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Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
Good find.
IMO it is not possible at all that this is due to icecaps melting, you know why? Because the melted ice should have gone somewhere and it would mean a global ocean rise which would have been noticed.
Such a melting would have resulted in a few hundreds of feet of ice been melted on both poles and that would have caused several islands to dissapear completely. So imo the change happened on the crust of the Earth. For some unknown reason the crust has been either compressed at the Ecuador, or we had the landmasses of both poles rise at once.
A lot of people don't want to believe this, but there are large changes occurring in the Solar System which are affecting all planets, and not just Earth, so again in my opinion something from outside the Solar System is the culprit to this event, but I could be wrong.
edit on 13-1-2011 by ElectricUniverse because: errors.
Originally posted by Human_Alien
Originally posted by ThePeopleParty
I noticed a few months ago, that in the UK the moon seams to be traveling across the sky faster? It appears earlier in the day and as gone out of site by around 9pm where I live.
This wasnt the case about a year ago as I was laid in bed with my gf one night and we were looking at the full moon out of our window and that was around midnight ish. There is no way the moon will be visible at midnight now with the speed in which it seams to move across the sky.
Maybe this is natural? And iv never noticed before, but I did find it strange.
It's interesting because I read somewhere that even if a severe magnetic shift (flip) happens, it will affect the Moon too bringing it in a bit closer to Earth.
Seems far fetched but you know what? So does the official-news these day too!
Polar shift, If the poles shift, for ex: 100 miles to the right or the left. From a visual stand point, you only notice it in the form of time. What I mean is, the earth itself is not tilting up and down, it adjusting its spin left or right to coincide with the poles ( as the earth spins on the poles themselves) , What once was a mid day sun, is now off one way or the other given the direction of the shift. the closer you are to the poles, the more drastic this time shift appears, Where as, as you travel toward the equator, it becomes less noticeable. I hope I explained this correctly, kind of hard to give a short explanation of the affect.
Research suggests that the poles are shifting towards Russia ...
I believe the poles are reading themselves for a shift ( flip). A historical moment to say the least.
Originally posted by Human_Alien
New documentary recounts bizarre climate changes seen by Inuit elders
"Imagine how this feels: The land and weather are turning erratic and dangerous. Warmer, unpredictable winds are coming from strange directions. Severe floods threaten to wash away towns. And native animals, the food supply, aren’t behaving as they used to, their bodies less capable in the changing climate.
Even stranger is the fact that the sun now appears to set many kilometres off its usual point on the horizon, and the stars are no longer where they should be. Is the Earth shifting on its axis, causing the very look of the sun and stars to change?...
..."Most startling for the filmmakers, though, was the Inuits’ belief that along with pollution and environmental changes, caused mainly by Southerners, the Earth has actually changed its tilt. The filmmakers kept hearing this theory in different communities. Perplexed, they contacted the U.S. National Aeronautics and Space Administration for answers, but experts said this was impossible.
When the filmmakers presented some of their findings at the Copenhagen conference on climate change last year, the media picked up on these views of the Inuit subjects, film co-director Ian Mauro says, and alarm bells started to ring in the scientific community. “We had a litany of scientists come back to us, responding after seeing this news, saying, ‘This was great to be speaking to indigenous people about their views, but if you continue to perpetuate this fallacy that the Earth had tilted on its axis, [the Inuit] .... would lose all credibility.’ And so there was really this backlash by the scientific community.”
Still, the Inuit insist they see changes in the sun’s course and the position of the stars in the night sky. “These elders, when they were growing up, they were told to go out every morning, before having anything to eat. They were told to go out at the age of 5 every morning to observe the weather,” Kunuk says. “So when they started talking about the sun and the sunset, I was puzzled too. Everywhere I went, each community, I was getting the same answer: The sun does not settle where it used to. I mean, it [causes] alarm.”
The scientific explanation is that the warming Arctic air is causing temperature inversions, which in turn cause the light of the sunset to refract so that the sun appears to be setting a few kilometres off-kilter. “There is so much garbage in the air, it’s refraction that’s causing our elders to think our world has tilted,” Kunuk says...
www.isuma.tv...
Originally posted by ns9504
The 8.8 Chilean earthquake last year altered the earth's axis. A quick google search found these:
"The Chile earthquake isn’t the first or the only natural disaster that changed the Earth’s shift. In fact, a day’s length was shortened by 6.8 microseconds after the tsunami of 2004. Benjamin Fong Chao of NASA‘s Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland explained in 2005, “Any worldly event that involves the movement of mass affects the Earth’s rotation.”
inhabitat.com...
"...scientists at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory say that global warming could actually alter the tilt of our planet’s axis due to instability from melting ice sheets..."
inhabitat.com...
It seems that a combination of earth changes we experience may be the reason, but it does seem odd (or potentially frightening) that a 2 day change in the sunrise happened in just a year. Yikes.
Originally posted by AeonStorm
Polar shift, If the poles shift, for ex: 100 miles to the right or the left. From a visual stand point, you only notice it in the form of time. What I mean is, the earth itself is not tilting up and down, it adjusting its spin left or right to coincide with the poles ( as the earth spins on the poles themselves) , What once was a mid day sun, is now off one way or the other given the direction of the shift. the closer you are to the poles, the more drastic this time shift appears, Where as, as you travel toward the equator, it becomes less noticeable. I hope I explained this correctly, kind of hard to give a short explanation of the affect.
Research suggests that the poles are shifting towards Russia ...
I believe the poles are reading themselves for a shift ( flip). A historical moment to say the least.
I believe I understand you're train of thought here. You are basically suggesting that if physical deceleration or acceleration of the rotation of the earth is occurring that this would change the time of sunrise/sunset and that the poles would be the first place that this phenomenon would be drastically detected due to the time of year when the earth is near it's most tilted position, is this correct? (If I misunderstood you correctly please let me know)
If this were true though the change in sunrises and sunsets around the globe would all change. Also the north pole that is currently heading towards Siberia which you are pointing out is true magnetic north and not the north pole as you are perceiving it.
Hope this helps you understand? (as long as I inferred correctly)
Peace and Respect,
ASedit on 13-1-2011 by AeonStorm because: Structureedit on 13-1-2011 by AeonStorm because: "edit on 13-1-2011 by AeonStorm because: SP
Originally posted by shikori
The closer we get to 2012 the weirder it gets.
Originally posted by greenCo
Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
Good find.
IMO it is not possible at all that this is due to icecaps melting, you know why? Because the melted ice should have gone somewhere and it would mean a global ocean rise which would have been noticed.
Such a melting would have resulted in a few hundreds of feet of ice been melted on both poles and that would have caused several islands to dissapear completely. So imo the change happened on the crust of the Earth. For some unknown reason the crust has been either compressed at the Ecuador, or we had the landmasses of both poles rise at once.
A lot of people don't want to believe this, but there are large changes occurring in the Solar System which are affecting all planets, and not just Earth, so again in my opinion something from outside the Solar System is the culprit to this event, but I could be wrong.
edit on 13-1-2011 by ElectricUniverse because: errors.
I think you have a very good point here. If the entire solar system is raising their frecuency, it means that everything is moving faster, even the spinning speed of the earth. We can´t be aware of this by physical devices because our clocks or any measure device or material for that matter, are rising their frecuency also (quartz from example), so it keeps showing the same 24 hour per day data, or any data that you are getting from it. But you can "sense" that the time is speeding and the days and weeks seems shorter than before. If that is true it makes sense that because of the greater relative rotational speed, the earth is being compressed at the ecuador, lowering the horizon lines in the poles.
And please excuse my english. Trying to explain this kind of ideas in a foreign language its melting my mind.
Originally posted by VI0811
Originally posted by AeonStorm
Polar shift, If the poles shift, for ex: 100 miles to the right or the left. From a visual stand point, you only notice it in the form of time. What I mean is, the earth itself is not tilting up and down, it adjusting its spin left or right to coincide with the poles ( as the earth spins on the poles themselves) , What once was a mid day sun, is now off one way or the other given the direction of the shift. the closer you are to the poles, the more drastic this time shift appears, Where as, as you travel toward the equator, it becomes less noticeable. I hope I explained this correctly, kind of hard to give a short explanation of the affect.
Research suggests that the poles are shifting towards Russia ...
I believe the poles are reading themselves for a shift ( flip). A historical moment to say the least.
I believe I understand you're train of thought here. You are basically suggesting that if physical deceleration or acceleration of the rotation of the earth is occurring that this would change the time of sunrise/sunset and that the poles would be the first place that this phenomenon would be drastically detected due to the time of year when the earth is near it's most tilted position, is this correct? (If I misunderstood you correctly please let me know)
If this were true though the change in sunrises and sunsets around the globe would all change. Also the north pole that is currently heading towards Siberia which you are pointing out is true magnetic north and not the north pole as you are perceiving it.
Hope this helps you understand? (as long as I inferred correctly)
Peace and Respect,
ASedit on 13-1-2011 by AeonStorm because: Structureedit on 13-1-2011 by AeonStorm because: "edit on 13-1-2011 by AeonStorm because: SP
Correct, that's why I say the notice-ability of the time shift would be less noticeable at the equator. As in you might look up and think, the sun looks a little odd today, but at the poles, one would be sure that somethings a miss ...edit on 13-1-2011 by VI0811 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Human_Alien
Let me ask a question.
Why can't Earth AND the stars be relocating/moving (tilting if you will) at the same time?
Let me put it this way please. We gauge our position here on Earth by the proximity of other stars and planets, right?
So whose to say, the whole entire galaxy isn't moving at the same time?
If Earth tilted, what would be the give-away? The location of the other stars/planets, right? But what if, there's a galactic event (yet known to modern man) where every satellite in a galaxy experiences change all at once?
We obviously haven't figured things out here on Earth so I wouldn't put too much onus and trust in the people in charge of telling us what's going on off - Earth at this juncture.
Originally posted by AeonStorm
Originally posted by VI0811
Originally posted by AeonStorm
Polar shift, If the poles shift, for ex: 100 miles to the right or the left. From a visual stand point, you only notice it in the form of time. What I mean is, the earth itself is not tilting up and down, it adjusting its spin left or right to coincide with the poles ( as the earth spins on the poles themselves) , What once was a mid day sun, is now off one way or the other given the direction of the shift. the closer you are to the poles, the more drastic this time shift appears, Where as, as you travel toward the equator, it becomes less noticeable. I hope I explained this correctly, kind of hard to give a short explanation of the affect.
Research suggests that the poles are shifting towards Russia ...
I believe the poles are reading themselves for a shift ( flip). A historical moment to say the least.
I believe I understand you're train of thought here. You are basically suggesting that if physical deceleration or acceleration of the rotation of the earth is occurring that this would change the time of sunrise/sunset and that the poles would be the first place that this phenomenon would be drastically detected due to the time of year when the earth is near it's most tilted position, is this correct? (If I misunderstood you correctly please let me know)
If this were true though the change in sunrises and sunsets around the globe would all change. Also the north pole that is currently heading towards Siberia which you are pointing out is true magnetic north and not the north pole as you are perceiving it.
Hope this helps you understand? (as long as I inferred correctly)
Peace and Respect,
ASedit on 13-1-2011 by AeonStorm because: Structureedit on 13-1-2011 by AeonStorm because: "edit on 13-1-2011 by AeonStorm because: SP
Correct, that's why I say the notice-ability of the time shift would be less noticeable at the equator. As in you might look up and think, the sun looks a little odd today, but at the poles, one would be sure that somethings a miss ...edit on 13-1-2011 by VI0811 because: (no reason given)
Yes but what I was getting at is that these are all measurable. I do understand that the effect would be most noticeable at the poles because of the tilt but would you not think that this change would have been picked up globally, however minute the change is, due to the linear aspect?edit on 13-1-2011 by AeonStorm because: Add Infoedit on 13-1-2011 by AeonStorm because: comma