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Well I'm glad that im not the only one discussing the issue. And i am not saying a sign has changed or anything also, to my belief if there realy is
earth progression wouldnt change completely over for 140 years before sign could change houses. Also my new point is that if we cannot see winter
stars in the summer how could an earths wobble change a prominant constaltion by about a month, it is more like the earth slowed down. That is like
saying the earth can wobble and 12000 years from now see winter stars in summer, not possible. each constellation is seperated by a 30 degree period
around the sun meaning one star sign is more prominant in winter than summer etc. Earth only sees stars on back side of the earth, so as earth goes
around the sun cannot see winter stars in summer, in same theoryetically earth should not be seeing a new constallation in a later month unless earths
cycle around sun has slowed down, not due to a wobble. Also if things have changed it would be good to save tropical, just merely changing signs over
to a new house sign would keep some of its traits but gain new ones and would make tropical astrology good for an estimated 2100 years for next
Also it is neat that you feel spirited by mars. Mars is one of my favorate planets. My nickname or alter ego is God of War even though im a libra. And
according to mythology Mars was about spring, cultivation and protection and wasnt all evil. But people renamed him God of war cause they always won
wars when they took the statue of Mars out to war.
Next sidereal is alright to, and maybe our generation could adapt it, but also sidereal should remember, even to ancient acient days even cave men
that signs were not only influenced by planet but also traits of season, like a sign could mean goodluck to plant or time to harvest, their way of
tellin time, reason for having a calender, and feel that next generation should not have a traditional astrology. So a sign starting spring like
pisces now would be more a leader, and mid season more will full, and end season for adaptable, etc, and a spring and fall more balanced. Also
tropical not only acepts fixed traits but also coul adapt to acept real events of the sky if they want to partner with an Astronomer.But personally i
like tropical but Tropical just wants to be religiosly fixed on season alone even thoug things are changing and do not relize it was also about
cosmos. I wish i could fix it. And sometimes i think the only way i can is to say the signs are moving into a new house. And also by doing that
Sidereal and Tropical would be closer to the same. Good luck to me.
And also even as the god of war, I myself feel spirited by season. Hey when its summer im happy and just wan a hang out with friends got to the river
or something, and in the winter i sometimes feel more stuck in the house. Tropical had a logic and is more traditional to the art. So even if
sidereal, shouldnt just ignore signs of the season, Equinox,Solstice, Cardinal,Succedent,Cadent etc.
Last stars are signs relative per every 30degrees of earths position around the sun so calender dates should not change, if they have changed then the
earth has eithor speed up or slowed down yearly trip round sun, and before this whole thing happened there was material suggesting that. This issue is
more than just a wobble but a sign that the earth has slowed down yearly trip around sun if spring starts late or that our calenders are off over the
years. P.S. it could have something to do with our clock, we use a perfect 24 hour day, but a counterclockwise rotation of stars take just under 24 at
like 23.5 hours.
Also, sidereal is a branch of tropical and use many same traits and tradition as tropical. The only way i can see to fix tropical is to put Aries in
the second house, then the figures would be close their same 30deg position when first made by Babylon, and in 70 to140 give or take years would be
more exact in place. By placing aries in the second house in tropical then the sun realy will be rising in Aries in April as not realy in March
anymore,(maybe his tail in march) and in the signs the right months, nature changes guess even stars, but just as we were handed down the art of
fundamental traditional astrorology from the ancients, i think it would be fair for the kids, so that the next generation have a traditional
fundamental tropical astrology. And by doing this tropical sidereal be more the same. P.s. also by tropical sayin aries in first is wrong by traits,
so if sidereal adapts traits from tropical then many traits are wrong. Putting Aries in second house tropical is the only way i can see to fix this. I
know how to interpret traits and alot about astrology and mythology, maybe i could try write a book. I dont know if anyone would like it or accept it,
but i could at least try. And there is still time to revise this otherwise people centuries from now might wake up and to news and say peopl are two
signs off, so i dont care what peoples opinions are or denial of fundaments, but i want to save tradition and make tropical fundamental again and so
that the next generation have an ancient fundamental tropical astrology a rich art that was handed down to us only fair if the next has one too; Im
not doing this for me or anyone, Im doing this for kids. Signing out. Also i believe in God also, but i believe he has 2 names, one is sacred Hebrew
and the other is gentile Apollion (or Apollo i dont know how spell it) God of the sun who has a son who was a healer. Peace.
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