"L" means Libertarian

Guns are morally neutral. Sometimes guns are used by the villains and other times guns used by the heros. Guns exist, they can't be gotten rid of either since there are millions of them in the world, and typically once a gun is made it has a very very long lifetime, getting passed down through the generations, being refurbished and such. The vast vast vast majority of gunshots are merely practice shots, with no intent to kill whatsoever. Guns get more sophisticated all the time, there are a large variety of them as well, and have multiple applications.

Some people use guns for hunting, some for protection (like police officers or guarding against home intruders and vandals or for personal protection against threatening individuals), and others for recreation (shooting cans and targets helps some people concentrate better, others get a thrill out of doing it, target practice, paintball/airsoft, robot competitions, etc). The cops don't always show up in time, and in dangerous neighborhoods people are often times left to fend for themselves, but outlawing guns won't make them go away, the criminals will still get them, and regulation of guns still won't keep them out of the hands of thugs. In fact, outlawing guns will only make it safer for thugs to knock over stores and banks, or to burglarize your home, it will probably start happening more frequently than they do now.

Thugs can get their hands on guns regardless of what the law says, very easy to do, just like how they can get their hands on illegal drugs. Outlawing guns would be tantamount to funding a war on guns, similar to the war on drugs it would be lost merely because there will always be a demand for the gun trade, and furthermore gun companies would just go underground like prohibition, I'm pretty sure people would figure out a way to make their own guns and ammo if they couldn't purchase them or know where to get them.

I think what I am saying here is true, don't you agree? Wouldn't it be much more costly to regulate guns with tax dollars, and then to lock people up just for owning firearms? Aren't our jails already too full as it is? Why make criminals out of all gun enthusiasts just because there are a few criminals in the world whom are way out of control and probably could get guns anyhow? Why sacrifice freedoms in the name of safety, when there isn't even a guarantee of safety even if expensive laws were to be implemented in the first place?

I realize that other countries that prohibit guns have a much lower instance of gun violence, however, they merely don't have the public demand for guns that we do in the US. They spend a lot less in taxes in their gun regulation merely because of this lack of demand for firearms, but in the end it still is a repressed freedom in those countries, their gun enthusiasts probably just move here instead to satisfy their activities. Their criminals merely find other means of killing, such as poisoning or knives or clubs, yes more primitive means to their end, but they achieve it nonetheless.

Well said. And then on the other side you have societies like Switzerland where everybody has a fully automatic gun and there is virtually no gun violence there. It really should be pretty obvious to anyone that laws only affect people who obey the laws.

Well said !! The events of the past week have proved that guns aren't dangerous,crazy people with guns are.
A firearm holds no intention !!

S+F! And well deserved you echoed my thoughts on gun control nearly to the T, I have always felt and demonstrated that taking away law abiding citizen's rights to protect themselves with firearms only serves to strengthen criminals who will get weapons no matter what the law says because they do not have any respect for the law. It has been shown numerous times that criminals in areas with high numbers of law abiding citizens with firearms and the willingness to protect themselves and their families criminals are far less brazen. Criminals are generally creatures of opportunity that prey on the weak, where there are the weak (unable to defend themselves with legal firearms the criminals will be much stranger and more brazen. It really amazes me that these gun control stooges actually think they are doing any good other than to empower criminals, I wish they would get a clue one day.

Men have always had weapons.

"Guns" are just modern weapons.

Disarmed nations are victims awaiting their turn.

In Utrecht one of the larger cities in the Netherlands there wa a guy murdered 2 dayys ago...

The first since 2008.

We can't have guns

S+F, Look at Mexico. 30,000 deaths in 2 years with a total ban on guns. Well written, but I'm sure you're preaching mostly to the choir.

Originally posted by sbctinfantry
S+F, Look at Mexico. 30,000 deaths in 2 years with a total ban on guns. Well written, but I'm sure you're preaching mostly to the choir.

that's a little hilarious.

Originally posted by Sinter Klaas
In Utrecht one of the larger cities in the Netherlands there wa a guy murdered 2 dayys ago...

The first since 2008.

We can't have guns

I do not know much about Netherlands gun policy, how long have the gun control laws been in place? How deep set were firearms in the culture before the ban went into place? Don't get me wrong I think gun control can work but only in certain places. I personally believe the U.S. would be the last place that an all out gun ban or even strict gun regulations on earth that would work and actually reduce crime, IMHO of course