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Originally posted by Matrix Rising
It's threads like this that give Conspiracy theorist a bad name. It's truly shameful that people have to resort to calling this murderer innocent in order to get attention.
Originally posted by Matrix Rising
I can see the MK-Ultra threads or I saw on connecting him to illuminati bloodlines. This is a Conspiracy but acting like the guy is innocent is just idiotic.
Originally posted by Matrix Rising
There's evidence for and evidence against and you haven't presented a SHRED OF EVIDENCE AGAINST.
Originally posted by Matrix Rising
This is just nonsense that gives true conspiracies a bad name.
Originally posted by Matrix Rising
Saying he's innocent in a vacuum is just SHAMEFUL when a 9 year old little girl is dead.
Originally posted by mistressSOPHIA
why was a 9 year old born on 9.11.01 and published in a 911 book THERE.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by mistressSOPHIA
reply to post by kismetphayze
this isnt just about loughners rights.. every single AMERICAN CITIZEN benefits from the principle that the accused is innocent till proven guilty... if his rights are taken away.. then our rights are just one more precedent from being taken away.
True, but remember Mr. Laughner's rights end where his victim's rights begin.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
LOL!!! As a former military person, if any of the victims were hit by a shell from a high-powered sniper rifle there would have been exponentially more damage done.
Mrs. Giffords would be dead today.
A dead fed, and a shot up congresswomen, who is to say that is even a bad thing?
Originally posted by matrix12
reply to post by Matrix Rising
yeah i bet he wouldnt be saying that if it was his little girl who died and they had jll in custody and saw his smiling crazy mugshott
Originally posted by PlautusSatire
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
LOL!!! As a former military person, if any of the victims were hit by a shell from a high-powered sniper rifle there would have been exponentially more damage done.
Mrs. Giffords would be dead today.
And what about a .22 with armor piercing rounds? Just an example, but nothing can be ruled out at this point given all the suspicious circumstances surrounding the patsy.
Originally posted by Sinnthia
reply to post by PlautusSatire
I watched an elderly man explain how he watched Jared do the shooting, turn to duck, then help tackle Jared as he was getting the second clip from his pocket. What exactly is it you are looking for?
I am curious. Are people concerned about preserving liberties or is there some reason people really really really want this guy not to be guilty? This thread kind of seems like a disconnect. I agree that he must be proven guilty in a court of law but all these requests for who saw what when and where seem a little silly. Witnesses saw him shooting. Saw him with the gun. They assaulted him with the gun in hand. They got the gun from him. Someone else picked up his gun. There is security camera footage. Is there something more here we are supposed to be considering?
Originally posted by mistressSOPHIA
instinctively, she may have turned her head away from him as he pointed it at her face..
Originally posted by mistressSOPHIA
she appears to be a motorcycle rider and probably has quick reflexes to avoid percieved threats
Oh.. Hold on.. We cant assume that he is guilty.. But you can assume that someone used the little girl as a shield? ... The ignorance of this is outstanding... I just hope people aren't lurking from the MSM.. They are going to think ATS is a hot bed for morons.
Originally posted by MisterCrowley
reply to post by Resurrectio
How do you know the 9 y/o girl was not used as a HUMAN shield. I'm ashamed at whoever was watching her and ran not protecting her.. Is it the shooters fault a 9 y/o got shot? NO it is who ever was watching her for not protecting her! I bet the little 9 y/o girl was used to deflect the bullets.. Gifford shot who cares, a dead fed really who cares? This whole thing is blown out of proportion, and people are yelling DEATH and they don't even know who committed the crimes.