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Jared Loughner's "New Bird" Imagery

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posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 07:05 PM
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I was just reading today why ufos in movies and tv are necular powered

en.wikipedia.org...




posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 07:13 PM
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Hello all,

A close friend of mine revealed what he believes to be the answer. I am not at liberty to discuss his name. He may only be called "Hephælios." He is a fellow alchemist.

Here is the supposed correct answer set forth by him in an email:


I don't have an account there and am unable to complete their application on my device. But I knew you have an account so if you're bored... You could answer the "riddle" set forth by the author. It goes:

"There's a new bird on my right shoulder. The beak is two feet and lime green. The rarest bird on earth, there's no feathers, but small grey scales all over the body. It's with one large red eye with a light blue iris. The bird feet are the same as a woodpecker. This new bird and there's only one, the gender is not female or male. The wings of this bird are beautiful; 3 feet wide with the shape of a bald eagle that you could die for. If you can see this bird then you will understand. You think this bird is able to chat about a government? "

Some of the replies are ridiculous. It's a sniper rifle. The wings are his arms (normal mans arm span is approximate 3ft). The scope is it's eye. The green beak is the gun stock. The barrel is grey and looking very close can look scaley. The bipod are the feet of the woodpecker. It has no gender. The shape of the bald eagle you could "die" for implies military training. It's carried on his right shoulder, I assume he's a right handed shooter. There's only one like his (reference to full metal jacket-Kubrick movie).

Here's a pic of what it may look like: www.airsoftstation.com...


Something is amiss here. Please investigate further.

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posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 07:23 PM
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Originally posted by Serpent of Arabia
Hello all,

A close friend of mine revealed the answer. I am not at liberty to discuss his name. He may only be called "Hephælios." He is a fellow alchemist, and metal smith.

Here is the correct answer set forth by him in an email:


I don't have an account there and am unable to complete their application on my device. But I knew you have an account so if you're bored... You could answer the "riddle" set forth by the author. It goes:

"There's a new bird on my right shoulder. The beak is two feet and lime green. The rarest bird on earth, there's no feathers, but small grey scales all over the body. It's with one large red eye with a light blue iris. The bird feet are the same as a woodpecker. This new bird and there's only one, the gender is not female or male. The wings of this bird are beautiful; 3 feet wide with the shape of a bald eagle that you could die for. If you can see this bird then you will understand. You think this bird is able to chat about a government? "

Some of the replies are ridiculous. It's a sniper rifle. The wings are his arms (normal mans arm span is approximate 3ft). The scope is it's eye. The green beak is the gun stock. The barrel is grey and looking very close can look scaley. The bipod are the feet of the woodpecker. It has no gender. The shape of the bald eagle you could "die" for implies military training. It's carried on his right shoulder, I assume he's a right handed shooter. There's only one like his (reference to full metal jacket-Kubrick movie).

Here's a pic of what it may look like: www.airsoftstation.com...


Something is amiss here. Please investigate further.
Are you shore your "friend" is not the illusive oswego. I cant realy see this as being the answer. I still think it might be the cockatrice bird its weird how thats the emblem for a observatory and he was obsessed with the 2012 conspiracy according to a interview of his friend



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 07:34 PM
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I respect the friend that revealed this information to me very much. I have no reason to believe he's wrong, nor any real reason to believe he's not being truthful.

The only thing I am "sure" of is that nothing is as it seems, and reality is far stranger than fiction.

Take that for what you will. I have nothing else constructive to add to this thread at the moment. Use reason, and the truth shall be revealed.



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 07:39 PM
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Hello J S
Haven't seen your friend around for a year or two, has he unscrambled this anagram?



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 07:49 PM
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I was following along with the other thread, and now have read through this one as well. I don't have the answer....but here are my thoughts.....

Maybe it's not exactly a metaphor or anegram... maybe some of it is, "trigger words" along the lines of what Cathy O'brien describes. (Ex: TRANCEformation of America; EN-TRANCE for entrance, etc.) Basically what I'm saying is, words with multiple meanings, or words that are different depending on where you put the emphasis.

It reminds me of the different examples Cathy O'brien gives in her book when she's explaining how her programmers manipulated language. (Which Jared also talks a lot about) They would say things that would have one meaning for anyone who overheard it, and have a completely different meaning for her.

A previous poster (can't remember who at the moment) mentioned that, "bird on my shoulder" could be burden on my shoulder....I think that is, at the very least, a good angle to follow up on.

I don't know why, but I have a feeling that if we can make sense of the last line, we'll be able to get the rest of it.

I feel like there is more to it than just metaphors that make a political statement.

Maybe he's trying to share a message using the word play techniques he learned from them?
Maybe the video's have been left up because they contain triggers for other sleepers?
...or maybe he's just insane.....but I don't think so. (Well, actually, I do think he is at least partially insane, but I think someone purposely made him that way.)

I could be wrong, of course. It's just a feeling I get when I read his stuff.

I think we need help from Columbo!



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 07:56 PM
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Hi, JS? You may call me Al.


It appear he has solved this riddle, and from my perspective it does seem absolutely correct. There's something sinister at play here, and it has ruffled my feathers. I am not sure what.
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posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 07:58 PM
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Was his answer in your last post?
Can't imagine that it's a gun of any type.



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 08:18 PM
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"Some of the replies are ridiculous. It's a sniper rifle. The wings are his arms (normal mans arm span is approximate 3ft). The scope is it's eye. The green beak is the gun stock. The barrel is grey and looking very close can look scaley. The bipod are the feet of the woodpecker. It has no gender. The shape of the bald eagle you could "die" for implies military training. It's carried on his right shoulder, I assume he's a right handed shooter. There's only one like his (reference to full metal jacket-Kubrick movie). "

He did say he was a sleeper, but he only used a handgun and he didn't have any military training. Tis a good interpretation but JLL did say himself that it was an anagram.
We must not forget though that this video was posted months ago and may not be his, it could be some sort of trigger video.



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 08:23 PM
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There almost certain to be his because he favourited the flag burning video on the day of the shooting



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 08:25 PM
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Ah, then I am not sure! I'll let you all know if I hear back from my friend.
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posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 08:30 PM
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This thread is not about him being guilty or innocent. I stopped. I stopped digging into the conspiracy of this. I took a look at my life. Losing a business losing a home not being able to grow veggies in my back yard. I took a look at my paycheck and how much of my hard work has paid off to taxes not my childrens food or clothes or better education. I took a look ... a close look at all his videos. I took a look into the other forums he used to belong to. I took a look at erad3 and his posts. I took a personal look at his sexuality. I am gay. I took a look into who he was and who he became. I took a look and saw a product of society. Wars, Bullies, Depression Drugs, Poverty, Suicides, Religion. If our government cannot solve problems without fighting each other and declaring wars on this earth that we all are supposed to share....then how can they expect us to be sane. How are we expected to be civil with one another......They are our leaders and so we follow in their footsteps. I took a look....a long hard look!


So maybe we all need to take a step back and take a look. It is time for change. for all of us to learn that there will be other Jerad Loughners if we continue on this path we are running down. Stop and walk and look around and clear our path for a better future.



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 08:33 PM
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Look at my first post on here! it is what is is and it is a lot scarier than a weapon or space falling on us. We cant do anything about those things but we can do something to change us!

The End...or beginning!



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 08:38 PM
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This is the one great teaching of all Masters. If we want to transmute the world - we must transmute ourselves. Become the change you want, and do not rely on others to change the world for you. It starts with us.



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 10:00 PM
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I just wan't to say,that i love you and your comment was beautiful.

That's what every american should see when looking at themselves in the Jared mirror.
Excellent writing my friend!



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 10:11 PM
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Thank you so much. That meant alot.



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 11:16 PM
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No problems amiga.
By the way,PEOPLE STOP IT WITH THE BIRD.
He's nuts,for all we know he was hallucinating because of drugs or sleep deprivation.
Go to Arizona and ask him what the darn bird means and stop trying to find out,or you'll turn crazy.

Or wait 2 weeks till he goes to his hearing in court.
It-will-be-interesting.

EDIT: and no the bird is not a gun.He had a glock with a high capacity magazine.The cops are now investigating where he got the money for it cause he couldn't have afforded it with his job. Thats like 500-1000$ i believe,i dunno.
The bird could be something else.i mean, Don't you know about the bird?The bird is the word.
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posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 11:36 PM
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So far I like the Space Patch and Korea theories the best. I'm working on my interpretation, so come back in a little while. In the meantime, I find it really interesting that he is to be the commander for the Orion mission. Orion is said to be the location of a stargate and a base for one of the negative reptilian factions of the ETs. I have said from the beginning that Giffords science, space, military committee seats and her husband's astronaut-ness play a bigger role in the story than is being let on.



posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 12:47 AM
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Hello 'gang'


There's a LOT of good input here. I want to reply to a lot of it and will later. At work right now and have huge headache (not from this though). Some of the metaphors seem good (seeing as he was poetic would make sense). The sniper gun threw me back for a second - mainly because the beak part fit (which has been lacking in some other items if it is a physical object). But then some other parts of the imagery do not fit to the sniper gun.

controldiction,
Inspirational words! Good heart
It is amazing that through-out history there has always been war, and somehow we still have not evolved past it. Post your other theory also, even if you think it is unlikely (my way out theory below is unlikely but tossing it out there for evaluation).

kyeleigh,
"Did you guys see the last one i posted on the other thread?"
The last what...can you post summary? Thanks!


WAY 'OUT THERE' THEORY
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Very much doubt this, but popped in my head. If he found military/government/NASA equipment that fell in the desert, could be a physical object he is describing. In the video he has one arm and if it was an object he found, it would have wings - but one wing was off so it was a 'downed bird' so to speak, where one of the wings were off. If it was flying equipment, then the beak (antennas on front of jets/planes), wings, eye (drones have one), etc... would fit. IF this were the case, I would state NASA or high altitude equipment because of the scales (like on bottom of shuttle). I am not leaning towards this mind you, but somehow the one arm in the video made me think of a downed one-arm bird. Weird I know - just tossing it out there as one of many ideas.


NOT RELATED, BUT INTERESTING
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Not related to the bird, but making sure full text of one of his myspace comments is included. He stated 'hopes to get out a live.' Not a suicide mission, or meaning get out alive of some bigger event? I was searching for a text and then got side-tracked on this...most sites had an image of this comment, but not the whole thing - so found it and posting for others.
  QUOTE: Goodbye friends. Please don't be mad at me. The literacy rate is below 5%. I haven't talked to one person who is literate. I want to make it out alive. The longest war in the history of the United States. Goodbye. I'm saddened with the current currency and job employment. I had a bully at school. Thank you. P.S. --plead the fifth!"


ANAGRAM
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Lastly, I am working on the anagram thing - it will take days I am sure. The poster of the other site gave a clue on how to narrow down the anagram: "When solving anagrams it is important to try key words likely used by the author. Some of these words could be names."

So I have to figure some keywords that are likely in the deciphered anagram (assuming the anagram is legit and not a dead end).

I have been playing with one sentence from within his video and am amazed at the results just from one sentence. It may just be coincidence, as enough letters will allow for pretty much any words. But I am just testing this sentence to find a method for me to follow. I have only played with half of it and have words such as 'Im truly sorry' 'gun' or 'gunner' 'shot' or 'shoot' etc... Again, may all be coincident and this is not from the bird quote, another quote. Just 'practicing' before tackling the big one. If you can get so much from one sentence, not sure how the paragraph in question will result (can make anything out of it). MASTER ANAGRAMMERS UNITE (please)!


LASTLY
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Saw some of the memorial on TV tonight. Bless the families that are going through loss. I somewhat hate to give attention to comments made by someone who caused pain to others. Hopefully something positive will come from looking into the meaning of some of this stuff. At least controldiction was moved to look within, hope we all can.
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posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 01:20 AM
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I am not finished with it quite yet. But I found some interesting things in the stars. Was looking into the new planet. A NASA video about it. On my phone at the moment so if u like go to nasa page. And there will be a video of this rocky planet. Watch It...you might find a bird.



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