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Originally posted by bhornbuckle75
reply to post by muzzleflash
Ok...so lets assume he is innocent. Is there any even REMOTELY plausible way this could be true? He shoots at a crowd of potential eyewitnesses. I assume he was caught then and there (if I am wrong about this, I appologize, I know what I recall, but I didn't really concentrate on this part of the story). So then...how? Robot Double?!?! Evil Twin from a parallel universe? Perhaps the entire crowd of people were simply paid off (including those who lost loved ones) and they are all getting millions for saying he did it, when it was really someone completely different...... I think you see my point. There is no conceivable way outside of some sort of Suppressed Super Science, or just plain Science Fiction, that he could not have been the one who pulled the trigger. Now I suppose you can argue a technicality on the whole Innocent vs guilty thing.....He is quite obviously insane (however they have to prove that he is SO insane that he cannot tell right from wrong in order to win that way). Or of course there is the old MK Ultra mind controlled thing But why?...it was a Congresswoman....not JFK, I suppose its possible, but that seems like quite a big risk to take a congresswoman out that way.....It seems far more likely if they wanted her dead, they could have poisoned her food, or injected her with something. (I watched a show about Tech used by the C.I.A. One device was an umbrella with a hidden hyopdermic needle at the tip. A guy would just walk by the target, then pretend to trip and jab the umbrella tip into the target, injecting him/her with any variety of chemicals...all according to what effect they wanted) None the less...whatever the motives, whether mind controlled or not mind controlled. This kid did this crime, and will almost certainly be found guilty.
Originally posted by redrezo
Originally posted by ANOMALY502
So multiple eyewitness accounts is not good enough?? (under oath) when the time comes??
I think he's being sarcastic in relation to the UFO sightings which have multiple eye witness accounts, yet are dismissed as fantasy and fiction.
Originally posted by Time2Think
This is definately a provocative thread, but at least it gets some people thinking... which is a good thing as far as I'm concerned. I totally 100% THINK he did it, but I have no clue if he actually DID do it.
Things really are upside down anymore... isn't it supposed to be "innocent until proven guilty?" In reality, it's a hell of a lot more like "guilty until proven innocent" for everyone of us other than the rich and famous.
Just to try and lighten up the mood a little bit here, imagine Justin Bieber going out this weekend, doing all sorts of psychedelic / psycotropic drugs sending him into some crazy series of hallucinations resulting in him firing a gun on a crowd of people. Obviously it would still be all over the media like moths to a flame, but I'm willing to bet that all of his adoring fans would automatically be saying things like "What?!? No way!!! Justin would NEVER do a thing like that, what's wrong with you -- are you crazy!?!?"
Originally posted by nakiel
No-one's innocent, there is just some whom are more likely to get blamed than others (especially if caught).
Still... from a Scandinavian view; the politicians in the US are nuts!
First they give people violent movies and real guns , then they take away their homes and income!
I blame; Loughner 2%, society 7%, The government 40%, and The politicians 51%...
As my a zombie once said "corp's makes corpses, not we!"
Four people are being hailed as heroes after Saturday's mass shooting in Tucson that left six dead and 14 others wounded, including Rep. Gabrielle Giffords.
PICTURES: Arizona Shooting Victims
Daniel Hernandez used his hands to stop the bleeding from congresswoman's head. Roger Salzgeber and Joseph Zamudio tackled the suspect, Jared Loughner. But it was a 61-year-old woman who grabbed the magazine and handgun from the gunman that witnesses said helped prevent further tragedy.
"It was one shot, and then a moment with nothing, and then a series of shots," Patricia Maisch, of Tucson, told CBS affiliate KPHO. "I saw him coming down the line of chairs there, in front of the Safeway, just shooting people."
Two men tackled the gunman, but he could have done more damage. He still had the gun in his hand as he laid face-to-face with Maisch, she said.
"I was waiting to be shot, I was wondering how it was gonna feel to be shot," she told the station.
Maisch said she didn't stop to think of her own safety, she didn't hesitate for a second.
"I immediately knelt up over him, because he was right there almost on top of me, and the gun was in his right hand," she said.
She said she grabbed the 9mm handgun and the fully loaded magazine he took out of his pocket, disarming him before he could inflict more damage.
Even after all she's done, Maisch remained humble. She credits the two men who took the shooter down, rather than patting herself on the back. Witnesses said Maisch was screaming, "give me the gun" as she knelt over the gunman.
She said she doesn't remember what she said, but that she'll never forget that tragic day.
A federal judge, a congressional aide and a young girl were among the six people killed, while Giffords and 13 others were injured in the bursts of gunfire outside a Tucson supermarket.
Originally posted by muzzleflash
I am presenting the LEGAL TRUTH to you folks
Originally posted by muzzleflash
Until Proven Guilty!
Just because the Public and Media jump the gun and automatically assume this guy is guilty does NOT mean he is!
There is no proof that he did it. Everyone merely says he did. There is no video evidence for me to review, nothing. I have zero evidence therefore I cannot say JLL is guilty of this crime. I was not there, so I cannot possibly know.
Most of you have FORGOT what AMERICA is really about!
Innocent Until Proven Guilty!
You have Forgotten what a FAIR TRIAL is!!
If I were on His Jury, I will write down NOT GUILTY unless HARD EVIDENCE can be supplied that proves he is guilty. DNA evidence, fingerprints, or a non-coerced admission of guilt would all be sufficient evidence of guilt. I would then change my vote to GUILTY.
So PROVE HES GUILTY.
Stop making baseless accusations without proof against a human being for capital crimes. (Just because it's in fashion doesn't make it right).
This is NOT TROLLING.
I am presenting the LEGAL TRUTH to you folks.
But you are probably so engulfed in the tragedy the media has embedded into your heads to remember what our nation was founded on! Innocent before proven Guilty!
Don't let the Psychological Warfare from the Mainstream Media mesmerize you with emotions and hate. Be calm and think critically, please.