Changes is Astrology

changes in astrology

I have been looking at the 13th sign for thirty years.
What follows is advice for those who still wish
to use astrology and cut through confusion.

I am not into astrology, rather I favor
astronomy and it is in that sense
that I offer these suggestions.


David Grouchy

Determine my birth star

Instead of all the confusing and arbitrary stuff about constellations and houses, download an astronomy program and determine your own birth star.

Constellations and/or houses are man made constructs grafted on top of clusters of individual stars. As redshift shows many of the stars that are considered in the same sign can be farther away from each other than they are from the stars in adjacent signs.

The signs and houses are poor science, determining the position of an individual star is not.

This is how I do it.

Download an astronomy program.
Input the latitude and longitude of where I was born.
Input the year, month, day, hour, and minute I was born.
Look due east.
The lowest star on the horizon is the one that just popped up the minute I was born
[color=gold]That is my birth star

Odds are that that star is within the constellation of the sign I was born under. Or at least it will be very near to it. Additionally people born very far north or south may find that their birth star is above or below the given zodiac signs.

This is the only way to determine one's real sign.

For Instance my birth Stars are Procyon and Sirius, as they both popped up above the horizon at the moment of my Birth. Officially I am a Gemini (born June 9th), but that constellation was a little bit north from due East of where I was born. But as the Stellarium program shows, the sun is actually in Taurus. Also this happened during Daytime locally so none of it was visible at the moment anyway. Like the fact that Mercury was Directly over Jupiter at the moment, and both in the house of Gemini.

The information that most Astrologers are using is woefully out of date, and narrowly confined to the classical band of civilization along the temperate zone of the northern hemisphere.

Armed with my birth Star I have been able to cut through a lot of the confusion surrounding Astrology.

Hope that helps.

Depending on which astrology you follow it has not changed.
The most common has not been affected at all. However, sidereel has because it is according to the constellations and not the sun/seasons.

Originally posted by Bones_
Depending on which astrology you follow it has not changed.
The most common has not been affected at all. However, sidereel has because it is according to the constellations and not the sun/seasons.

Exactly.

Hopefully this will help anyone
who is feeling any consternation
about the whole thing, and maybe
some day astrologers will update their readings.


David Grouchy

Thanks David Grouchy!

I did that with Stellarium.

Birth Star is Venus with Mars directly above with Venus in the constellation Virgo.

All my life I have been classed as a Libra, with this "new" setup I am a Virgo.

I am lovely, desirable, warlike and virginal. Yup.

I just got a harsh U2U stating
that one's birth star should be the one closest to the sun.

There may be some truth to this,
but all I can say is that it depends on what kind of
astrology one is using.


David Grouchy

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I'm going to be sticking to the same ol' same ol'. I mean, it's usually pretty right on! Being an aquarius on the cusp of a pisces, it can cause me trouble but suits my personality better than an aquarius on the cusp of a capricorn!

Originally posted by berkeleygal
Birth Star is Venus with Mars directly above with Venus in the constellation Virgo.

I'm thinking that that must be pretty rare.
To have an actual planet pop up over the horizon
at the exact moment one is born.

Kinda awesome.


David Grouchy

Originally posted by Bones_
I'm going to be sticking to the same ol' same ol'. I mean, it's usually pretty right on! Being an aquarius on the cusp of a pisces, it can cause me trouble but suits my personality better than an aquarius on the cusp of a capricorn!

If astrology was a car,
I say drive what suits you best.

I am curious though, have you looked
at the constellations from the moment of birth
in an astronomy picture?

If not, then I'll share with you what an old Vietnamese man told me about Astrology.

After expressing an interest in Astrology
he said "Oh, you interested in Astrology?
you must be interested in you sex life."

[accent intended]


David Grouchy

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haha well I will check it out
So much left to learn about it all

reply to post by SirKnightE


Interesting video.

I'm disappointed that there is no comment to go with it though.

I have done a huge volume of research on the Mesoamericans,
and I can say with some certainty that the people in this video
are speaking from a woefully ethnocentric point of view.
Phrases like "finish line" and "end point" do not have
any currency in those ancient religions.

Perhaps this is a discussion for another thread.
I have refrained from posting in any 2012 threads
for my entire tenure here at ATS until such a moment
that one of a more "indian" perspective is made, so as to
avoid derailing anyone elses discussion.

I did make some posts explaining how Niburu means
Noon in ancient Sumarian though. My only post
to a 2012 thread to date. Since then others
have found more scholarly evidence to
back this up and all the threads on
2012 + Niburu have ceased.


David Grouchy