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Originally posted by Namaste1001
It's good to see things from the other side. Thanks for posting.
What I take issue with is when you said driving is a privilege not a right. Maybe, if you use the term driving which in legal terms is a commercial activity. Travelling however is a right not a privilege. We all have the lawful right to travel. That's lawful not legal.
Originally posted by seeashrink
reply to post by jeh2324
You know son, some people will just not let you be nice. I've already forgotten more about law enforcement than you will ever know and that includes constitutional rights. I'm also a ten year military veteran and an Oath Keeper. I suspect that there is no pleasing you on any subject.
Originally posted by something wicked
Sorry, where did the OP say anything that matches your comments? Boiling things down he did say be honest, it helps, and treat the policeman with the same respect you would wish to receive..... given the scenarios described, if you have an issue with that then I would respectfully suggest it's you who has the issue, not the OP.
Originally posted by urmenimu2
reply to post by seeashrink
the only problem with this post is the whole assumption that it is our job to kiss cop's butts even if they are abusing authority. we are supposed to manage the cop, calm him down, so that he doesnt arrest us for no reason, according to the OP.
i have a better idea. how about we require police to receive actual training to respect citizens that goes beyond the desire to bully and a 3 month academy that teaches them people are the enemy, then we take away most of their police powers so untrained bullys cannot be abusive, then we make a whole slew of laws that restrict police abuse so that if a cop is rude for no reason, he gets fired, since that would happen to the rest of us if we were rude on the job.
then we eliminate 1/2 of the millions of needless laws that make this such a weird culture in the first place, and we accept that a culture based on character and principal and self responsibility and compassion is the true meaning of a successful civilization.
i dont want any training sessions on how to please abusive morons who are overempowered and undertrained, just so i am not a victim of their illegal abuse. and i would much prefer a world where i could put a brown bag to my lips without harassment....and legalized weed too [i dont smoke, but i am sick of seeing people harrassed to ensure mexican cartels have income].
maybe if we can get the ONE IN TEN american citizens who are incarcerated or involved in the criminal justice system outta jail and into freedom and a sane culture, we wouldnt need a bunch of high school football glory day underachievers jumping all over people for a stem in their ashtray, and then "officers" could focus on real crimes, like violent crimes, which basically werent even covered in this post. wait.
yeah, violent crimes were covered in this post. you implied many cops, if angry, would arrest a citizen for angering them just by being more intelligent, thus giving that citizen a criminal history and a horribly abusive experience in jail overnight. well, its pretty hard not to be more intelligent than an abusive cop. so thats pretty violent. violence against innocent citizens. thats ugly. and no, i dont feel like kissin anyone's butt for it.