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posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 09:47 AM
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I've decided to finally get a tattoo, and I thought it would be decent to get a masonic tattoo as I am obsessed with conspiracy and the such, not to mention I found a tattoo artist that is a mason... to think of getting a masonic tattoo by a mason! Sorry to the point now, here is the picture I would like to get as a tattoo I know a lot of the symbolism on it but I figured I would like to know if there was anything I was overlooking. As I know all symbols are not interpreted the same from area to area but a rough meaning is good enough for me.




starting obviously with the all seeing eye, "the eye of knowledge" "the eye of the enlightened one" "The one who see's all".

I know that a moon can represent change, specially a crecent.

And Lastly I know, at least I believe is correct, that the sun is widely said to be the "bringer of the new day"

Correct me, and fill me in on the rest




posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 09:59 AM
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I would like to think that the puppet, would represent humanity and how we are controlled by an upper hand. Also, I'm finally getting a tattoo myself, of a message I wrote in cuneiform to our creators when they come.



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 10:04 AM
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The moon and sun represent light and dark. In a masonic ritual there are two pillars on either side of the black and white tile floor. One represents light and one represents dark.



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 10:05 AM
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In some masonic symbolism the all seeing eye represents Yahweh "God"

I have seen the Hebrew letters replace the all seeing eye in other symbols like this.


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posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 10:08 AM
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this is purely my opinion and you are free to do whatever you wish. The art that you linked to is partially masonic, and partially paranoid conspiracy theory. I know that right now, it may seem cool, but this is forever. Should you ever decide to join masonry and find out what it's really about, you will have a constant reminder of a confused youth to stare at. Trust me when I say that.

The upper symbolism is very masonic. Each symbol has a meaning. They are pretty much of no use to a non mason since you have to experience the lesson in the way it's taught to fully understand it.

If you never ventured any further in the mysteries of masonry and you only hung out with conspiracy people, they would think your tat was the coolest thing ever. My advise if free and you get what you paid for.

Good luck.



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by MSSVBSS
The moon and sun represent light and dark. In a masonic ritual there are two pillars on either side of the black and white tile floor. One represents light and one represents dark.


no, they don't.

The checkered floor represents life filled with choices and influence of good and evil.
The pillars are best explained by the 2nd degree lecture. That is one of those things I think that falls into something I shouldn't explain, but if you search for the fellowcraft degree lecture, or 2nd degree lecture, you will find what they stand for.



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 10:14 AM
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Unless you are of the upper echelon, global elite or whatever they are called, I would not get this. IMO I get Tattoos that mean something that actualy speak to who I am. But there are people who get tattooed to get tattooed...if it looks cool slap it on. And of course that's fine, to each his own. If you like it and comfortable with having that on you forever then go right ahead. Here are links to the answer you are looking for.

All seeing eye and piramid

Masonnic Compass and sqaure



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 10:21 AM
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Originally posted by network dude
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this is purely my opinion and you are free to do whatever you wish. The art that you linked to is partially masonic, and partially paranoid conspiracy theory. I know that right now, it may seem cool, but this is forever. Should you ever decide to join masonry and find out what it's really about, you will have a constant reminder of a confused youth to stare at. Trust me when I say that..


Totally and utterly this ^^

In my personal opinion IF anyone has a tattoo then they should have something that TRULY means something to them... not just a 'this is so cool' job.

Just think how many things over your life you have thought were cool, or awesome, or mysterious, or topical... and then think if you would want that in your face forever?

I think the same about having husband/wife/lover names tattooed on oneself also. I mean 20 years ago I was terribly in love with someone, we vowed never to part... married at Stone Henge....

The thought of having his name tattooed on my body now makes me laugh! Thank goodness I always said I would wait until I was 30 before I ever had any tats done.

I do have tattoos now and they all mean something to me in my heart... mainly celebrating my children... for they will always be my children and I will always be their mother.

Will you always think masons are mysterious and conspiracy theories are 'cool' ?
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posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 10:27 AM
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Hi.
I spent 11 years in the Royal Navy. In all that time nearly everyone who had a tatoo regretted it in the end. I have always been really glad that I didn`t have any done. Apart from anything else they fade with age and look like crap after a few years. And when you are old you will look like an idiot no matter how "cool" you may think it now. Please don`t do it.



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 10:29 AM
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I am surprised that a mason would tattoo a Square and Compass on a non-mason.

Some of the symbols I can't discuss, but in general they are fairly generic. The sun opens and governs the day (or brings light to a man's life). The moon governs the night (darkness, rest, death, etc.)

The wheat at the top isn't specific to American Freemasonry but I surmise it denotes 'plenty' like Corn, for the manifold blessings of God.

The Square and Compass is a marvelous symbol. During long business meetings my eyes often drift to it and I find so much meaning embedded in it. If you look carefully you can see triangles, squares, five and six pointed stars.

The compass reminds Masons to circumscribe our actions, in other words to keep our behavior and speech within due bounds and not step outside the circle of behavior into the darkness of being driven by our passions.

The square reminds us to deal squarely with all people. To be honest and fair and to square our actions.

This might be surprising, but the puppet actually doesn't seem sinister to me. Being on the bottom usually denotes physical life. The man wandering in the darkness is bound to the material, manipulated by emotion and controlled by fear.

As you ascend in the symbology, toward light, the strings are broken and Truth is revealed, ultimately resulting in an immortal life of Plenty and peace, free from the bounds of physical existence.



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 10:29 AM
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Tats for you kids is about the only way I would ever do a persons name. My friends daughter had her boyfriends name tattooed on her shoulder. Now she is destined to date some guy named Mike for eternity.

She plans on getting it covered, but what a mistake.

Prince said it best :"forever, and that's a mighty long time"



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 10:34 AM
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you went and got deep all philosophical on us.
Almost brought a tear to my eye. (sniff)

I think the puppet would be seen as being controlled by the upper tier, elites, you know, the higher ups.
the masons above the 28th degree! muhahahah
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posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 10:35 AM
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The pillar's of light and dark are called Jachin & Boaz.
The square and compass are obvious that they are the tool's of a mason and also the trowel..not sure what the bell represent's.The all seeing eye or the eye of horus or the eye of providence inside the triangle/pyramid is an illuminati sign, they say that illuminated master's infiltrated the fremason's and that's why that symbol was adopted. the puppet is obvious control over the less knowleded population.
The circle inside of the square "square the circle" reminds me of the virtruvian man by divinci although divinci's square and circle were not of equal area and why there are really two men in the picture one with hands and feet touching the square and the other with hadns and feet touching the circle but both have the same head which is supposed to represent some other lineage we have imbedded in us...but that is a whole other thread..it's said that the occult worship the sun "Lucifer" The light bearer. the moon represent change... there are 10 star's by the moon...maybe? 7 of them represent the plieades contelation and the other 3 stars represent the blazing star of RA and two other sun-like star's.. it also looke like 4 ears of corn sticking out of the tops...maybe that has to do with the corn "nation of fierce countenance" some ritual that is performed....
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posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 10:41 AM
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My personal interpretation of the symbolic meaning is: Starting at the center an working out, The eye is a representation of the the all seeing eye, a metaphor for "god's" eye which sees all. The compass and sextant represent the path and direction respectively, that is interpreted by the human-beings belief of what "path" they should take. The triangle which represents the trinity "the father, the son, and the holy ghost" is not perfect and makes a deviation to a sphere, to elude that their may be something higher. The sun on the right can be interpreted as to mean the right hand path "the the path to god being the right hand path " the right hand being the most prevalent hand of choice among humans as the "right" choice: IE the path to enLIGHTENMENT, and the moon as the other "left" path.
The interpretations of "humans" and "god" inside of a circle, and then a square respectively can be seen as a view that the circle which is perfect "god" and then a square "human" fall in that order, yet the square still falls inside of the "god". The wheat bushels on top are a view that life come from "god". The bell is a symbol that a beginning or start of something has/will occur. the rest is a latter addition to the original art-work intended to convey a sense of ominous dread to the viewer. Specifically a dread that this "the masons are controlling you behind your back"

P.S. Yes I have not thought of an explanation to the other sphere at the top of the triangle yet or the olive branch at the bottom.

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posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 10:41 AM
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I would agree with what one of the other posters has said. If your going to get a tattoo it should be something that means something to YOU not something you have to have translated.



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 11:00 AM
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I would see the tattoo and say, “Oh, you play INWO?” I wouldn't take you seriously as a conspiracy theorist, but as a gamer.

Yeah, I'm a bit surprised that a Mason would tattoo the S&C on you. Part of the oaths I took were that I couldn't wear any Masonic bling until I became a Master Mason, and I do know plenty of Master Masons who have masonic tats, but it seems either disrespectful or disingenuous to get such if you're not actually a member.



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 11:05 AM
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A few years back while working at the London Tattoo convention I saw some guys that were doing traditional Maori Tattoos i.e. manually with ink being hammered into the skin and as the artist did it he talked to you about your life, beliefs etc and modified the tattoo to be unique to you.

It was one of the best tattoos I've ever seen! very simple but very personal



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 11:07 AM
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But, in all honesty dude, there are three thing you should consider when getting a tattoo:
1. Will I be proud of this tattoo ten years from now, twenty?
2. Is this Original?
3. Am I willing to research and pay for a good artist to do this tattoo?
Cus lord knows that in fifty years when your grand kids are asking "what's that horrible blog on your arm grandad?" and you have to explain that it's a tattoo that represents an idea you strongly believed in at that time. You F#$@ up man.
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posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 11:14 AM
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It probably relates to the fact that Freemasonry is primarily about charity work. I dare say they may have put on the odd puppet show for disabled orphans and such.



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 11:37 AM
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My .02 is that if you have decided to get a tattoo, pick another design. The design you posted is an amalgamation of Masonic symbols and an image from the cover of the Illuminati game by Steve Jackson. It will quickly identify you as a non-Mason to Freemasons which would suck if you ever do decide to join the Fraternity as NetworkDude said and will falsely identify you as a Mason to non-Masons and conspiracy theorists. Then again you could learn a lot about false accusations in that case...hmmm.
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