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Hey Canada and Uk, How's Your Left Right Paradigms?

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posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 05:58 PM
I am just curious how the left/right thing plays out in other countries, historically and now. How does your media report things? Are you seeing any changes in your media these days? How does conservatism play out in a progressive society? Do you consider yourselves a "progressive" country or is socialism something different?
Is profit and ratings a big motive in your media?
I ask these questions out of curiosity because I see our media adding more gas to fires than anything else. We have more commentary than reporting and it continues to divide and infuriate. But when the almighty dollar is the goal, all these time slots have to be filled and it seems to me that this is where the garbage comes in. Are we just victims of circumstance here, on a hijacked ride of misinformation?
I used to think the media was more of a reflection of society, but it seems to be moving to the opposite direction and now I think society is becoming more of a reflection of the media.


posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 06:05 PM
"Is profit and ratings a big motive in your media?"

yep, it's king im afraid here in the uk

posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 06:09 PM
Me personally I for one do not watch the the news as its all so depressing and they never show the good things in life.

id rather tune into ATS and get my daily news fix :p


posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 06:12 PM
The two main differences in Canada are...

1. We have multiple parties. This often means that a sitting government HAS to cooperate with others in order to get anything done. It also means that there are other groups in our parliment who are watching BOTH of the dominant party's (Liberal and Conservative) actions.

2. The media isn't really that different with the exception of the CBC, a publically funded radio/ TV channel that does actually do some investigating (although they are accused of showing a liberal bias, sometimes rightfully so).

Different system, especially given that we are more socialist then the US, but we still have the same problems.
edit on 11-1-2011 by [davinci] because: (no reason given)

posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 06:28 PM
UK Perspective Here.

There isnt much of a left/right way of thinking in regards to the media here in my opinion. It seems they get the story present it in one way (or which way that have been told too) and then move on to the next. Then make much more of a deal about it.

In regards to rating there doesnt seem to be much rivaly from what ive seen. You have BBC News, ITV and Channel 4 all on same time same place on their channels presenting the same stories.

There's a little more with BBC News 24 and Sky News 24 but as they run 24/7 most of the content they will battle over is in regards to the mini documentiers they produce.


posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 06:42 PM
Thanks for the replies guys, and I am glad you are not having this issue erode your society from the inside and out.
I am reminded of and old Tesla song:
Freedom Slaves

posted on Jan, 14 2011 @ 02:04 AM
I have to say that even though Canada has grown into itself these past few years it's media really hasn't changed much. It still investigates important events, and breaking news, and I haven't yet heard of the Canadian media blacking out certain stories like the US is famous for (oh, well except that time about 5 years ago when Canada, for reasons we the little people have been kept in the dark about, broke in to Haiti and toppled their democratic government, and destroyed their economy while causing thousands of civilian casualties).

I am pretty sure Canada is a hell of a lot more corrupt today then it was 10 years especially given the fact it apparently has it's own agenda in the middle east now rather then just supports US troops like it was previously. That being said, our media hasn't turned into CNN or FOX yet. Thank God.

posted on Jan, 14 2011 @ 07:26 PM
Canada, America's hat.

and i say that as a proud canadian, only becuase it's true.

people must realize that 90% of tv programing in Canada comes the the US. the only media we have (im on the west coast by the way) is a few local/provincal news stations and CBC, the national station. And ofcoarse newspapers... they all report on pointless things, really. And they will go in the direction america goes.. left/right... but its all pointless banter anyways..

to find out whats actually going on, you need to go online, talk to people, and read books/magazines.

and its very regulated, i remember reading in the book "the truth about canada" that 70% of the media in vancouver is now owned by the same company or something? i donno.. read that book though, you canadians!

Edit: re-read your post, and i like your final line : "society is becoming a reflection of the media"

i believe that to be true, and if it is, we're doomed
edit on 14-1-2011 by legitbrah because: (no reason given)

posted on Jan, 14 2011 @ 08:43 PM
reply to post by loagun

Thanks for the reply loagun, and I am curious if your tv stations utilize the "ratings" value like we do, as in designing a show/broadcast for the sake of gaining more viewers, therefore boosting ratings and earning them top dollar via sponsorship and commercials. I am guessing this is not how your stations operate, which is why there is more reporting and less sensationalism.
Our media has turned into a circus of epic proportions, and as someone else mentioned, ATS is a great place to get info these days. Not only local and timely reporting, but ability to chime in and learn or unlearn.
You mention Canada's "own interests" overseas and I am wondering if you mean oil, or something else?


posted on Jan, 14 2011 @ 08:53 PM
reply to post by legitbrah

to find out whats actually going on, you need to go online, talk to people, and read books/magazines.

You mean folks actually put forth an effort to seek information instead of having it spoon-fed in 46 flavors of varied punditry-liciousness?

and its very regulated

Scary word around here, but I personally support more, not total or too much, but certainly more than exists now, and in a few different areas too.

Thanks for the reply legitbrah and let's hope we're not doomed........serenity now, serenity now....


posted on Jan, 15 2011 @ 11:10 PM
No, folks dont generaly put forth that effort to dig deeper; all im saying is that if they wanted to, they wouldnt find anything good in the conservative canadian newspapers and news stations.

nobody cares (well maybe 10% do)

thats why were doomed

posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 11:38 PM
reply to post by speculativeoptimist

Yes they do use a rating's system for top spots, but as was mentioned by another Canadian poster 90% of our programming is from the US. However this only includes programming, and not news. Our news is our news, and like in the US there is the local and nation news played one after the other at the given times throughout the day. An interesting fact though, of that 90% of 'American' programming 40% of it is actually filmed in Canada(as I'm sure you have heard of Canada's nickname, Hollywood North). Vancouver, Toronto, and Montreal are filming locations for many tv drama's and sitcom's outside of just movies.

However as okay as our news is, if you want to know more you come online, but I am noticing since I wrote this I have no seen much if any reporting on the massive flooding, and state of emergency going on right now in Australia. You'd think there would be a little more reporting on a fellow commonwealth nation.

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