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Gun Grabbing Congress Critters Come Out of Woodwork After Giffords Shooting

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posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 01:15 PM
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I thought I would take the time to post the 2nd Amendment, since clearly your not going to take the time to research it yourself.



A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.


What part of the " right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed ", don't you understand?




posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 01:15 PM
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Originally posted by brokedown
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Our Rights as Americans are not Given to us by the Government they are Given to US BY GOD.
Please re-read the Declaration of Independence, this will clear up that the American Citizen is a Freeman subject only to the Creator, not the Government as many today wish us to be.


lol what?

We are born with natural rights, there is no god to give them to anyone.



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 01:16 PM
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Originally posted by Whereweheaded
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Oh no you didnt?


You actually used a source issued by the Brady campaign as your basis of arguments?


the Brady Campaign exploited the incident to attack the right of Americans to own firearms


You do realize that the Brady campaign were an organization to abolish the 2nd Amendment right? They also preached their liberal propaganda, so your source of " factual " statistics by a factually known Liberal activist group is hardly legitimate.


This is the thing - instead of looking at the problem, people prefer to sling mud and try to paint people in a certain why, like your use of the word "liberal"

See, if you knew ANYTHING at all, you would know that the word Liberal comes from the latin liberalis, meaning "of freedom" and it's central tenet in a political sense is the pursuit of personal freedom (liberty) and equal rights.

Forget that the brain dead right wing have been banging this drum because it threatens them and the staus quo they have so carefully nurtured to keep idiots in their place and earning money for the guys at the top.

The Brady campaign is a legitimate organistion, doing stirling work in bringing the facts about the reality of the impact of no gun control to those who seek the truth, rather than the knee jerk soundbites we hear from organisations like the NRA.

You carry on falling for the propaganda, and the warped view that right wing politics makes you free, when the reality is that it enslaves you.



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 01:17 PM
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Originally posted by budski


. . .

Let's also not forget that the 2nd amendment reads "militia" not "citizen"

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2nd Amendment:

. . . the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 01:17 PM
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Originally posted by Whereweheaded
reply to post by budski
 



I thought I would take the time to post the 2nd Amendment, since clearly your not going to take the time to research it yourself.



A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.


What part of the " right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed ", don't you understand?


What part of "Militia" do you not understand?

It's an outmoded document clung to by faux freedom advocates and has no place in the modern world.



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 01:18 PM
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Originally posted by GeneralAwesome

Originally posted by brokedown
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Our Rights as Americans are not Given to us by the Government they are Given to US BY GOD.
Please re-read the Declaration of Independence, this will clear up that the American Citizen is a Freeman subject only to the Creator, not the Government as many today wish us to be.


lol what?

We are born with natural rights, there is no god to give them to anyone.


Natural rights = God Given

Some people believe in nature, some people believe God is nature.

Tomato Tomahto



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 01:19 PM
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Why not do you some research, which clearly on this thread you have failed to do so, and re-read up on the Brady Campaign, and maybe, not likely, but maybe you will see the group for what they truly are....individuals tht wish to CONTROL and implement the rule over the people, and abolish the rights of the public. Perhaps then, you would see that it is you who has bought into the propaganda. ( not keeping my fingers crossed )



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 01:20 PM
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Did you completely miss my post in which I showed you the codified law?



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 01:20 PM
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I think we should all carry marshmallows and put glitter in our hair,
and we should be responsible for everyones actions not just our own,
and when some one does a bad thing we should ALL be forced to stand in the corner and not have glitter or marshmallows,
if there werent guns, all of the unicorns would still be running free, and we could ride them on weekends.
if all of the good people gave up their guns, then the bad people would see that and stop being bad and then all of the world would be safe.
it would be like magic, a wonderful magic moment of transformation to a completely awesome utopian world,
everything would change it would be bliss.



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 01:21 PM
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Once again, you do realize that the peopleare the milita right?



of "Militia" do you not understand?



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by budski

The Brady campaign is a legitimate organistion, doing stirling work in bringing the facts about the reality of the impact of no gun control to those who seek the truth, rather than the knee jerk soundbites we hear from organisations like the NRA.


You like in the U.K. correct?

No wonder you have zero knowledge on this topic.



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by Highground
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Of course more guns = more gun crime.

Just like more chainsaws = more chainsaw incidents.

Just like more cars = more crimes committed with cars.

I think the point would be to eliminate crime, not just gun crimes. Unless you're saying murders and other violent acts committed with "lesser" weapons are not as vicious, important, or worthy.


At last, a sensible post.

Of course the point is to eliminate or at least drastically reduce crime, but as guns are used in a huge amount of criminal activities would it not make sense to reduce the number of guns?

It's a hell of a lot easier to use a gun to commit an armed robbery than it is to use a bat or a knife, just as it's a hell of a lot easier to murder someone using a gun, or commit suicide for that matter.

Crime reduction has to start somewhere, and initially, gun control is the best first step.



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 01:22 PM
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I would have to take issue with saying natural = god given.

There is no god to give anyone anything.



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 01:23 PM
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Originally posted by Whereweheaded
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Once again, you do realize that the peopleare the milita right?



of "Militia" do you not understand?


No, what I realise is that the 2nd amendment has been subverted by those who have a huge desire to perpetuate gun sales, and the violence that goes hand in hand with such.

Regardless, the FACT is that when you have more guns, you have more gun crime.

The gun was invented as a weapon of war with the only and express intent of killing another human being.
As guns became more accurate, they were used for hunting - but their primary purpose was and is to kill human beings.
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posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 01:23 PM
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The indoctrination shown in this thread is astonishing. Congratulations on becoming the very thing you claim to fight so hard against......

Slaves.



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 01:24 PM
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Crime reduction starts with reducing the number of criminals.

Using your logic....Lets ban people!!!



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 01:24 PM
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Lol at the idea of someone in Australia whose government censors all internet porn calling anyone else slaves.

You shouldnt be so quick to throw stones living in that glass shack.



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 01:25 PM
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Firearms are the tool that gave people freedom by kicking the hell out of the English.

Still a little sad about that?

Dont forget to bend over for your inbred queen



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 01:25 PM
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I respect your right to not believe in God.

However, the Founding Documents of the United States state very clearly We the People are given our Natural Rights by the Creator.

ie. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 01:25 PM
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With your logic, its safe to assume you like the " rule " over your head, and enjoy being told what to do....why are you even here? Your masters didn't give you permission~?


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