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posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 05:33 PM
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Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
Good find.


IMO it is not possible at all that this is due to icecaps melting, you know why? Because the melted ice should have gone somewhere and it would mean a global ocean rise which would have been noticed.

Such a melting would have resulted in a few hundreds of feet of ice been melted on both poles and that would have caused several islands to dissapear completely. So imo the change happened on the crust of the Earth. For some unknown reason the crust has been either compressed at the Ecuador, or we had the landmasses of both poles rise at once.

A lot of people don't want to believe this, but there are large changes occurring in the Solar System which are affecting all planets, and not just Earth, so again in my opinion something from outside the Solar System is the culprit to this event, but I could be wrong.


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I think you have a very good point here. If the entire solar system is raising their frecuency, it means that everything is moving faster, even the spinning speed of the earth. We can´t be aware of this by physical devices because our clocks or any measure device or material for that matter, are rising their frecuency also (quartz from example), so it keeps showing the same 24 hour per day data, or any data that you are getting from it. But you can "sense" that the time is speeding and the days and weeks seems shorter than before. If that is true it makes sense that because of the greater relative rotational speed, the earth is being compressed at the ecuador, lowering the horizon lines in the poles.
And please excuse my english. Trying to explain this kind of ideas in a foreign language its melting my mind.




posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 05:37 PM
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Originally posted by Human_Alien

Originally posted by ThePeopleParty
I noticed a few months ago, that in the UK the moon seams to be traveling across the sky faster? It appears earlier in the day and as gone out of site by around 9pm where I live.

This wasnt the case about a year ago as I was laid in bed with my gf one night and we were looking at the full moon out of our window and that was around midnight ish. There is no way the moon will be visible at midnight now with the speed in which it seams to move across the sky.

Maybe this is natural? And iv never noticed before, but I did find it strange.


It's interesting because I read somewhere that even if a severe magnetic shift (flip) happens, it will affect the Moon too bringing it in a bit closer to Earth.
Seems far fetched but you know what? So does the official-news these day too!


This comments called my atention. Years ago, I've seen the moon closer in OB experiences , at daylight and close enough to see craters with naked eyes. Then a few fireballs hitting ground and people running.



posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 05:47 PM
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Polar shift, If the poles shift, for ex: 100 miles to the right or the left. From a visual stand point, you only notice it in the form of time. What I mean is, the earth itself is not tilting up and down, it adjusting its spin left or right to coincide with the poles ( as the earth spins on the poles themselves) , What once was a mid day sun, is now off one way or the other given the direction of the shift. the closer you are to the poles, the more drastic this time shift appears, Where as, as you travel toward the equator, it becomes less noticeable. I hope I explained this correctly, kind of hard to give a short explanation of the affect.

Research suggests that the poles are shifting towards Russia ...
I believe the poles are reading themselves for a shift ( flip). A historical moment to say the least.



I believe I understand you're train of thought here. You are basically suggesting that if physical deceleration or acceleration of the rotation of the earth is occurring that this would change the time of sunrise/sunset and that the poles would be the first place that this phenomenon would be drastically detected due to the time of year when the earth is near it's most tilted position, is this correct? (If I misunderstood you please let me know)

If this were true though the change in sunrises and sunsets around the globe would all change. Also the north pole that is currently heading towards Siberia which you are pointing out is true magnetic north and not the north pole as you are perceiving it.

Hope this helps you understand? (as long as I inferred correctly)

Peace and Respect,

AS
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posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 05:51 PM
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The 8.8 Chilean earthquake last year altered the earth's axis. A quick google search found these:

"The Chile earthquake isn’t the first or the only natural disaster that changed the Earth’s shift. In fact, a day’s length was shortened by 6.8 microseconds after the tsunami of 2004. Benjamin Fong Chao of NASA‘s Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland explained in 2005, “Any worldly event that involves the movement of mass affects the Earth’s rotation.”
inhabitat.com...

"...scientists at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory say that global warming could actually alter the tilt of our planet’s axis due to instability from melting ice sheets..."
inhabitat.com...

It seems that a combination of earth changes we experience may be the reason, but it does seem odd (or potentially frightening) that a 2 day change in the sunrise happened in just a year. Yikes.



posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 05:56 PM
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And THIS.....is why HAARP was set up folks!



Chief NOAA scientist "The North Pole is moving Rapidly" Plus Pole Shift or Reversal also Confirmed




Earth (solar system?) is changing.
People denying this rather remain in this safe zone bubble of theirs and come up with every reason and excuse imaginable rather than face the uncertain possible truth of the matter.

This has been talked about for years. Decades. And now we're starting to see signs of this change people still rather ignore it.
I can't help that. I can only share what I'm discovering.

Food shortage is on the horizon too. Better buckle up cause this doesn't look like it'll be a very pleasant year!



posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 06:02 PM
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The closer we get to 2012 the weirder it gets.



posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 06:04 PM
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Originally posted by Human_Alien
New documentary recounts bizarre climate changes seen by Inuit elders

"Imagine how this feels: The land and weather are turning erratic and dangerous. Warmer, unpredictable winds are coming from strange directions. Severe floods threaten to wash away towns. And native animals, the food supply, aren’t behaving as they used to, their bodies less capable in the changing climate.

Even stranger is the fact that the sun now appears to set many kilometres off its usual point on the horizon, and the stars are no longer where they should be. Is the Earth shifting on its axis, causing the very look of the sun and stars to change?...

..."Most startling for the filmmakers, though, was the Inuits’ belief that along with pollution and environmental changes, caused mainly by Southerners, the Earth has actually changed its tilt. The filmmakers kept hearing this theory in different communities. Perplexed, they contacted the U.S. National Aeronautics and Space Administration for answers, but experts said this was impossible.

When the filmmakers presented some of their findings at the Copenhagen conference on climate change last year, the media picked up on these views of the Inuit subjects, film co-director Ian Mauro says, and alarm bells started to ring in the scientific community. “We had a litany of scientists come back to us, responding after seeing this news, saying, ‘This was great to be speaking to indigenous people about their views, but if you continue to perpetuate this fallacy that the Earth had tilted on its axis, [the Inuit] .... would lose all credibility.’ And so there was really this backlash by the scientific community.”

Still, the Inuit insist they see changes in the sun’s course and the position of the stars in the night sky. “These elders, when they were growing up, they were told to go out every morning, before having anything to eat. They were told to go out at the age of 5 every morning to observe the weather,” Kunuk says. “So when they started talking about the sun and the sunset, I was puzzled too. Everywhere I went, each community, I was getting the same answer: The sun does not settle where it used to. I mean, it [causes] alarm.”

The scientific explanation is that the warming Arctic air is causing temperature inversions, which in turn cause the light of the sunset to refract so that the sun appears to be setting a few kilometres off-kilter. “There is so much garbage in the air, it’s refraction that’s causing our elders to think our world has tilted,” Kunuk says...
www.isuma.tv...




Interesting to say the least. We are still in a cycle/natures way of galactical seasonal change if you will. The last time we hit this cycle was around 35 million years ago ( Galactic pass through equinox/equator ) . Although, we go in 25,800 a year ( give or take ) cycles in-between this galactic cycle. To understand this and what is happening, we need to understand precession. This is where the earth literally shifts 1 degree on its access every 72 years going through the 25,800 cycle. ( this is not the natural wobble of the earths spin ) Divided into 12 cycles by the ancients representing the houses of the zodiac and the marking of changes in the planets climate and position relative to the sun and the stars. Those are in 2160 intervals. Each interval represents a change in the earth, the climate, the view of the stars and the sun and tilt increases or decreases depending on the point at which we sit in precession. What makes our next new age historical, is the fact that we are passing into the galactic equinox/equator. This 35 million year occurrence coincides with the 25,800 cycle. We do not however, actually pass through the galactic equator, as we enter into it then back out like bouncing a ball on the ground. The ball doesn't pass through the ground, it stay on the upside of it ( hope that makes sense ). We are entering a new age with a historical kick from the galactic equator making this one extremely memorable. Creating change on all planets in our system, not just ours. You might just wake up and see a blue Mars after the dust settles, or maybe even a cooling of Venus's climate. ( although unlikely ) Its the age of Aquarius. New position, a new look and new age, which will last 2160 until we pass into the next age. Which also provide a new look etc...
All things in motion stay in motion, remember, this has been building up for the last 2000 years and speeds up as we near the end of this age.

All I am hoping is that our power gird doesn't get fried in the process. Although we can produce our own power without the grid.



posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 06:08 PM
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Yukon experiencing later sunsets
Sunset 1/7/11 4:10PM

At 5:02 it still remains dusk?





posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 06:09 PM
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Originally posted by ns9504
The 8.8 Chilean earthquake last year altered the earth's axis. A quick google search found these:

"The Chile earthquake isn’t the first or the only natural disaster that changed the Earth’s shift. In fact, a day’s length was shortened by 6.8 microseconds after the tsunami of 2004. Benjamin Fong Chao of NASA‘s Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland explained in 2005, “Any worldly event that involves the movement of mass affects the Earth’s rotation.”
inhabitat.com...

"...scientists at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory say that global warming could actually alter the tilt of our planet’s axis due to instability from melting ice sheets..."
inhabitat.com...

It seems that a combination of earth changes we experience may be the reason, but it does seem odd (or potentially frightening) that a 2 day change in the sunrise happened in just a year. Yikes.


Now this actually is interesting as I could see how some forces acting in perpendicular directions could affect the earth's rotation. However I believe you are right when you say that a 2 day change in sunrise is (paraphrasing here) extreme.

Check out my post from earlier: www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 06:09 PM
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Originally posted by AeonStorm


Polar shift, If the poles shift, for ex: 100 miles to the right or the left. From a visual stand point, you only notice it in the form of time. What I mean is, the earth itself is not tilting up and down, it adjusting its spin left or right to coincide with the poles ( as the earth spins on the poles themselves) , What once was a mid day sun, is now off one way or the other given the direction of the shift. the closer you are to the poles, the more drastic this time shift appears, Where as, as you travel toward the equator, it becomes less noticeable. I hope I explained this correctly, kind of hard to give a short explanation of the affect.

Research suggests that the poles are shifting towards Russia ...
I believe the poles are reading themselves for a shift ( flip). A historical moment to say the least.





I believe I understand you're train of thought here. You are basically suggesting that if physical deceleration or acceleration of the rotation of the earth is occurring that this would change the time of sunrise/sunset and that the poles would be the first place that this phenomenon would be drastically detected due to the time of year when the earth is near it's most tilted position, is this correct? (If I misunderstood you correctly please let me know)

If this were true though the change in sunrises and sunsets around the globe would all change. Also the north pole that is currently heading towards Siberia which you are pointing out is true magnetic north and not the north pole as you are perceiving it.

Hope this helps you understand? (as long as I inferred correctly)

Peace and Respect,

AS
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Correct, that's why I say the notice-ability of the time shift would be less noticeable at the equator. As in you might look up and think, the sun looks a little odd today, but at the poles, one would be sure that somethings a miss ...
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posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 06:09 PM
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Originally posted by shikori
The closer we get to 2012 the weirder it gets.



And to think we still have two more years left to go yet! (one year, eleven months and 6 day not including leap day next year)



posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 06:11 PM
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Originally posted by greenCo

Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
Good find.


IMO it is not possible at all that this is due to icecaps melting, you know why? Because the melted ice should have gone somewhere and it would mean a global ocean rise which would have been noticed.

Such a melting would have resulted in a few hundreds of feet of ice been melted on both poles and that would have caused several islands to dissapear completely. So imo the change happened on the crust of the Earth. For some unknown reason the crust has been either compressed at the Ecuador, or we had the landmasses of both poles rise at once.

A lot of people don't want to believe this, but there are large changes occurring in the Solar System which are affecting all planets, and not just Earth, so again in my opinion something from outside the Solar System is the culprit to this event, but I could be wrong.


edit on 13-1-2011 by ElectricUniverse because: errors.



I think you have a very good point here. If the entire solar system is raising their frecuency, it means that everything is moving faster, even the spinning speed of the earth. We can´t be aware of this by physical devices because our clocks or any measure device or material for that matter, are rising their frecuency also (quartz from example), so it keeps showing the same 24 hour per day data, or any data that you are getting from it. But you can "sense" that the time is speeding and the days and weeks seems shorter than before. If that is true it makes sense that because of the greater relative rotational speed, the earth is being compressed at the ecuador, lowering the horizon lines in the poles.
And please excuse my english. Trying to explain this kind of ideas in a foreign language its melting my mind.


I disagree, I believe we are already noticing the time differential., through failing cell phone alarms and airports making marker and flight path adjustments ... All you have to do is look up and then look at your watch and notice that it just seems off ....
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posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 06:21 PM
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man, if someone finds information that this happened on the other side of the earth too i'm gonna have a stroke. of course, one way or the other this is BAD news. either the ice is melting waaaaaaaaaaay faster than we've been told or the entire earth is off it's axis by a pretty big amount.



posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 06:23 PM
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Originally posted by VI0811

Originally posted by AeonStorm


Polar shift, If the poles shift, for ex: 100 miles to the right or the left. From a visual stand point, you only notice it in the form of time. What I mean is, the earth itself is not tilting up and down, it adjusting its spin left or right to coincide with the poles ( as the earth spins on the poles themselves) , What once was a mid day sun, is now off one way or the other given the direction of the shift. the closer you are to the poles, the more drastic this time shift appears, Where as, as you travel toward the equator, it becomes less noticeable. I hope I explained this correctly, kind of hard to give a short explanation of the affect.

Research suggests that the poles are shifting towards Russia ...
I believe the poles are reading themselves for a shift ( flip). A historical moment to say the least.





I believe I understand you're train of thought here. You are basically suggesting that if physical deceleration or acceleration of the rotation of the earth is occurring that this would change the time of sunrise/sunset and that the poles would be the first place that this phenomenon would be drastically detected due to the time of year when the earth is near it's most tilted position, is this correct? (If I misunderstood you correctly please let me know)

If this were true though the change in sunrises and sunsets around the globe would all change. Also the north pole that is currently heading towards Siberia which you are pointing out is true magnetic north and not the north pole as you are perceiving it.

Hope this helps you understand? (as long as I inferred correctly)

Peace and Respect,

AS
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Correct, that's why I say the notice-ability of the time shift would be less noticeable at the equator. As in you might look up and think, the sun looks a little odd today, but at the poles, one would be sure that somethings a miss ...
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Yes but what I was getting at is that these are all measurable. I do understand that the effect would be most noticeable at the poles because of the tilt but would you not think that this change would have been picked up globally, however minute the change is, due to the linear aspect?
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posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 06:29 PM
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First we lost Pluto and now they added another zodiac sign???
Ophiuchu s (Nov. 29-Dec. 17. )??? How the heck do you even pronounce it?

Oh yeah.....nothing changing here folks. It's business as usual


Horoscope Hang-Up: Earth Rotation Changes Zodiac Signs

The astronomers from the Minnesota Planetarium Society found that because of the moon's gravitational pull on Earth, the alignment of the stars was pushed by about a month.
news.yahoo.com...



posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 06:30 PM
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Originally posted by Human_Alien
Let me ask a question.
Why can't Earth AND the stars be relocating/moving (tilting if you will) at the same time?

Let me put it this way please. We gauge our position here on Earth by the proximity of other stars and planets, right?
So whose to say, the whole entire galaxy isn't moving at the same time?

If Earth tilted, what would be the give-away? The location of the other stars/planets, right? But what if, there's a galactic event (yet known to modern man) where every satellite in a galaxy experiences change all at once?

We obviously haven't figured things out here on Earth so I wouldn't put too much onus and trust in the people in charge of telling us what's going on off - Earth at this juncture.



We are heading for a galactic alignment with the center of our galaxy in the next two to five years, maybe. Also have heard about the central plane of crossing (not Nibiru people/it has a name but excapes me right now) which is possibly what all the galaxies go around? We don't have a clue what it does, only speculation. But that's within our sector right? So would it just happen to the Milky Way and not Andromeda or Sirius? Or happen to all galaxies at the same time? Who knows?
Interesting and food for collective thought. Maybe we should all dig on this one and add a puzzle piece - otherwise called brainstorming.
Thanks!



posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 06:31 PM
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Not sure what more some of you people want but to most of us, it's relatively clear. The Earth has and continues to tilt!



posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 06:32 PM
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OK, not gonna read all 7 pages, so forgive me if someone else has mentioned this...

According to the original link, the difference between the sun's highest positions on January 11 and 13 is 0.3°. Is it possible the observation point has shifted? If memory serves, there was a volcano erupting in Greenland a short time back. Could this be due to tectonic changes, similar to the expanding cauldron floor in Yellowstone?

If the crust has shifted by that 0.3°, then it would appear to the observers on that section of the crust that the sun was at a higher point than in previous years, and such a minute change would quite possibly have gone unnoticed by other means.

It is the only explanation I can think of which would provide the observed measurements without similar differences being measured globally.

TheRedneck



posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 06:33 PM
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Originally posted by AeonStorm

Originally posted by VI0811

Originally posted by AeonStorm


Polar shift, If the poles shift, for ex: 100 miles to the right or the left. From a visual stand point, you only notice it in the form of time. What I mean is, the earth itself is not tilting up and down, it adjusting its spin left or right to coincide with the poles ( as the earth spins on the poles themselves) , What once was a mid day sun, is now off one way or the other given the direction of the shift. the closer you are to the poles, the more drastic this time shift appears, Where as, as you travel toward the equator, it becomes less noticeable. I hope I explained this correctly, kind of hard to give a short explanation of the affect.

Research suggests that the poles are shifting towards Russia ...
I believe the poles are reading themselves for a shift ( flip). A historical moment to say the least.





I believe I understand you're train of thought here. You are basically suggesting that if physical deceleration or acceleration of the rotation of the earth is occurring that this would change the time of sunrise/sunset and that the poles would be the first place that this phenomenon would be drastically detected due to the time of year when the earth is near it's most tilted position, is this correct? (If I misunderstood you correctly please let me know)

If this were true though the change in sunrises and sunsets around the globe would all change. Also the north pole that is currently heading towards Siberia which you are pointing out is true magnetic north and not the north pole as you are perceiving it.

Hope this helps you understand? (as long as I inferred correctly)

Peace and Respect,

AS
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Correct, that's why I say the notice-ability of the time shift would be less noticeable at the equator. As in you might look up and think, the sun looks a little odd today, but at the poles, one would be sure that somethings a miss ...
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Yes but what I was getting at is that these are all measurable. I do understand that the effect would be most noticeable at the poles because of the tilt but would you not think that this change would have been picked up globally, however minute the change is, due to the linear aspect?
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I agree, the change can be measured and calculated, and probably predicted for more of a future shift/change. I believe it is happening everywhere, because it has to. Its just less noticeable, mainstream science still won't touch it, and they leave the rest of us noticing it, but since it so subtle, we tend to shrug it off. I believe, sometime in the next year or so, they will come out give us the info we all already know, not cause they want to, because they have to. By that time, it will be hard to shrug of the change.



posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 06:36 PM
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That volcano blew in April. Surely the first day of Polar darkness would've been off too.

Something (I believe) has recently happened. For some unexplained reason, I sense the 'change' happened during that winter solstice eclipse December 20-21.



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