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Witch Hunt: FBI Visiting Conservative Bloggers After Tucson Shootings

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posted on Jan, 14 2011 @ 12:26 PM
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Witch Hunt: FBI Visiting Conservative Bloggers After Tucson Shootings






We can add another victim to the Tucson tragedy – the right to criticize government without fear of getting a knock on your door from the feds. Despite the fact that shooter Jared Loughner was not politically motivated, the FBI is now compiling a list of Americans deemed a potential threat because they criticized their representative – and targeting them with home visits.


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In yet another OUTRAGEOUS example of the governments push toward making the people afraid to criticize their representatives or peacefully address grievances through the press the government is using East German style intimidation tactics to compile lists and knock on peoples doors.




posted on Jan, 14 2011 @ 12:28 PM
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Fbi does this all over the world. Even if you never commit a crime or goto america and never want too. Just thinking bad stuff about america, will have these people possibly out to destroy your life.



posted on Jan, 14 2011 @ 03:23 PM
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They updated the article to say gun owners too.



posted on Jan, 14 2011 @ 04:33 PM
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I couldn't help notice the Infowars Irony. In the interview, the blogger (hero of the story) says "Violence is no way to engage in the American Political process" Check out the ads on right.




This is more of an observation on Infowars than the story in OP. My .02¢


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posted on Jan, 14 2011 @ 04:41 PM
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Originally posted by EssenSieMich

Witch Hunt: FBI Visiting Conservative Bloggers After Tucson Shootings




...the FBI is now compiling a list of Americans deemed a potential threat because they criticized their representative – and targeting them with home visits.


Would this not also include liberal bloggers that criticized their representatives? How about independents? Alex Jones is clearly slanting this to make it appear as though this is an attack exclusively on conservatives.
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posted on Jan, 14 2011 @ 04:46 PM
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I have never had any guns, but i live in london.

Trust me they do this all over the world, if someone rings up this country and a agency they will persue the lead, and if they hate you can do alot of things to you. Sick, fbi is worldwide thing.

I have never wanted to goto america, and have never had any weapons, and i live in london. Too bad for them i have never commited a crime, the peopel i went to school with just wanted to use them to effectively kill me. Nice killers for hire, which is supposed to be police. the bit i do not get is, i never wanted to goto america ever. I have been passive all my life, and always on these boards state that people should never do anything. Do you americans know the word passive, and how males can be passive?

These are things because of the patriot act that usa police will do worldwide, and like in my case for no reason, other than you may think america are a bunch of murderers, which is a fact.

Amazing.
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posted on Jan, 14 2011 @ 04:50 PM
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Governments all over the world have their lists of subversives, mostly composed of people who criticize the Government and policies.

Occassionally, they might get a visit from the police.

Nothing new here.



posted on Jan, 14 2011 @ 04:56 PM
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Whats new is the patriot act, the fbi can do the stuff they do all over the world. So like my case they get info made up by someone, and you never want to goto america and they still go after you.

Plus by the way for the fbi, i have never been in no army plus i have never driven a car in my life. The person you brought round to see me, wanted to destroy my life, so you paid her money as well, cheers. Your such nice people, organising murder in effect for people i went to school with. You fbi where used by these scum to try and kill my life, and you paid the people as well, amazing. lus get your info straight.

I say again, i have never driven a car, and i have never been in the army.
I have never ever had any weapons, plus i have been passive all my life, do you americans know there is a thing as passive males. This means i am a male that does not have interest in violence, get it.
I say again i never even wanted to goto america.

For mods this is on topic, as the fbi made up all this rubbish to target my life, and i am putting my things straight here. You where used get it.
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posted on Jan, 14 2011 @ 08:29 PM
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I think it depends on what these people are blogging. If they are blogging about violently overthrowing the government or shooting their representatives or hanging the president, then YES the FBI should be investigating these people.

If they are blogging about how they don't like taxes and how they don't like overblown government spending, eh, probably nothing to worry about.

Depends on the context I say.

But, na, let's just wait till the next tragedy to figure out why the authorities didn't do something about it when all the warning signs were there in plain view.



posted on Jan, 14 2011 @ 09:08 PM
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I'm embarrassed that Alex Jones is a fellow Chicago Bears fan.

And I agree with Aggie Man...this article was only to throw coal on the Conservative fear train.



posted on Jan, 14 2011 @ 09:22 PM
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Them communists are every wear!

Jack boots on the necks of liberties,

2nd ammendment remedies refers to a person who took a number two because they ate to much Mexi!

But noooo, them libral elites make it sound as if we was talking about guns and succeeding -

We need to refutiate the socialists and maoist, Americas long history of history is historic!

Obama is gonna blow up america and give it to Osama bin Laden, socialist make sausages our of sick
people when they are coming back from the death panels!



posted on Jan, 14 2011 @ 09:39 PM
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I have no idea why but the Threes Company theme song just popped in my head!!!
Come and knock on our door.....
We've been waiting for you......



posted on Jan, 14 2011 @ 10:35 PM
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They need to also focus on the radical left "out there" ... Calling for violence against Sarah Palin and right-wing talk radio personalities among others.

I swear, people are losing their minds on both sides.

Maybe they will all find ways to eliminate each other and sanity can rule the USA?




posted on Jan, 15 2011 @ 01:49 AM
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I think they should, radical elements of our society on either side of the political aisle should not be tolerated.



posted on Jan, 15 2011 @ 02:41 AM
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Exactly what are they going to find out when they visit? No one is going to admit they plan violence (Even in the current attacks, they guy knew to keep it from his parents).

This isn't to prevent violence. It's to instill fear into the average person about speaking out. It's a shame the agency who is supposed to protect civil rights, the Department of Justice, seems to be the main agency violating them.



posted on Jan, 15 2011 @ 08:50 AM
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Whoever is referring this as a "Witch hunt" seriously needs to have their heads examined because what side is calling for "blood libels", American's to arm up? That's right, the GOP and the entire right wing so to label this a witch hunt means you condone actions like this and want to see them escalated.

Seriously, this is why people will never know beyond what is already written for them. Stupid people!

This has absolutely nothing to do with keeping the "Campaign of Fear" up as it has everything to do with a sitting member of The United States House Of Representatives sitting laid up in a hospital room as we speak and to try to enable to Govt to identify the next logical and potential threat so that they can be dealt with and shut down before they become hostile.

US DHS report memo from Spring 09 warning of the rise of radical right wing extremitism :
(Courtesy US Dept Of Homeland Security)
www.dhs.gov...

That report was from Apr 2009 and here it is Jan 2011 and as a direct result of this the Tea Baggers are on the scene as well as a member of Congress is in the hospital. I would say that this little intel operation currently underway by The FBI and DHS is warranted and needed and should've been done last yr and the yr before that perhaps they could've shut down Loughner and all right wing Nazi's down.

With my extensive knowledge on how the inner workings of Govt really work I can assure each and every person the following that as long all are being adhered to that the FBI, CIA, NSA, DHS, DOJ will not have a reason for busting down your front door :

1. Do not promote, condone violence against both the nation, her people and her elected officials!
2. Dedicate your life to making others lives better.
3. Dedicate your free time lifting up and taking care of your community.
4. Lend a hand whenever possible.
5. Protect and preserve people using non violent means.
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posted on Jan, 15 2011 @ 09:05 AM
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Originally posted by Daughter2
Exactly what are they going to find out when they visit? No one is going to admit they plan violence (Even in the current attacks, they guy knew to keep it from his parents).

This isn't to prevent violence. It's to instill fear into the average person about speaking out. It's a shame the agency who is supposed to protect civil rights, the Department of Justice, seems to be the main agency violating them.





The way the system and search criteria is designed and written is that you don't have to type in plain english in a Craigslist style ad saying : "Hi there, I am looking to recruit some able bodied gun owners in my plot to kill a congressperson!", they will use codewords and codephrases to identify threats and to determine who is legit and who is not.

An example of a codephrase would be "Are you sick of how things in Washington are going?" "Do you not like Obama and the Democrats?" "Do taxpayer money being spent on things like abortion anger you?" Neither one of the previous 3 questions directly targets any particular person but does target one particular ideaology or thinking. Subtle phrases and key words strategically placed tells the intent.
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posted on Jan, 15 2011 @ 09:41 AM
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I didnt know there was two sides among our leaders, you cant tell it by there voting record, they just tell you what you want to hear till you grow feed up with one "side" and vote in the other...........which will continue the very same policies.......patriot act, war on terrorism and drugs, useless wars............all with a littl song and dance over BS to keep you distracted...........stright Sun Tzu.........and a 1000 years later people still fall for it............open your eyes and quit playing their game



posted on Jan, 15 2011 @ 10:12 AM
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what side is calling for "blood libels", American's to arm up?


Actually if you watched the video she was accusing the left of "blood libel." She was not calling for blood libel. Also take aim and reload does not mean go out and kill. It means get prepared to go out and work to take back certain congressional districts. Of course paying attention and finding out what people are actually saying doesn't make for good tv. It might actually show some sense of decorum and education. We know nobody in the MSM, on either side, is capable of that. Too bad the average American is losing the ability to think critically or do their own research.




US DHS report memo from Spring 09 warning of the rise of radical right wing extremitism :


Of course it would fit if the guy had been politically motivated. However, none of his ramblings had anything to do with conservative rhetoric. They were not anti-democrat either. Even his high school "friends" came out and sai he was apolitical. He didn't watch tv news or conservative talking heads. To him it was not about a right and left paradigm.




With my extensive knowledge on how the inner workings of Govt really work I can assure each and every person the following that as long all are being adhered to that the FBI, CIA, NSA, DHS, DOJ will not have a reason for busting down your front door :

1. Do not promote, condone violence against both the nation, her people and her elected officials!
2. Dedicate your life to making others lives better.
3. Dedicate your free time lifting up and taking care of your community.
4. Lend a hand whenever possible.
5. Protect and preserve people using non violent means.


You know you just listed Dr. Martin Luther King JR. Yet the FBI followed him around and kept secret files on him. They tried to destroy his marriage with allegations of infidelity. They tried to paint him as a communist. They went to extremes to discredit him. All at the order of the DOJ and J. Edgar Hoover.

The FBI had secret files on Albert Einstein. One of the world's greatest scientist and a pacifist.

Do some research on COINTELPRO and the Churh Committee findings. I'll post their conclusion for you.


Too many people have been spied upon by too many Government agencies and too much information has been collected. The Government has often undertaken the secret surveillance of citizens on the basis of their political beliefs, even when those beliefs posed no threat of violence or illegal acts on behalf of a hostile foreign power. The Government, operating primarily through secret informants, but also using other intrusive techniques such as wiretaps, microphone "bugs", surreptitious mail opening, and break-ins, has swept in vast amounts of information about the personal lives, views, and associations of American citizens. Investigations of groups deemed potentially dangerous -- and even of groups suspected of associating with potentially dangerous organizations -- have continued for decades, despite the fact that those groups did not engage in unlawful activity.

Groups and individuals have been harassed and disrupted because of their political views and their lifestyles. Investigations have been based upon vague standards whose breadth made excessive collection inevitable. Unsavory and vicious tactics have been employed -- including anonymous attempts to break up marriages, disrupt meetings, ostracize persons from their professions, and provoke target groups into rivalries that might result in deaths. Intelligence agencies have served the political and personal objectives of presidents and other high officials. While the agencies often committed excesses in response to pressure from high officials in the Executive branch and Congress, they also occasionally initiated improper activities and then concealed them from officials whom they had a duty to inform.

Governmental officials -- including those whose principal duty is to enforce the law --have violated or ignored the law over long periods of time and have advocated and defended their right to break the law.
The Constitutional system of checks and balances has not adequately controlled intelligence activities. Until recently the Executive branch has neither delineated the scope of permissible activities nor established procedures for supervising intelligence agencies. Congress has failed to exercise sufficient oversight, seldom questioning the use to which its appropriations were being put. Most domestic intelligence issues have not reached the courts, and in those cases when they have reached the courts, the judiciary has been reluctant to grapple with them.[40][41]




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