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This has never happened before, in 82 years of history

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posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 10:21 AM
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S&P Melt Up Price Momentum: A Once In Never Event

As part of the most recent observations on the boil up (melt up is so QE1) in the S&P, we find something quite interesting. A quick glance at the chart below shows the general market 45% climb since Bernanke's leak of QE2 in August, as well as the market's 10 day (purple line) and 50 day (green line) moving averages. As a point of reference the S&P has been above the 10 day average for 30 days straight, and above the 50 day average for 92 days straight. What is remarkable are some statistical findings as pertain to the average's movement with respect to the SMAs. Sentiment Trader points out that while as part of the recent surge in the S&P, the market has gone for "92 days without closing below its 50-day average, which has been matched only 17 other times since 1928." Where it gets scary, is that as pointed out, during this time the market has not closed below the 10 DMA once during the past 30 days. And as Sentiment Trader notes, "this has never happened before, in 82 years of history." Congratulations to the Centrally Planned Socialist States of America: its Chairman has just made the Guinness Book of Manipulation Records.


Seriously, why do you think every insider trader is GETTING THE HELL OUT OF THE MARKETS?
114 Times More Insider Selling Than Buying In First Week Of 2011

After insiders closed off 2010 with just 19x more selling than buying, they have greeted 2011 with a ratio of selling to buying of 114x, a decent pick up in dumping.


Ah yes, because this is the MOTHER OF ALL BUBBLES and when it blows, it's gonna be so severe, 1929 will look like heaven.




posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 10:26 AM
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So if I have a little bit of stock (or is the word "shares" in English?), let's say 100 000 dollars, how much of that would you advise me to sell right now? All of it? I did sell for about 5 000 dollars yesterday, just because I had a feeling things will go down pretty soon. Thanks for any advise!
edit on 13-1-2011 by pimpinette because: confusion about "stocks" and "shares"



posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 10:28 AM
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the S&P is a futures market right? Anyone have any experience in trading with futures? Could you buy a contract (idk the right terms) and sell it a minute later? legally? Cause I'm thinking of jumping into the bubble before it pops, but idk if there are time frames or anything of the sort associated with them.

But I thought the bubble already burst in 08/09? What's the new bubble?

Bubbles....theres a dolphin at Sea World San Diego named Bubbles. And Bubble's handler, his name is Art. If there is any future you want to invest in, its theirs. Art loves Bubbles, and I'm pretty sure Bubbles is head over fin for Art. Budum Cha!


EDIT: is the bubble in the bond market?
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posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 10:29 AM
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Sell it all off.

Buy seeds, tools, antibiotics and ammunition (even if you don't own a gun).



posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 10:41 AM
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Originally posted by asperetty
the S&P is a futures market right? Anyone have any experience in trading with futures? Could you buy a contract (idk the right terms) and sell it a minute later? legally? Cause I'm thinking of jumping into the bubble before it pops, but idk if there are time frames or anything of the sort associated with them.

But I thought the bubble already burst in 08/09? What's the new bubble?

Bubbles....theres a dolphin at Sea World San Diego named Bubbles. And Bubble's handler, his name is Art. If there is any future you want to invest in, its theirs. Art loves Bubbles, and I'm pretty sure Bubbles is head over fin for Art. Budum Cha!


EDIT: is the bubble in the bond market?
edit on 13-1-2011 by asperetty because: (no reason given)


No S&P is not futures, just a group of 500 companies that represent the market more accurately than the DOW which uses 40 companies(i think its 40) of the largest in the country. You could buy a futures contract and sell it the next minute but the price is linked to the time and i'ts value is related to the time to expiration. In America you can sell a derivative contract any point after you buy it but in Europe you have to hold on to it until time of expiration. Don't know if that helps much...



posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 10:50 AM
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I personally think all that stock rise on wall street was from, ready for this, Christmas sales. And the same for the lwoer unemployemtn claims. Today in the news unemployment rose to 445.000 extremely higher then expected, of course it rose the christmas layoffs occured. Today in the news the stock market opens lower, of course it will start declining christmas spending is over. They the wall street ellites sucked up our monies for yet a couple more months, and know the party is over again and back to reality. I think this years christmas sales were higher because for so many years we have pinched out on christmas, most americans thought lets giveour families a little better holiday. Today in news housing foreclosures are about to skyrocket, those badly funded mortgage loans of the early to mid 2000`s are know comming to the default level, these people who took loans they knew outright they could nto afford are know facing that horendous ballon payment.
First, I have no empathy for people who took those loans they knew they could not pay, it was a matter of greed of the average citizen. They were offered loans on hughe new homes with low monthly payments for anywhere from 5 -7- 10 years, interest only payments, know they have to 1) make the ballon payment and still have a larger monthly mortgage, 2) pay off the entire loan 3) loose their home.
What really happen is the banks and loan companys knew what would happen. People are greedy adn do not think about the tomorrows, The bankers knew people would fall into their dasterdly plans, give loans which people cannot pay, when they loose said homes the banks and loan companys get back the homes to re-sale, rent out and make yet another profit on the original deal....really manipulative and great thinking for the elite right?



posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 10:52 AM
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Excellent!

It's about time that the system of wealth based on perception collapsed. I understand that feces rolls down hill and that if the top of the pyramid scheme crumbles beneath the weight of their imaginary fortunes' rubble that the impact will be felt all the way down to schmucks like me who have only their puny 401(k)s in the market, but that is what we get for allowing not just investing, but our entire understanding of what "The Economy" is to be linked to an insular group of B.S. artists trading in on perceptions rather than production.

"F" 'em.

That said, if this happens in the worst possible way (which I doubt, see the link in my sig for my thoughts on the maintenance of the status quo), then it will act as something of a great reset button on the economy. Localization will be the key to survival. Know your farmers. Know your regional supply chain, because some stuff you take for granted will be MIA for a while.

On the upside, there are powerful forces that are very interested in maintaining our society. A replacement system would come around surprisingly quickly. Almost as if by design. Can you do real work? Can you produce goods or perform viable services? You'll be just fine. Are you a schmuck whose been spinning money from bovine feces for so long you've forgotten that there are whole industries that produce actual goods and services (as opposed to mere financial metrics)? You'll have to make some adjustments.

In all reality, there will be strange and unexplained corrections. The Fed isn't the only group using "quantitative easing." The front line investors are getting skitterish, but I have the sneaking suspicion that money will be infused back into the system. The ship will right itself and the hideous swine will return to the trough and everyone else who actually works for a living will keep on keeping on.



posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 10:54 AM
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For anyone reading and that hasn't follow their own intuition yet.. Make plans to get prepared for the outdoors of nature. Invest in a plane ticket to a good part of the world you believe you could live in nature wise if your location isn't as viable. Knife, spade, seeds, raincoat, traveler backpack and seeds are the bare minimum. Take this how you want it. Years of being glued to the TV hasn't given humanity much time to prepare.



posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 11:01 AM
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what is a good place in your opinion? i have given that a lot of thought, and there is not a lot of places that fits the bill. this may be too off topic, maybe start a new thread?

BTW, just saw that Goldman Sachs said Wall Street would be up 18 % this year. Yeah right...



posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 11:10 AM
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goldman sacks has a great vestment, I think the analyst try to convince us things are better in hopes we will open our bank accounts our wallets and spend that which we dont haev or are trying to save for the worse. WHen i see a uprise I will believe it. But as I am alike to the common citizen I wont spend anymore then necessary as I truely believe it is going down not up.



posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 01:10 PM
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Recently, China asked U.S. to make a statement that all China's financial assets in U.S. are safe.

I can't believe that China is dumb and childish enough to be even asking such question. I guess these two are like dumb and dumber.



posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 02:26 PM
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The doom and gloomers have been predicting the sinking of our ship year after year.

I look at as a field of icebergs. We may take a dent here or a scratch there but we will keep on navigating.

If some of you want to set out on your own, in dingies, watch out for the sharks. I'll buy your land when you can no longer pay the taxes.



posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 03:37 PM
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You want to daytrade, of course you can do that. Many people do. I do it myself. Everyone will tell you its hard dont do it, but its actually easy, at least for me it is.



posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 04:52 PM
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Cheers ! to the greenback, the future of toilet paper!

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posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 05:03 PM
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I wouldn't say investing is a bad idea

I made pretty good money on my investments in 09

For example, if the company you purchase stocks in has good capital in the bank then you don't run a tight risk of getting squeezed in a crisis.



posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 07:13 PM
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Thanks for reminding me why my natural habitat these days is commodities and forex.

You know what bothers me more than the fact the NYSE is a rigged game? The fact that the insiders do such a slipshod job of it these days and don't even bother trying to cover up anymore.


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posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 08:17 PM
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yes you can buy and sell immediately it is called high risk investing



posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 08:20 PM
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I think they asked this of america because, when we flater to the statement it gives reason to start something negative with us. also would put world disgrace to us. Im sure china isnt as dumb as you and others may think. They been trying to get back at us for decades and they have us by the nutts know



posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 08:20 PM
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posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 08:23 PM
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Threads like this one terrify me.



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