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Originally posted by MisterCrowley
We really should be allowed to see the video of the gifford shooting.. I mean it would be educational. It also would let the public know what really happen. It wouldn't be to graphic they have sex scenes on TV. But we can't watch wide eyed gifford get her head blown to pieces? Who do they think they are. RELEASE THE VIDEO SO WE know if Jared is guilty. I'm sure adults would be able to handle it... STUPID nanny state!! Is Gifford dead yet? To bad, she was a lousy politician.. I hope her career is over at the very least.edit on 13-1-2011 by MisterCrowley because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by wayno
There were reports that amongst the 911 calls someone said the shooter "ran away".
There is a distinct possibility that there was another person who may have killed some of the victims, and that person took off and left Jared to take the blame.
Jared had a dazed and unemotional blank stare on his face at the time of the shootings. His friends say that "monster" is not the Jared they knew. Was he on drugs at the time? Was he in some sort of trance? Was he set up?
There are a lot of questions to answer before deciding his guilt.
Originally posted by Juan520
One he did buy the gun it was a Glock 19 with a 30 round clip and the second person of interest was a cab driver.
Originally posted by Juan520
I know this because the cabbie works near me and i have asked him what happend and when he saw himself on tv he went right to the police.
Originally posted by Juan520
Um let me see another interesting point is that i dont doubt something is going on here with all the killings and such on goverment officials kind of reminds me of Night of the long knives when hitler started to eliminate all those brown shirts that opposed him
Originally posted by Juan520
this was a white guy everybody shut up and tried to say that he was troubled and needed help LOL.
Originally posted by harrytuttle
Originally posted by PlautusSatire
Which of the victims or witnesses have identified Loughner positively as a shooter?
If you don't know that information, then why are you posting in this thread? Go inform yourself. If you need a place to start, try Google. You have heard of search engines, right?
Originally posted by Juan520
"09/23/2004 Assault (Victim)
Originally posted by Juan520
"05/15/2006 Liquor Laws (Juvenile Arrest)
Originally posted by Juan520
"09/10/2007 Suspicious Vehicle (Cite & Release Arrest)
Originally posted by Juan520
"10/03/2008 Identity Theft (Victim)
Originally posted by Sinnthia
Arizona shooting caught on tape
I was not there and did not see what happened but I feel pretty safe betting that he will be found guilty beyond any reason of doubt, unless it is insanity or some other excuse but he will be the one found to have done the shooting.
Originally posted by wayno
There were reports that amongst the 911 calls someone said the shooter "ran away".
There is a distinct possibility that there was another person who may have killed some of the victims, and that person took off and left Jared to take the blame.
Originally posted by muzzleflash
Until Proven Guilty!
Most of you have FORGOT what AMERICA is really about!
Innocent Until Proven Guilty!
You have Forgotten what a FAIR TRIAL is!!
Not I.
Originally posted by liejunkie01
While it is nice to think that we still have control of the legal system, take a look around. Have you ever been in a court case. You are guilty as sonn as you step foot in the courtroom. Everybody knows it, but the one's who believe that we still have the power, which are the one's that have never been in the legal system.
Originally posted by matrix12
well for starters tell that too the parents of christine green, and secondly jll doesent seem too bumed out he is in jail for sumthing he didnt do, i wander why? hmmmmmm he did it , hes proud of it , and i hope he frys.
Originally posted by Phenomium
The guy was tackled at the scene by some witnesses to the crime.
Originally posted by Phenomium
Several testimonies from witnesses in a crowd attested to his shooting and trying to reload a clip.
Originally posted by Phenomium
The smile on his crazy face during his photo shoot lends credence to this guilt.
Originally posted by Phenomium
No one would smile while getting booked (over something like multiple murder) unless they were content with what they had done.
Originally posted by Phenomium
He may have been MK Ultra'd tough. Not guilty by reason of hypnosis, but then you would never see this in court because it's impossible to prove hypnosis.
Originally posted by mistressSOPHIA
reply to post by kismetphayze
this isnt just about loughners rights.. every single AMERICAN CITIZEN benefits from the principle that the accused is innocent till proven guilty... if his rights are taken away.. then our rights are just one more precedent from being taken away.
Originally posted by MisterCrowley
reply to post by crazydaisy
Why not?
OJ simpson killed TWO PEOPLE (allegedly) and was let out of jail.. He also had AN AWSOME POLICE CHASE!!
edit on 12-1-2011 by MisterCrowley because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by muzzleflash
Until Proven Guilty!
Just because the Public and Media jump the gun and automatically assume this guy is guilty does NOT mean he is!
There is no proof that he did it. Everyone merely says he did. There is no video evidence for me to review, nothing. I have zero evidence therefore I cannot say JLL is guilty of this crime. I was not there, so I cannot possibly know.
Most of you have FORGOT what AMERICA is really about!
Innocent Until Proven Guilty!
You have Forgotten what a FAIR TRIAL is!!
Not I.
If I were on His Jury, I will write down NOT GUILTY unless HARD EVIDENCE can be supplied that proves he is guilty. DNA evidence, fingerprints, or a non-coerced admission of guilt would all be sufficient evidence of guilt. I would then change my vote to GUILTY.
So PROVE HES GUILTY.
Stop making baseless accusations without proof against a human being for capital crimes. (Just because it's in fashion doesn't make it right).
This is NOT TROLLING.
I am presenting the LEGAL TRUTH to you folks.
But you are probably so engulfed in the tragedy the media has embedded into your heads to remember what our nation was founded on! Innocent before proven Guilty!
Don't let the Psychological Warfare from the Mainstream Media mesmerize you with emotions and hate. Be calm and think critically, please.