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People who committ mass murder or kill famous people should have their identities erased from histor

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posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 11:46 PM
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I have always been saddened when newspapers publish the names of people who have either killed famous people, like John Lennon, or people who go on random murder sprees such as Columbine. One of the reasons, especially with those who go after famous people, is to make a name for themselves. We should take that power away from them. I say if you murder someone famous or go on a random murder spree your name will be stricken from all public record.

I am sickened that monsters such as Mark David Chapman,Eric Harris, and Dylan Klebold should forever be remembered. If we were to announce that killer's names would not be publisized then that might contribute to a lowering of such tragic things happening.

Surely in today's world there must be a way to acheive such a thing. Or do you think it's a stupid idea to begin with? I would welcome all comments in this matter. What do you think? Do you have other ideas or suggestions that might contribute in a decline to this social behavior?




posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 11:52 PM
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If you don't understand history you will repeat it.

I don't think anything should be wiped from history, no matter how grim, gory, or ungainly it may be. People can deal with anything you throw at them, and if they can't it is their own fault.

Besides, nobody is all bad. There is some good to come out of even the worst of times and souls.

I mean, I understand your point but people are what people are. I don't think there's much you can do to quell the numbers of these events. They've always happened and always will.
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posted on Jan, 14 2011 @ 12:10 AM
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Originally posted by Mr Headshot
If you don't understand history you will repeat it.

I don't think anything should be wiped from history, no matter how grim, gory, or ungainly it may be. People can deal with anything you throw at them, and if they can't it is their own fault.

Besides, nobody is all bad. There is some good to come out of even the worst of times and souls.

I mean, I understand your point but people are what people are. I don't think there's much you can do to quell the numbers of these events. They've always happened and always will.
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I agree with your first statement and your probably right. I guess I'm just angry at these people. I don't think anything good came out of Columbine or the two who perpretrated that crime. Yes, they were screwed up in the head.. but they weren't good in my book. I had it worse than them in High School and I didn't kill anyone. Will I be remembered when I am dust?

Your right though and I guess all I am doing is venting. But I do believe there are things that we can do to curb some of these atrocities from ever happening. How come nothing like Columbine happened in say the 50's or 60's? I wonder what brought us to this point? Video games? lol I don't know.



posted on Jan, 14 2011 @ 12:10 AM
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Well to get this accomplished you would have to get rid of the news. People would have already forgotten Charles Manson if it wasn't for them ever so often interviewing him or telling us he got caught with a cell phone. It could never happen.



posted on Jan, 14 2011 @ 12:27 AM
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why is john lennon more important than the next guy. because he sang. look tommorrow in your local newspaper and you'll probably read about your city's latest homicide.

that person has family and friends who are much closer and are grieving just as much as the yokels who ball their eyes out and whose only connection to john lennon is buying a record.

this idol worship of people has to stop, it's why crazed lunatics become obsessed and start going on murder rampages.



posted on Jan, 14 2011 @ 12:28 AM
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why does it matter if they are famous, and to do what you are asking you would have to have any and every media source edited by the government and that doesn't sound like a good idea to me.



posted on Jan, 14 2011 @ 12:37 AM
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that is about the dumbest idea ever.. we need to put a name and a face to evil..

you sir are on the road to hell, paving it at lightening speed



posted on Jan, 14 2011 @ 03:27 AM
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Originally posted by randomname
why is john lennon more important than the next guy. because he sang. look tommorrow in your local newspaper and you'll probably read about your city's latest homicide.



John Lennon was just an example. Put any name there you wish.



posted on Jan, 14 2011 @ 03:28 AM
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Originally posted by belowabovetopsecret
why does it matter if they are famous, and to do what you are asking you would have to have any and every media source edited by the government and that doesn't sound like a good idea to me.


Yup, your probably right. It was just an idea and I was curious what people would think of it is all.



posted on Jan, 14 2011 @ 03:31 AM
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Originally posted by rebeldog
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that is about the dumbest idea ever.. we need to put a name and a face to evil..

you sir are on the road to hell, paving it at lightening speed


Dumbest? Maybe. Just an idea to promote discussion. If I am indeed on the road to hell then I sure expect to see you waiting for me at the door.

Evil doesn't need a name to be evil. My point by taking away any acknowledgement to the evil doer is taking away their reason for doing it in the first place. Again, I didn't really think this was possible and just wanted to promote an interesting discussion. Apparently this isn't the place for it.



posted on Jan, 14 2011 @ 08:22 AM
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Anyone who forgets the past,is doomed to repeat it.

If mass murderers were to be erased by history,then we should erase almost the entire history of humankind.
The human race is in a killing spree for different reasons since the beginning.Under different excuses we have a really bloody history.
We already don't learn from the past,if we start erasing it,will only make things worse than they are.



posted on Jan, 14 2011 @ 08:26 AM
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How many murders has the worst of the worst of police committed in his or her life?



posted on Jan, 14 2011 @ 08:30 AM
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I don't agree that these people should be erased from history. They should always be remembered, but then, so should all murderers, regardless of who they murder if it is not in self defense or part of a military action (with good reason, not just for the sake of the kill.) Famous or rich or political people are no more important that any Tom, Dick, or Harry on the street. IMO. Take everything from them? Sure, in many cases. What happens though with a wrongfully convicted person who has everything stripped from them? When it is shown that they were wrongfully convicted, do we restore everything? Who pays for that then? That happened just recently with someone released after ten years, I think it was, when it was found he was innocent. I absolutely understand the emotion that brought those thought processes on that inspired the OP. Absolutely, but don't think that is the actual answer.



posted on Jan, 14 2011 @ 06:10 PM
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i have no idea the names or faces of all the evil commited over just the 1800's.. do you know the names of the rapists, thieves and murderers from just one year in the 1950's. i can't make a list of them..


so, by your logic there wouldn't be anymore evil deeds then? since you can't name them right?



posted on Jan, 15 2011 @ 05:21 PM
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Originally posted by rebeldog
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i have no idea the names or faces of all the evil commited over just the 1800's.. do you know the names of the rapists, thieves and murderers from just one year in the 1950's. i can't make a list of them..


so, by your logic there wouldn't be anymore evil deeds then? since you can't name them right?


Delfina and María de Jesús González: 1955-1964, murdered prostitutes.
Donald Henry Gaskins: 1953-1982, child murderer, 80 confirmed kills.
David Parker Ray: 1950-1990, 60 murders.
Richard Kuklinski: 1948-1986, upwards of 200 contracted murders
Howard Unruh: 1949, 13 killed in killing spree.
Charles Starkweather: 1957, killed 11
...and my favorite Ed Gein.

These are just a few.

And I wasn't speaking about rapists and theives if you took time to read my entire post, which wasn't that long to begin with.

...and since I can name them there are still evil deeds by your thinking, even though I never said such a thing.

Again, this was just to bring up conversation and alternatives...not just to bash me.
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posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 01:18 AM
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Yea,its pretty sad that the arizona shooter is now famous.



posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 04:00 PM
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Replace there names with numbers.

Who would pay attention to convict 3745

Who would care if convict 666 got a cell phone in prison.



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