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I'm Mad At Our Media

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posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 09:45 AM
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I find it disgusting that arguably the best cable news comes from Russia and Iran.

RT and Press TV are probably the least biased and most comprehensive in their reporting out of all cable news agencies.

Followed by the Fox Business Network that that hosts the opinion shows Stossel and Freedom Watch, along with Neil Cavuto.

WHAT IN THE SAM HELL IS GOING ON IN THIS COUNTRY?!!

Why is it that I find myself ever more drawn to A FREAKING RUSSIAN NEWS AGENCY for news coverage?

I mean seriously! Not more than 30 years ago, if you told someone that the Russian press would be more free and unbiased in its reporting than the major American media outlets, you would have been laughed out of the room! Now when I make such a comment it is predominately met with silence, muted resentment, or wholehearted agreement.

Ridiculous? I think so.

I personally find it amazing that the majority of the American mainstream media acts as nothing more than a government propaganda outlet with almost ZERO investigative reporting. Any real investigative reporting these days is done by bloggers or by the foreign press. We have media outlets literally bending over backwards to gets press slots for White House press conferences, which amount to nothing more free propaganda time for the government to spew its reckless lies.

Who gives a flying crap what the President has to say? His policies are all known wayyyy before any press conference is held. If his policies are already known, why even bother attending the conference or reporting on it?. It is an entirely pointless exercise!

It used to be that when the government put out a press release, the American press would fact check and actually investigate the lies government was spewing. Today, government officials are turned to as a source of truth! THIS IS PREPOSTEROUS!

/rant off.




posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 10:14 AM
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The media in the US have turned into giant corporate funded propaganda machines.

Fox is the lapdog of the right, MSNBC does the same on the left, and CNN is so concerned with being unbiased, that they completely fail at presenting facts. It's really quite sad.

If you want great news that are properly researched, I suggest you give the YoungTurks a chance. Don't like their message? Debunk what they say!! My guess is everyone will have a hard time at debunking them as they do an EXCELLENT job at researching facts...

The YoungTurks

The saddest part is, the situation with the US media got worse. I've lived in the US numerous times over the past 25 years, and they really made the switch to propaganda networks mostly in the past 10 years after 911. Corporations used that tragic event to infiltrate the media even more, to the point where you really have to get your facts elsewhere. What pisses me even more off are the opinion shows that completely disregard facts, like Glenn Beck. He's blatantly lying and misrepresenting facts, but sadly, it seems as if a large number of the US population is unwilling to think for themselves, they rather have some pundit shove badly researched information down their throat...without ever asking themselves if that person maybe has a secret agenda (clue: in Beck's case the secret agenda is money!).



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 10:14 AM
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One good look at who owns and controls the media outlets in this, and other countries, should tell you everything you need to know.

And their job is to create and re-create your reality perpetually. Welcome to the real Matrix.

S&F BTW
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posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 10:20 AM
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They're all puppets of the state. Everything changed after JFK.

Or it's part of the civilization cycle. Affluence breeds moral laziness, allowing the state to expand its power unquestioned. Thus the civilization enters the "decline" phase.

Just a couple suggested answers. I'm not married to either of them. Maybe they're both true.


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posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 10:22 AM
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Carlin said it best, RIP





posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 10:28 AM
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RT is actually growing quite a bit, I myself just found them a few months ago, and I think their great. As you said, it's just the news (which is my preference) without spin or opinion or anything, just the news.

Russia doesn't scare me, I'm not troubled by the fact I'm watching Russia Today, and no I'm not a communist or socialist or anything in between.



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 10:33 AM
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For crying out loud, the big 3 are now using TWITTER to have discussions!

@glennbeckloverboy: Pelosi must die, lol, lmfao!!
CNN host: That's a very interesting comment, let's discuss this further...

It's really quite sad and feels as if it's a deliberate attempt at dumbing down the nation. They focus so much on opinion shows and so little on presenting naked facts, they pretty much rob the people of using their brains. You can easily see this when you ask people for evidence for their claims. Often they'll get angry and go all "Bah, evidence, just listen to what I just told you...who are you gonna believe? Those experts and evil scientists?".

The people are being systematically trained to distrust facts that go against the worldview they have been brainwashed with. And they're too blind and brainwashed to get out of it, because they now refuse to look at naked facts if they're not wrapped in a pretty costume and presented by their favorite news show host. So sad...and it'll lead to the ultimate downfall of this country eventually



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 12:00 PM
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Fox new is full of sh*t. I just watched a piece on youtube from FOX news where they were talking about some 'miracle'
drink that helps to control HIV infections. The news anchor goes on to say 'whatever the guys name is' had been positive since the 1980's and had a viral load of 13, 000 before he started drinking this miracle drink which meant he was very sick, and now his viral load was undetectable.

Any doctor can tell you that a viral load of under 40, 000 is considered 'undetectable', and theres no way in hell a viral load would make someone 'very sick' at 13,000. Infact anyone that is HIV + would LOVE a consistent viral load of 13,000. Ofcourse the HIV men(a couple) being interviewed are blacked out in shadows as to not want to reveal their identity, and at the end of the interview go on to say, 'anyone that has HIV should get this drink, also continue to take your medication, but also buy this drink'.

Yes continue to spend thousands on your medications, but also add this other 'miracle' drink to your daily regime. Quacks.



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 12:36 PM
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I refuse to watch MSM cable shows anymore. They are specifically designed to get you angry and full of hatred to a point that you want to vote AGAINST something not FOR it. There is a very clear difference. I can feel my blood pressure rise and my face get flush when I watched these shows. This does not happen when I watch other, non-biased news shows. The discussion is always two-sided. It may be passionate, but it is never hateful and angry like on cable news shows.

I really hope if something good were to come out of this, it would be that people will have learned their lesson about the hateful/angry/violent rhetoric they have CHOSEN to use. People have been complaining about it for a long time. Asking them to tone it down. Why is it that in this country someone has to die in order for us to learn our lesson despite all the warning calls?



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 12:37 PM
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The Young Turks are statists.

Why should I want to view someone that supports State propaganda?

That is exactly what I am angry about.



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 02:02 PM
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Further proof that yet again the entire American MSM is controlled to spew whatever crud and rhetoric their corporate masters want them to report as entities like Russia Today do not and will not ever answer to the likes of News Corporation, Co., Comcast/NBCiUniversal, Time-Warmer Company.



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 02:07 PM
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Originally posted by mnemeth1
reply to post by MrXYZ
 


The Young Turks are statists.

Why should I want to view someone that supports State propaganda?

That is exactly what I am angry about.



What state propaganda do they support? Last I checked their critical of the current government, and Cenk seems to have a lot of contempt for Obama as of late...



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 02:10 PM
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He only has contempt for Obama because he feels Obama is not statist enough!

The YT WANT communism.

They desire a totally centrally planned authoritarian state that uses violence to achieve its social agenda.

That is what they desire.



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 02:11 PM
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Listen to Peter pick apart Cenk's arguments.



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 02:16 PM
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Originally posted by mnemeth1
Ridiculous? I think so.

I personally find it amazing that the majority of the American mainstream media acts as nothing more than a government propaganda outlet with almost ZERO investigative reporting.



Ah, look who funds the news and benefits from the propaganda???

You are looking at a revenue generating machine in its simplest form -

It is an investment to benefit a larger community of investments, there is no need for it to threaten the system that it benefits from.

This is exactly what I am always on about, compounded capital has far more power than the binding "worth" of that capital.



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 02:19 PM
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They've never promoted violence or anything else you claim



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 02:34 PM
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Originally posted by mnemeth1
Listen to Peter pick apart Cenk's arguments.



And watch Peter lose


Peter overlooks exactly what you over look -

There is no way you can be aware of what your bank is doing, so this process Peter is talking about is lip service.

There is no incentive for executives to behave responsibly with other peoples money... they are protected by the entity they represent. They make millions upon millions regardless, per their signing contract -


As Cenk said Canada is way more regulated and look at their economy -

Peter failed



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 02:34 PM
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Dude, the entire time Cenk is arguing for more government regulation in the video I just posted.

That is exactly the same as saying he wants MORE violence injected into the financial system.

Look, you need laws that protect property rights and against fraud.

Those laws don't need to be more than a few pages long.

Right now, there are tens of thousands of pages of regulations that financial services have to comply with.

The existence of the Fed itself is a "regulation"

The management and control of interest rates is "regulation"

The bailouts of banks and the guarantees of deposits is "regulation"

Legal tender laws are "regulations"

ALL OF THOSE REQUIRE THE USE OF VIOLENT FORCE AGAINST PEOPLE WHO HAVE HARMED NO ONE.

If someone commits fraud, you punish them.

If someone steals from someone else, you punish them.

However, you don't need government telling businesses how they should be run to accomplish those tasks.


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posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 02:40 PM
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Originally posted by mnemeth1
reply to post by MrXYZ
 


Dude, the entire time Cenk is arguing for more government regulation in the video I just posted.

That is exactly the same as saying he wants MORE violence injected into the financial system.

Look, you need laws that protect property rights and against fraud.

Those laws don't need to be more than a few pages long.

Right now, there are tens of thousands of pages of regulations that financial services have to comply with.

The existence of the Fed itself is a "regulation"

The management and control of interest rates is "regulation"

The bailouts of banks and the guarantees of deposits is "regulation"

Legal tender laws are "regulations"

ALL OF THOSE REQUIRE THE USE OF VIOLENT FORCE AGAINST PEOPLE WHO HAVE HARMED NO ONE.



But you don't seem to care if the violence is perpetrated on people who actually WORK for their money.

See and when we get harmed you say tough crap - you should have been in the board meeting
lame



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 02:41 PM
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What the hell are you talking about?

If I didn't care about the violence directed against innocent people by government, I wouldn't bother arguing in this forum at all.

Who do you think wants people who work to keep more of their money - me or you?

Who do you think wants people to get paid in a currency that isn't counterfeited by government - me or you?

Who do you think wants the banking cartel dismantled and the major banks to go bankrupt - me or you?


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