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British Geological Survey Warns of Pole Reversal and Expansion of South Atlantic Anomaly

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posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 06:18 AM
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infact combined with solar activity you won`t be able to go on the internet for years because all the transformers that supply your electrical needs won`t work,and you are not a roving wild carnivour or plant eater,not doom and gloom just science based fact,you are correct we won`t all die but think how much we all really on electricity,really think.things are happening ,thats all.
sorry if i detract ed to indepth OP.

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posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 06:30 AM
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Originally posted by stirling
The loss of this magnetic field meaqns also the loss of these huge currents of electricity, and the reversal of them, means the currents must also be reversed.
this requires a period where the currents actually stop.
no manetic field at this time, till the current flows the other way.
What the momentary loss of current(nobody knows how long it takes to reverse) will do to affect the earth is anybodys guess at this point.
I would surely like to hear some opinions as to what the mag field of earth is caused by.


I would have thought that a momentary 'stop' in the flows of current would mean that the Earth's protective shield to Solar winds and radiation would be ''down'' for however long the 'momentary stop' lasted....

Again reminds me of the film, The Core where suppossed 'breaches'' of our atmosphere allow in deadly radiation etc which causes destruction....

On a Global 'stop' then surely ALL Live on the planet is at risk ?

The more I read all these things then the more I resign myself to thinking - what will be will be....... There's not really a huge amount we could do.....Even if i was Rich, hiding in a hole in the ground with other rich people actually would scare me more !!

I'll just enjoy live whilst i am currently living it..
Regards

PDUK



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 06:38 AM
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This is awesome information! Being in SA, i've long been interested in the ozone hole ... i mean, we're going to be fried first, right?

But it seems that the thinning ozone hole is merely a naturally occuring variable, related to the strength of the magnetosphere. Great article here: WattsUpWithThat

Here a quick graphic to get the idea:


So the ozone is pulled to the South Pole by the magnetosphere, the stronger the magnetism, the smaller the hole. Which makes it a very good indicator of how much energy there is in the magnetosphere. There would be a number of other indicators, i just don't what they are right now.



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 06:44 AM
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Can someone please explain this video......please?
What is that?



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 06:45 AM
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Brilliant now that is official,scientists got it wrong what a admission WOW,heads up folks !al gore is truly past history and he was official ?.
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posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 07:38 AM
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Interesting stuff on Magnetic fields

National Geographic News: Earth's Core, Magnetic Field Changing Fast, Study Says
Rapid changes in the churning movement of Earth's liquid outer core are weakening the magnetic field in some regions of the planet's surface, a new study says.

"What is so surprising is that rapid, almost sudden, changes take place in the Earth's magnetic field," said study co-author Nils Olsen, a geophysicist at the Danish National Space Center in Copenhagen.

The findings suggest similarly quick changes are simultaneously occurring in the liquid metal, 1,900 miles (3,000 kilometers) below the surface, he said.

The swirling flow of molten iron and nickel around Earth's solid center triggers an electrical current, which generates the planet's magnetic field.

Flip-Flop

Fluctuations in the magnetic field have occurred in several far-flung regions of Earth, the researchers found.

In 2003 scientists found pronounced changes in the magnetic field in the Australasian region. In 2004, however, the changes were focused on Southern Africa.

The changes "may suggest the possibility of an upcoming reversal of the geomagnetic field," said study co-author Mioara Mandea, a scientist at the German Research Centre for Geosciences in Potsdam....

Magnetic Field Weakening in Stages, Old Ships' Logs Suggest


Geomagnetic Equator

Location of Geomagnetic Equator is a time function of geomagnetic dipole for the ARCTIC CELL see GMF & Arctic temperature

More GMF and temperature charts can be found here: Graphs and Formulae


Earth's Gravity pictured: news.bbc.co.uk...

Several sources indicate rapid changes in the earth's magnetic field. There also seems to be a correlation with Earth's Length of Day and the Earth's Length of Day seems to correlate with the changes in global temperature. GRAPH


North magnetic pole position shifts

Here’s another interesting correlation. The Position of the north magnetic pole has been shifting rapidly over the last several decades. The rate of change of it’s declination correlates with the variations in Earth’s length of day and the motion of the sun relative to the centre of mass of the solar system...

More interesting information on Earth’s magnetism and it’s relationship with the sun here: www.appinsys.com...

If the changes in Length of Day are related to changes in the circulation of currents of molten material beneath the Earth’s crust, we could speculate that magnetic iron ores are shifting their predominant accumulations and this affects the location of the magnetic north pole.



Guest post by Paul Vaughan, M.Sc. – August 18, 2010 Scientists characterize Earth rotation velocity using a variable they call length of day (LOD). The rate of change of LOD (LOD’) is related to global average wind patterns....

Comment by Malcolm Miller:
I worked on Earth rotation for 15 years at Mounts Stromlo Observatory. Anything that affects the mass distribution near the surface of the planet changes the moment of inertia enough to affect the rotation rate, whether distribution of air, water, wind, tree growth, of the movement of magma under the crust.


GRAPH #1
Graph #2
Graph #3

Abbreviations:
LOD = length of day
SCL = solar cycle length
AMO = Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation (Sea surface Temperature)
GLAAM = global atmospheric angular momentum
NOR = nutation in obliquity residual
[] indicates time-integration
SOI = Southern Oscillation Index



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 07:52 AM
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Originally posted by crimvelvet
reply to post by adept2u
 




Interesting stuff on Magnetic fields

National Geographic News: Earth's Core, Magnetic Field Changing Fast, Study Says
Rapid changes in the churning movement of Earth's liquid outer core are weakening the magnetic field in some regions of the planet's surface, a new study says.

"What is so surprising is that rapid, almost sudden, changes take place in the Earth's magnetic field," said study co-author Nils Olsen, a geophysicist at the Danish National Space Center in Copenhagen.

The findings suggest similarly quick changes are simultaneously occurring in the liquid metal, 1,900 miles (3,000 kilometers) below the surface, he said.

The swirling flow of molten iron and nickel around Earth's solid center triggers an electrical current, which generates the planet's magnetic field.

Flip-Flop

Fluctuations in the magnetic field have occurred in several far-flung regions of Earth, the researchers found.

In 2003 scientists found pronounced changes in the magnetic field in the Australasian region. In 2004, however, the changes were focused on Southern Africa.

The changes "may suggest the possibility of an upcoming reversal of the geomagnetic field," said study co-author Mioara Mandea, a scientist at the German Research Centre for Geosciences in Potsdam....

Magnetic Field Weakening in Stages, Old Ships' Logs Suggest


Geomagnetic Equator

Location of Geomagnetic Equator is a time function of geomagnetic dipole for the ARCTIC CELL see GMF & Arctic temperature

More GMF and temperature charts can be found here: Graphs and Formulae


Earth's Gravity pictured: news.bbc.co.uk...

Several sources indicate rapid changes in the earth's magnetic field. There also seems to be a correlation with Earth's Length of Day and the Earth's Length of Day seems to correlate with the changes in global temperature. GRAPH


North magnetic pole position shifts

Here’s another interesting correlation. The Position of the north magnetic pole has been shifting rapidly over the last several decades. The rate of change of it’s declination correlates with the variations in Earth’s length of day and the motion of the sun relative to the centre of mass of the solar system...

More interesting information on Earth’s magnetism and it’s relationship with the sun here: www.appinsys.com...

If the changes in Length of Day are related to changes in the circulation of currents of molten material beneath the Earth’s crust, we could speculate that magnetic iron ores are shifting their predominant accumulations and this affects the location of the magnetic north pole.



Guest post by Paul Vaughan, M.Sc. – August 18, 2010 Scientists characterize Earth rotation velocity using a variable they call length of day (LOD). The rate of change of LOD (LOD’) is related to global average wind patterns....

Comment by Malcolm Miller:
I worked on Earth rotation for 15 years at Mounts Stromlo Observatory. Anything that affects the mass distribution near the surface of the planet changes the moment of inertia enough to affect the rotation rate, whether distribution of air, water, wind, tree growth, of the movement of magma under the crust.


GRAPH #1
Graph #2
Graph #3

Abbreviations:
LOD = length of day
SCL = solar cycle length
AMO = Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation (Sea surface Temperature)
GLAAM = global atmospheric angular momentum
NOR = nutation in obliquity residual
[] indicates time-integration
SOI = Southern Oscillation Index


Magnifico surely the skeptics are there or are they hiding,I`m not one another topper



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 07:56 AM
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speaking of the southern waters have any of you heard of operation bloodstone?
Google it, very interesting

www.abovetopsecret.com...

German submarines where? and the rest?\
also connections to lake vostok



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 07:56 AM
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I have talked about this in one of my thread, they are trying to stir up convection currents that causes magnetic field on earth such that south Atlantic anomaly is affected , i believe they have the technology to that. But nobody is interested.

Possibility of man made polar shift ?



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 08:09 AM
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I would like to add the combination of the Solar wind AND our Geomagnetic field AND our Atmosphere is what keeps high energy particles (Cosmic Rays) from bombarding the surface of the earth. NASA: Solar Wind Loses Power, Hits 50-year Low

High energy particles are known to cause mutations. I suggest you read this whole article since it answers many of the questions raised.

Listening for Cosmic Rays !

The Inuvik Neutron Monitor by Jan Houseman and Alan Fehr
Revised and adapted to the Web by John W Bieber

Based upon Report Number 5 of the Scientific Report Series of the Aurora Research Institute.
INTRODUCTION

The Earth is continuously showered with cosmic rays from the Sun and outer space. These are tiny particles that enter the Earth’s atmosphere at nearly the speed of light (the fastest speed possible in the universe). Cosmic rays affect many aspects of our lives, and sometimes these tiny particles can create significant problems....

...On average, sunspot numbers peak every 11 years when the Sun is most active. Plasma and magnetic fields spread out from the Sun and create a barrier which galactic cosmic rays must struggle through. Thus, when the Sun is active, fewer galactic cosmic rays reach Earth....

...The Earth’s magnetic field acts as a protective barrier against cosmic rays. Because they are mostly charged particles, their direction of travel is strongly influenced by magnetic fields. The higher the energy acquired by cosmic ray particles, the less affected they are by magnetic fields....

...Cosmic rays do not get far into the atmosphere before they collide with nitrogen or oxygen molecules in the air. The collision destroys the cosmic ray particle and the air molecule, and then several new particles emerge. Cosmic rays from space are termed "primary," and any particles created in the atmosphere from collisions are termed "secondary." A bit of energy is transferred to each new secondary particle. Secondary cosmic rays spread out and continue to hit other particles and air molecules, creating a cascade of particles showering towards the ground. Figure 2 shows how the particles shower to the ground. The number of secondary cosmic rays in the atmosphere increases to a maximum, and then diminishes as the energy fades closer to the ground. Because of atmospheric absorption, low energy particles are plentiful and high energy particles are rare....

Health risks

Living organisms exposed to very high levels of any radiation are at risk of cellular damage that may cause cancer. Astronauts and pilots who fly at extremely high levels in the atmosphere are most at risk from cosmic rays. If a high energy cosmic ray hit, for example, a reproductive cell, it could alter the genetic material possibly causing mutations. For this reason, aviation organizations who send people to these altitudes are interested in the data acquired by cosmic ray monitors. Genetic mutations are not always harmful, as they may allow organisms to adapt to a changing environment.

COSMIC RAYS IN OUR LIVES



By monitoring cosmic rays we notice increases and decreases of cosmic ray strength at ground level. The changes occur for various reasons, and depending on the intensity, they have various effects on Earth’s environment, our technology, and our lives. The following section describes the different effects of cosmic rays. One must remember that cosmic rays are just one aspect of the complex relationship between Earth and the cosmos. ....



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 08:21 AM
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Originally posted by crimvelvet
reply to post by adept2u
 


I would like to add the combination of the Solar wind AND our Geomagnetic field AND our Atmosphere is what keeps high energy particles (Cosmic Rays) from bombarding the surface of the earth. NASA: Solar Wind Loses Power, Hits 50-year Low

High energy particles are known to cause mutations. I suggest you read this whole article since it answers many of the questions raised.

Listening for Cosmic Rays !

The Inuvik Neutron Monitor by Jan Houseman and Alan Fehr
Revised and adapted to the Web by John W Bieber

Based upon Report Number 5 of the Scientific Report Series of the Aurora Research Institute.
INTRODUCTION

The Earth is continuously showered with cosmic rays from the Sun and outer space. These are tiny particles that enter the Earth’s atmosphere at nearly the speed of light (the fastest speed possible in the universe). Cosmic rays affect many aspects of our lives, and sometimes these tiny particles can create significant problems....

...On average, sunspot numbers peak every 11 years when the Sun is most active. Plasma and magnetic fields spread out from the Sun and create a barrier which galactic cosmic rays must struggle through. Thus, when the Sun is active, fewer galactic cosmic rays reach Earth....

...The Earth’s magnetic field acts as a protective barrier against cosmic rays. Because they are mostly charged particles, their direction of travel is strongly influenced by magnetic fields. The higher the energy acquired by cosmic ray particles, the less affected they are by magnetic fields....

...Cosmic rays do not get far into the atmosphere before they collide with nitrogen or oxygen molecules in the air. The collision destroys the cosmic ray particle and the air molecule, and then several new particles emerge. Cosmic rays from space are termed "primary," and any particles created in the atmosphere from collisions are termed "secondary." A bit of energy is transferred to each new secondary particle. Secondary cosmic rays spread out and continue to hit other particles and air molecules, creating a cascade of particles showering towards the ground. Figure 2 shows how the particles shower to the ground. The number of secondary cosmic rays in the atmosphere increases to a maximum, and then diminishes as the energy fades closer to the ground. Because of atmospheric absorption, low energy particles are plentiful and high energy particles are rare....

Health risks

Living organisms exposed to very high levels of any radiation are at risk of cellular damage that may cause cancer. Astronauts and pilots who fly at extremely high levels in the atmosphere are most at risk from cosmic rays. If a high energy cosmic ray hit, for example, a reproductive cell, it could alter the genetic material possibly causing mutations. For this reason, aviation organizations who send people to these altitudes are interested in the data acquired by cosmic ray monitors. Genetic mutations are not always harmful, as they may allow organisms to adapt to a changing environment.

COSMIC RAYS IN OUR LIVES



By monitoring cosmic rays we notice increases and decreases of cosmic ray strength at ground level. The changes occur for various reasons, and depending on the intensity, they have various effects on Earth’s environment, our technology, and our lives. The following section describes the different effects of cosmic rays. One must remember that cosmic rays are just one aspect of the complex relationship between Earth and the cosmos. ....


exactly what i was postulating on my thread the possibilities are very obvious another marvelous find for this ,earths cracking up man?alot of discenters out htere really avoid the real scientific data,more this guy deserves credit,and the OP
essentially if the solar wind is at a 50 year low then whats causing the effects on saturn and earth.
skymania.com...
spaceweather.com...
www.youtube.com...

To all the contributers on my thread thanks great debate may it continue here,cheer to the OP

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posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 08:27 AM
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The good part is there will be no mindless Android smartphone / iPhone zombies walking around fiddling with their stupid toys.



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 09:22 AM
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Just watched BBc news stating the cause of the brisbane flood is because the pacific conveyer belt has broken down of sorts,I can`t find any evidence on the net,just released on TV.
www.guardian.co.uk...
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also cooler in coast of peru
news.bbc.co.uk...
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Yes its detracted from the magnetosphere but could be connected and very informative for all of who have been wondering why its been so cold.
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posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 10:55 AM
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Erm can i place this here for your attention?
www.thefinancialexpress-bd.com...
DINAJPUR, Jan 11: About 100 houses have developed cracks and at least 600 acres of cropland in five adjoining villages of Barapukuria coal mine area under Parbattipur upazila, northernly district Dinajpur have caved in by 3 to 6 feet during last 3 years because of landslide, according to local inhabitants.

While contacted, the official sources of Barapukuria coal mine company admitted the fact and said, houses of Moupukur, Kalupara and adjacent villages have developed crack, while 600 acres of crop land of Jigagari, Moupukur, Kalupara and other nearby villages have gone down below surface.

Rafiqul islam of Kalupara village said that the landslide happened followed by a kind of violent sound and mild tremor. During the incident the locals panicked hearing violent sounds which caused damage to their village and crop land too. As per statement given by Rafiqul islam, the affected villages as of now are Barapukuria bazar, Kalupara, Balarampur, Gopalpara, Moupukur, Patigram, Patrapara, Jigagari, Bashpukur, Amrapakuar and Baidyanathpar.

Heres an interesting part


During my fact finding tour to affected villages I found that the land of the area have developed cracks stretching 20 to 40 meters and caved in by 3 to 6 feet at the different places.





posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 12:42 PM
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What a fascinating thread, the variables are enumerable and growing with each new piece of information from around the Globe. The Michigan cracks, the atmospheric noises, the weather-related disturbances, the wildlife, it is a large picture to encompass.

I tend to put my thoughts upon the Local "Fluff" bearing down on us, highly magnetized and has changed the shape of our Heliosphere. Will the magnetosphere simply turn off during the instantaneous (for the Galaxy) reversal? What of the Sun? Can the Sun simply "turn off" and has there been speculation of that? Yeah, several references speak of the Sun turning off.

Maybe long ago (my speculation) during the Paleo transition from Mega-fauna to our current nature residents something like this happened. The loss of sunlight but not the loss of the ability to see in the dark caused the larger animals to wander out into the open, where as the smaller species took cover; the moment the Sun sparks back to life any lifeforms on the surface were killed by the blast of radiation. This can explain why only North America was hit so severely yet Africa retained its largest animals well beyond. Had something like that happened over Africa there is hardly any place to hide, wide open expanses of wildlife. I wonder how the buffalo managed to survive; some must of taken to the canyons? There must of been a long period of death out there, the paleo-indians kept to the rocks and kept up with the goat/sheep herds until it was over. Birds are known to withstand a greater degree of radiation than mammals based on the feather's construction, but I would think migration would clean away any heavy losses with renewal. It is possible that we could be seeing our Past right in front of our faces.

As well, people function off of magnetics, our electric bodies and our auric bodies are driven by a natural magnetic cycle of the World. We think in rhythms of electrical impulses; the idea of zombies does not seem unlikely either if we lose our poles within and the body is left disconnected psychically.

I swear I better go get me some blessed candles!



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 12:45 PM
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Originally posted by crimvelvet

Comment by Malcolm Miller:
I worked on Earth rotation for 15 years at Mounts Stromlo Observatory. Anything that affects the mass distribution near the surface of the planet changes the moment of inertia enough to affect the rotation rate, whether distribution of air, water, wind, tree growth, of the movement of magma under the crust.




Let's say humans mined a Trillion Trillion tons of minerals/crude oil/natural gas from deep within the Earth's crust.
We put that weight on the Earth's surface. What happens to the spinning ball?

A: Less weight in the center makes the ball want to slow down
B: Centrifugal force with all that weight on the surface now wants to fling it and move the tectonic plates
C: The Earth wants the weight back down where it was. Our days will get longer as the planet slows down and we will see major volcanic activity to get the weight back to where it was.
D: But if the planet slows down we won't hold the moon where it is, it will drift further away at a faster pace than what we are now seeing until it's flung out of orbit.
E: Without the moon Life Cycle on Earth ends for good.



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 12:53 PM
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It takes 1000 to 5000 years to complete the reversal process. The problem is the weakening of the magnetic field itself which I believe will have some effect to the world weather. The La Nina that happens this time is quite strong compares to the previous ones.



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 12:56 PM
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It seems Africa has some major problems too. There are faultlines in africa that are pulling apart rather rapidly!

www.spiegel.de...



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 02:54 PM
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Please will people try and connect to the ANNS USGS site and see if they can see what I am looking at 75 tremors all over the us inthe last ten minutes on my other thread it seems people cannot connect to it and I don`t know why.
earthquake.usgs.gov...



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which thread?



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