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posted on Jan, 15 2011 @ 12:31 AM
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can you elaborate more on the differences between the Mayan and Gregorian calendar?

it's a little over my head at this time and i'm very interested in the subject




posted on Jan, 15 2011 @ 01:37 AM
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I was born on 12/ 12/ 1958
hubby on 03/ 03/ 1956

1+9+5+8= the number 23 and NOW I find out I am a snake-slingin' Ophiuchus!!

OH NOES!! I AM THE ANTI_CHRIST! RUUUUUUUUUUN!!



posted on Jan, 15 2011 @ 01:42 AM
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Originally posted by TedHodgson
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Im a Mason and this Date seems to have No significance to me whatsoever


Then again people will probably tell me im Not High-Up enough to understand its significance even if it was significant


i must not be high enough either as this date does not sound like anything i have ever heard at lodge. although its crazy how much has happened on this date through out history.



posted on Jan, 15 2011 @ 03:38 AM
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In regards to the Mayan, and an interesting tie in to all of the hubbub all of a sudden in the msm about the "new" 13th Zodiac sign:


To begin, both the Traditional Mayan Calendar (known as Cholq'ij) and the Dreamspell offer a 260-day calendar. This count of 260 energies is generated from the 13 numbers in concert with the 20 glyphs (13 X 20 = 260), originated through the Olmec/Maya of ancient Mesoamerica. Undoubtedly, we recognize the "Classic Maya" and their astounding pyramid complexes as embodying a profound mastery of the science of Time which surpasses all other civilizations. In essence, the knowlege of the sacred ratio 13:20 which governs all of Creation is ancient knowledge held by the Maya and their magnificent culture which survives to this day. Dr. Jose Arguelles and Lloydine Arguelles (co-authors of the Dreamspell) entered into this essential cosmic knowledge and discovered a modern application of the 13:20, imparting a distinct form and function from the Cholq'ij, as a remedy for the westernized mind that has been unconsciously adhering to a paradigm where time is erroneously understood to = money; one which sets us apart from the natural order of the Biosphere. This new revelation of the powers of the 13:20 matrix came to be called the Law of Time, and the subsequent Dreamspell calendar system they presented to us is specifically for those of us living in a modern world that is, by its very design, founded on an artificial timing frequency. The purpose of this system is to assist us in discovering our harmonious potential to live in accord with the natural timing frequency of the Universe in which Time is understood as the Universal Frequency of Synchronization. With great respect and gratitude to the Maya for bestowing this jewel - this master key of the knowledge of 13:20, we would like to publicly clarify that the form of the 260-unit Harmonic Module (Tzolkin) as presented in the Dreamspell/Wizard's count of this 13-moon Calendar is indeed a modern application of ancient science, and is DISTINCT from the form of the 260-day count that the living Maya in Guatemala and surrounding areas utilize. In fact, the 13-Moon Dreamspell calendar should not be understood to be "The Mayan Calendar." Not only are there actually 20 calendars which make up the Mayan Calendar System, but moreso because the 260-day calendar as the Maya use it today follows a distinct daycount as a sacred heritage of their culture - one that is keeping the Long Count of days; the count of "13 Baktuns" (3113 BC-2012 AD) and it would be misrepresenting the Maya culture to not make a clear distinction.


As far as the Gregorian calendar goes, that obvious on an exoteric level. we have 12 months in a year, 60 minutes in an hour, 60 seconds in a minute, 12 hours in half a day, On an esoteric level it's a vibration of control and sleep. 13:20 is where it's at in regards to awakening consciousness.



posted on Jan, 15 2011 @ 04:33 AM
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Here's another example of dates and numbers and number puzzles from an analysis I did of the recent events in Tucson (9/11 is not too far away from 9/15)



It is, I believe, significant that the 9 yr old girl was born on 9/11/01 and Loughner was born 9/10/88, 13 years and 1 day apart (13+1)...The numerology of the shooting is another aspect not only represented in the 9/11 connection in the birthdays and in this communique (really, what are the chances that the Faces of Hope girl would get shot?) but right through to the ages of the 6 that died, all occult numbers:9, 30, 76 (7+6=13), 79 (reduces down to 7, also 9 is an inverted 6), 76 (another 13), and 63(6+3=9). Then there is the number of wounded: 13 (wounded in the attack)+1 (wounded by shrapnel) or 13 innocent bystanders+1 (Giffords) that gets non-stop press attention as the focus of the attack. The date 1/8/2011 is a 13 day (1+8+2+1+1=13) The only reports I can find say it happened shortly after 10am, I suspect it was 10:03 (13 separated by 0:0.) Christina's memorial was held on 1/11/11 (a 7 day, 119 (911 inverted) days into her 10th year) and her funeral was on 1/13/11 (a 9 day). Loughner was 120 (1+2=3) days into his 23rd year (otherwise known as 22.) An overall crowd of 20-30 people was reported. He fired 15 to 20 shots from a 9mm with a 30 round magazine. The same numbers over and over again, The fact that there are 13 lines of this first segment (13+1) and 13 stripes in the flag featured in lines 1-5 as presumably he was talking about the American flag (he is after all an American citizen) begs coincidence to sit down.
This took longer than expected so you will have to wait for part 2 which is much more densely packed with symbolism (10 lines, 13+10, or 13+1, a poem in 2 segments.) ...And, thanks to Rushunt for drawing attention to the 333 and 99 as well as -45 degrees (4+5=9 and – indicates a number inversion-using the negative aspects of the number) to go along with the other number correlations.


www.abovetopsecret.com...

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posted on Jan, 15 2011 @ 07:59 AM
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The number you mention, 132 is another Solfeggio difference, between 285 and 417. Tesla mentions the power of the thirds, sixths and ninths, maybe the 132 difference is a 'third' maybe 213 is a 'sixth'... They're irregular differences in the solfeggio numbers, normally its 111 and 222 that are noticeable.
Just wait 'til you work out the shocker that's happening with gold and silver!

Honestly, when you start unravelling this stuff it comes thick and fast... I thought i was going crazy over Christmas, coincidence after coincidence.... culminated in me going for a walk on Christmas Eve and ending up saying a prayer in the middle of a huge stone circle I'd never seen before. Saw two ufo's appear and move across the sky later that night - maybe they heard me? Maybe I AM crazy. But lots of other stuff has happened too.

Also, I know this sounds weird, but look for sequences like 1,2,3,4,5 etc, not necessarily in that order, but obvious enough to spot, these have shown me i'm on the right path more than once. Also been seeing 222 for years now but that's another story.

This is fun



ps. has anyone thought about how they built the pyramids? There's a thread on here about nan madol - it says the city was built by a powerful wizard using sounds of varying pitch. I've heard stories and seen old pictures and drawings of a box that I reckon generates and amplifies the solfeggio frequencies required to do this...

If you do a search on youtube for 'levitation with sound' you'll see a snippet of what these frequencies can do. Just need to design a box that will project the frequency outside of it and there we have it...

Any boffins care to venture a design??
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posted on Jan, 15 2011 @ 11:25 AM
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I knew you and I were "on the same frequency". I had an experience with 2 ufo's in mid December and been more interested in Tesla lately. I also have had thick and fast coincidence and revelation, especially when it comes to this kind of thing and geometries. The selfeggio tones were, surprisingly, nothing I had really studied before, but they tie in nicely with other things I've learned about sound and vibration. Funny about the pyramids too, I contributed a post to a thread on the megaliths (Pyramids, Baalbek, Stonehenge) talking about the very same thing, in integration with use of the ley lines and a different understanding of how these were built with levitation, I used the Coral Castle as a modern example of that. The piece that I quoted talked about Tibetans and their use of sound vibration for the very same thing. It just occurred to me in regards to the coral castle, what if the alignment of certain stars with certain points on the earths ley line grid create solfeggio resonances that merely need to be harnessed and amplified to be able to levitate huge blocks of stone? So, either you are an agent provacatuer trying to draw me out, or you and I have been on on the same wavelength for the last several months. Either way I like how you are stimulating my thinking process.



posted on Jan, 15 2011 @ 01:59 PM
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Ha check the numbers by our stats haha - I've obviously changed my post count to 34 by posting this but there are those numbers again, you're on 213.

I'm no agent provocateur so don't worry. Talking about words and numbers though, Lou Minotti?
Ha ha I wonder...

Anyways you got me thinking about the ley lines and stone circles again now.
A little while back I was looking at this and a series of 'coincidences' led me to discover the closest existing old stone circle to where I live is at Cheetham Cross, just off the A666 (i'm in UK). Then I discovered there used to be one atop Winter Hill near where I live (there're some really interesting stories about this place if you look hard enough on the net). Totally unrelated and unresearched was the circle I ended up in on Christmas Eve, my feet just took me there (was visiting a friend in Warrington and was on my way to the shop).

That was a weird night - lots of strange references in Coronation Street (i was humouring someone by watching this - the only TV I do is the Keiser Report on RT). Notice the baubels on the tree at the breaks and the inferred antichrist returning in the form of Tracy.

Plus I decided to stay awake - I knew something wasn't right. What's an anagram of Santa?? I won't relate what happened when I almost fell asleep.

If you read the bible: Jesus - light of the world etc...all references to the Sun and sungazing - is it possible?
Now look for any news on nuclear FUSION. An artificial sun? Antichrist anyone? Hmmmm.......



posted on Jan, 15 2011 @ 03:39 PM
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Hee hee, funny about the numbers. I caught the name too, either an AP or a kid playing word games. There is a lot of good stuff out there about Jesus as a sun god (sun of god), I always thought the similarities with Krishna and Mithras were among the more interesting correspondences that way. And sungazing, I'm not currently doing it, but have enough in the past- it is a powerful meditation. Part of it's power as a meditation is the direct line between the eyes and the pineal gland via the suprachiasmatic nucleus' direct connection with the retina. You've got a direct line to those stone circles, not so many of those in the States. All of those would be built on ley lines. It's interesting when you connect the stone circles and megaliths with lines on the map,especially when you do it with foreknowledge of where the lines on the grid are. Interesting take on the antichrist.



posted on Jan, 15 2011 @ 04:15 PM
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Here is the answer:

The Magic square of 15 includes 9 boxes like a crossword puzzle. It goes diagonal, horizontal and vertical. Each box is given a number and each three groups of numbers has to equal 15.

There are many occult aspects to this I won’t go into at this point; but if anyone wants more just write me a note I will provide the source.

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posted on Jan, 15 2011 @ 05:33 PM
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That's how I found Cheetham Cross - using an old 60's stone circle survey with a leyline map

I know some of my ideas are a bit out-there (heck i'm still in the process of waking family and friends to the obvious ones) but its good to be able to share in a constructive environment like this, I find it inspiring.

I would be interested in seeing just how close a wavelength we're on - different sides of the Atlantic - do you have a picture in your mind of how I look? Obviously u2u if you'd rather but that's less fun for everyone else if we're wrong - I don't mind going first. Anyway I've deleted my Facebook account (about a month ago - it felt great) so I know there aren't any pics of me knocking around so there's no chance of cheating. I'm on a voyage of self-discovery at the moment and am as such open to many notions and concepts so please don't think I'm daft - telepathy and remote viewing are of special interest to me right now (I've just seen 'The Men Who Stare at Goats' www.bbc.co.uk... ...great film) also Mo pai Neikung and working with Qi (John Chang is the man) www.youtube.com...

Anyway, magic squares.
www.mathematische-basteleien.de...
There is something in this. I've thought about it and logically extended the 3x3 grid outwards. 81 sprung to mind (9x9) - so I looked it up and there it is the Moon Magic Square...
altreligion.about.com...
So if there's a Moon Magic Square there must be a....
yes that's right, a Sun Magic Square.
www.jesus8880.com...
(Whoa...is this why I've been seeing 222 everywhere? The way all that stuff started is an interesting tale in itself.)

Look at some of the numbers mentioned in conjunction to these squares - possible Solfeggio connections?
I've literally only just started with these (thanks inforeal).

So...could this tie in with your findings on leylines, power grids, ancient civilizations and their building techniques (and the thought you mentioned you had about the involvement of the sun and moon)? I think so. I think we may be being handed some important frequencies here.

Feels like we're on the cusp, God I love it when an idea comes together


ps. this should be re-threaded it's far too interesting for just us few present to be on this.
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posted on Jan, 15 2011 @ 08:34 PM
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Maybe it isn't so much the number, but some other aspect that matters? Like maybe the phase of the moon or something like that?

*shrug*

Just a thought?



posted on Jan, 15 2011 @ 09:37 PM
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could be I really don't know - it all seems possible - personally I think the numbers do hold a great significance and that someone is bound to figure this all out very soon indeed...



posted on Jan, 15 2011 @ 09:41 PM
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Originally posted by iamahumandoing
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could be I really don't know - it all seems possible - personally I think the numbers do hold a great significance and that someone is bound to figure this all out very soon indeed...


Oh, I agree that numbers are a big deal. Numerology is big business in the occult and mystic circles. I'm just wondering if we are limiting the connections by only thinking of the numbers or date.



posted on Jan, 15 2011 @ 09:46 PM
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Thinking about it what you're saying makes sense.
The further back we look from and the bigger the picture we look at - the more we will see.
I'm with you there


Haha now you've got me thinking again...
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posted on Jan, 15 2011 @ 10:17 PM
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Magic squares are fun, I need to look at yours closer to comment on it more intelligently. As for you-I have 2 different images in my head.

Either way you are in your mid 20's, attractive but not egotistical about it, kind of plain and simple-but by choice. Intelligent and serious but playful and light is your normal state. Kind and generous, you probably do something for work or volunteer in a place that allows you to help and interact with others or something completely opposite like working in the back room at a library or something. Kind of quiet most of the time but can be boisterous when you are feeling playful.

Here's where it diverges: if you are female (which I'm kind of leaning towards) you are blond with shoulder length hair and a light complexion (but not pale), mid 5 foot range, average weight. If male, more darkly complected, Spanish extraction possibly, shorter, moppier haiir, same height and weight.

How close am I?



posted on Jan, 15 2011 @ 10:33 PM
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Ooh you're very close...
You described my personality and dress sense better than I could've. Height and weight correct too. I'm a 25 year old guy, I'm not too bad looking but I really hate saying that it seems to connect me to everything I used to be. The charity thing is something i've been looking into in-depth very recently. I've got v.short hair and stubble. Not Spanish though I'm Caucasian with fair-medium complexion.
Interesting about the hair observation though, I was scrying not three days ago and 'I' appeared with hair as you described.


As for you, not sure but I imagined you to be female, mid 30's to 40. Caucasian with a fair-medium complexion and shoulder-length light brown hair. Green eyes? I bet I'm way off haha.

Whoa, just had the hugest deja-vu.

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posted on Jan, 15 2011 @ 10:38 PM
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Ooo....that's cool! Can you do me???
How do you do that?



posted on Jan, 15 2011 @ 10:55 PM
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As for you, not sure but I imagined you to be female, mid 30's to 40. Caucasian with a fair-medium complexion and shoulder-length light brown hair. Green eyes? I bet I'm way off haha.


You should give yourself more credit (something I suspect you need to work on. Also, as I was writing that, my computer download said 3 minutes, 33 seconds remaining.) I'm actually a guy (and am straight) but am heavier in my feminine energies than I am in my masculine-though that is balancing. I'm 38yo, right on with the complexion. My hair is quite a bit shorter (#2 clipper guard except on top) but the color is very close-kind of a dirty blond/light brown. And yes, ding ding ding...green eyes. So, all in all not bad, the only thing you were far off on was the hair length. Fun game.



posted on Jan, 15 2011 @ 11:21 PM
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I kind of feel bad since this line of inquest has nothing to do with September 15, so I'll have to add at the beginning here that I think you are correct about the astrological aspects. Astrology has never been one of my topics of deep study, but I know enough about the topic to know that you are onto something (though more likely as astrological alignment as opposed to a moon phase.) The other thing is that it is likely a auspicious conjunction of numerology and astrology (along with possible other aspects.) The point with all of the talk about the selfeggio tones and number games is that ritualistic dates and codings are very densely packed and draw from a breadth of spiritual art. To think that you can only look at one aspect of it while decoding what it means and still understand it is naive at best.



Can you do me??? How do you do that?


I'm not sure, lets see. As to how, and why I'm not sure, part of it was in developing an energetic connection with him through the communication we've had in this thread, I haven't had the same level of interaction with you. The other part of it is just tuning in to your energy, listening, and trusting what comes to the fore.


You are a guy, either early 20's (20, 21) or early 30's (30, 31). You fancy yourself a revolutionary but if you're honest with yourself, it's more just rebelliousness. You have a cynical streak but are drawn to gaining knowledge, especially about the spiritual. You work with your hands and enjoy what you do. You tell it like it is to people you are comfortable with and can be blunt but you always temper it with kindness. I see you as dark complected too, but not dark enough to obscure a tattoo or two. Your hair is black and longer (or you like wearing hoodies.) How close?




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