Education thread: Clip Vs. Magazine, page 2
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reply posted on 13-1-2011 @ 07:22 AM by tiger5
reply to post by TasteTheTruth



Starred!

Thanks for the explanation. Sloppy terminology really irritates me. Can you now educate the media? Have a good day.
T


reply posted on 13-1-2011 @ 09:29 AM by BigDave-AR
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
Originally posted by BigDave-AR... if it was a friend I would correct and educate them but anyone else I would just let it go and know what they meant to say. It's not worth the effort trying to correct everyone when both terms will get the job done in a pinch, just IMO.


It's definitely a pick-and-choose type of battle. Nine times out of ten I wouldnt bother to correct anyone because it doesnt matter to me what they call what. They could say they are loading their cheeseburger into the bun for all I care.

When I would correct somebody is a) if they are using the wrong term with some sort of pompous authority and b) if I think that pointing out the correct term could genuinely lead to more teachable moments which would hopefully make the student a better gun owner all around like with some hip-hop doofy kid or some fumbling newbie who doesnt look very confident handling a firearm. Here we probably have a nice ice-breaker that could lead to real instruction as long as I dont come off like an ass and shout "hey, moron that's not a clip you idiot!!" That approach doesnt help anybody.

But if some old guy in the next stall over at the range used "clip" when he meant "mag" I wouldnt bother. He just doesnt care so I wouldnt either.


I completely agree with that, if the person is pompus about it or seems like they could genuinely learn from it I will take the time to try and educate them but with the vast majority of people these days it is not worth the breath or effort sadly. Lol that approach has been know to wake a few dopey people up.


It's like trying to convince tuners that there is no such thing as "Nawz" NOS is a company and is meant to be said as N-O-S not NAWZ, that always drove me insane but hey there idiots and it will take more than my words to break them off idiotic habits.
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reply posted on 13-1-2011 @ 10:35 PM by zombiesC4
reply to post by TasteTheTruth



It annoys me when people can't pronounce gun names right like the gewehr or M1 Garand.


reply posted on 14-1-2011 @ 07:48 AM by BigDave-AR
Originally posted by GrOuNd_ZeRo
I dare anyone in the military to say my gun is fed by a clip the NCO's will either tear you a new one or royally embarras you.

It's funny, some firearms manufacturing companies use the term clip for their magazines (shudders).


But you can't get much worse than this though, however the firearm illiterate won't see what's wrong with this one


I completely agree any D.I or NCO would hand you your ass and probably P.T you to death for that kind of mistake lol.

are you kidding me? On their product brochure? That is just scary I hope whoever pulled that little SNAFU got publicly humiliated and fired promptly that's just inexcusable. I mean really imagine a firearms noob trying to figure out which way the rounds went in the "clip" (lol just kidding guys don't hurt me lol) and looked at the and said "oh yeah that must be how it goes H&K put it in plain sight on their brochure"


reply posted on 9-2-2011 @ 07:51 AM by clintdelicious
reply to post by TheLoneArcher



Thats kool you got to fire a Lee Einfield! Im guessing you used the SLR for a good amount of time? Can I ask how you found it? Soldiers I've spoken to from that generation all give it a lot of praise and I'm curious if they might have used it still after the SA80 as a designated marksman weapon at all?

Nice thread. I know it a really small thing but it does wind me up and I know it annoys a lot of others too!


reply posted on 17-2-2011 @ 08:49 PM by TasteTheTruth
Originally posted by zombiesC4
reply to
post by TasteTheTruth



It annoys me when people can't pronounce gun names right like the gewehr or M1 Garand.


Or when you say M14 and their like yeah yeah, the M14 Garand right? And your like ummmm no.



reply posted on 18-2-2011 @ 12:23 AM by orangetom1999
Originally posted by Aggie Man
Originally posted by projectvxn
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post by Aggie Man



No, it is a magazine fed gun...



Not one single gun in existence that is clip-fed? Zero?



As someone posted earlier...the M1 Garand is clip fed from an 8 round end block Clip.

The SKS rifle is also Clip fed from an 10 round stripper clip.

For all that matter many military style bold action rifles are notched in the receivers to accept stripper clips to lod them. Most of them about 5 rounds in a stripper clip.

There are still lots of clip fed rifles in existance.

Also agree with some of the posters..those who want to learn the correct terminology ...I salute them. Most do not...particularly the news media hell bent on exploiting paranoia in the public about everything and anything.

My thanks to all for their posts,
Orangetom


reply posted on 18-2-2011 @ 12:25 AM by projectvxn
reply to post by orangetom1999



Except the M1 Garand, which is the rifle we all knew he was referring to has a built in magazine. The argument here is whether they are the same thing or not.

While the magazine is loaded with a clip, it is still a magazine fed gun.

On the rest, we agree.


reply posted on 20-2-2011 @ 01:42 AM by TasteTheTruth
Originally posted by projectvxn
reply to
post by orangetom1999



Except the M1 Garand, which is the rifle we all knew he was referring to has a built in magazine. The argument here is whether they are the same thing or not.

While the magazine is loaded with a clip, it is still a magazine fed gun.

On the rest, we agree.


This.
It is a magazine fed weapon.
The clip feeds rounds into the fixed magazine and is then discarded, the chamber closed thus feeding rounds from the magazine, and then the weapon is ready to fire.
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reply posted on 23-2-2011 @ 04:18 PM by zombiesC4
reply to post by TasteTheTruth



Lol exactly.People need to know stuff about guns incase something big happens.


reply posted on 24-2-2011 @ 01:11 PM by orangetom1999
Originally posted by TasteTheTruth
Originally posted by projectvxn
reply to
post by orangetom1999



Except the M1 Garand, which is the rifle we all knew he was referring to has a built in magazine. The argument here is whether they are the same thing or not.

While the magazine is loaded with a clip, it is still a magazine fed gun.

On the rest, we agree.


This.
It is a magazine fed weapon.
The clip feeds rounds into the fixed magazine and is then discarded, the chamber closed thus feeding rounds from the magazine, and then the weapon is ready to fire.
edit on 2/20/2011 by TasteTheTruth because: (no reason given)



What???!!! This also describes my 1903 Spingfield Bolt action with a five round stripper.

Orangetom
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