked more like what the Gympie ape relic could have been made to look like. www.heritage-images.com...
An interesting quote from an article I read states:
Current Research (as at 30th June 2003) Research to date has been limited to surface visuals by private researchers with a refusal of academia to participate on political grounds. Officially, the sites do not exist. (snip) .... The researchers fight guerrilla warfare against established dogmas and political censorship with no funding and laws that prohibit private excavation, removal of artifacts and investigation of wrecks.
Ancient Queensland mine could change world history. The discovery of a 3,000 year old mine and harbour on the coast of central Queensland is set to change Australian, if not world history. “Resident Val Osborn has traced the remaining structures to the early mining endeavours of the Phoenicians around 1000 BC. “Mr Osborn, who has been closely guarding his discovery for four years, says the area’s rich mineral deposits attracted the Phoenicians to the northern Australian coast more than 2,700 years before Captain Cook. “Mr Osborn says the discovery at Freshwater Point, near the big coal ports south of Mackay, has attracted world scientific attention.
If you are interested further on the above topic I'll leave a URL related to the article on the above subject I found most interesting.
4. Moreover, the king built many ships in the Egyptian Bay of the Red Sea, in a certain place called Ezion-geber: it is now called Berenice, and is not far from the city Eloth. This country belonged formerly to the Jews, and became useful for shipping from the donations of Hiram king of Tyre; for he sent a sufficient number of men thither for pilots, and such as were skillful in navigation, to whom Solomon gave this command: That they should go along with his own stewards to the land that was of old called Ophir, but now the Aurea Chersonesus, which belongs to India, to fetch him gold.
Originally posted by PeoriaAZ
NO DOUBT...In 1909 I believe it was they found proof that the Egyptians had a secret tomb deep within the Grand Canyon as well which was also covered up one day after it made front page news
Canyonitis: Seeing evidence of ancient Egypt in the Grand Canyon
Is there, within the Grand Canyon, an enigmatic system of tunnels that is evidence of an ancient Egyptian voyage to America? Is it all bogus? Or is the truth most likely somewhere in between?
Originally posted by JohhnyBGood
reply to post by stumason
There seems to be just far to much of this type of ancient legend from all over the world to dismiss it as just nonesense - there is just huge amounts of evidence pointing to alien beings and technology being here prior to Egypt - if this is where the bloodline families originated that have ruled this planet ever since - it is no surprise that they will keep their origins from ever becoming common knowledge.
Around 3,000 BC there came to Ireland a people known racially as the Gaels and specifically as the Tuatha de Danaan (the tribe of the goddess Danu). The word Gael connotes “the pure ones.” They were reputed to be a tribe of powerful Druid-kings, possessed of giant stature, great physical strength and weapons and instruments of “magical” power. They declared that they had come from four islands (Falias, Murias, Finias, and Gorias) in the Atlantic that had been destroyed in a deluge caused by the misuse of “magic.” The High King of the Gaels was, suggestively, called Nuada (pronounced Nuah, like Noah). Upon their arrival they made for the west country and after meeting with the ambassadors of the indigenous Iberians, they made war. The de Danaan were victorious but during the conflict Nuada’s arm was cut off. As a result he had to abdicate from the throne, for it was said that none that were “blemished” in any way could rule over the Gaels (an edict which has interesting connotations concerning genetic purity). Later the de Danaan physician fashioned and knit to his king’s body what is rather abstrusely described as a “silver arm.” A few suspect that what lies behind this tale is cybernetics technology for it is speculated that the de Danaan came from Atlantis. The kings and their consorts ruled from Derry in the north where the burial cairn of Nuada still stands. Derry comes from a word meaning Druids. Of the many strange treasures in their possession the de Danaans had four of especial importance. These are a sword, a lance, a chalice or cauldron, and a stone, called the Lia Fail (Stone of Destiny) which could speak. It is thought that these are the prototypes for the suits of the Tarot and of regular gaming cards. It was recorded of this Lance of Lugh that it shook so violently and radiated such heat that those who went anywhere near it would have their hair and fingernails drop off and themselves finally reduced to a heap of ash.