Glen Beck Say's 911 Truthers Are Dangerous and Compares them to Loughner

Ive heard beck on the radio many times.. off the cuff. He'd know all about being a loony. Some days I agree with him so much, then he goes nutty and he himself engages in a little schizophreniform thinking, fear mongering and general lunacy.

IMO.. dont throw in 100% with any of these talking heads on any side of that aisle.. theyre all loony in one way or another. Think for yourself.

Im older.. my poor uncle ( bless his heart) is older than me even, VERY newly awakened to things and is swallowing beck speak hook line and sinker. Poor man nearly went berzerk ( and I teased him about buying up all of walmarts cotton underwear) due to a tirade Beck went on about the cotton prices skyrocketing bordering on hysteria..

1. Loughner was a member of ATS
2. ATS has members who are 911 'Truthers'
3. ATS is also the most likely place that will report fairly and fully on the Wikileaks insurance file should the password be released.
4. If you marginalize ATS as a bunch of nutjobs by letting Glenn Beck do his snake oil job, you can use that marginalization against ATS if #3 happens, and #2 suddenly seem a little more on the money.....
5. ATS suddenly has no merit to the MSM by association with #1.

Simple divide and conquer politics. When the insurance files get released and ATS is suddenly telling the world about the nefarious undertakings of whomever the insurance files outs, the MSM simply blows the reports off and character assassinates the ATS members as 'just like Loughner' and sweeps the real news under the rug.

Look how the MSM have treated the whole Wikileaks incident. Rather than focussing on what is being said, they focus on what a terrible person they think Assange is.

I vowed to stay out of Glen Beck threads in 2011. Oh well. Beck's just parroting something he read on some blog or another or heard someone say. That's pretty obvious to most thinking people, Did he also mention the guy smoked pot? Some guy on MSNBC today repeated that little gem about 4 times for no apparent reason...no preamble, no followup, no anything other than hearsay source...let the listener/watcher decide and get inflamed about it...I'm just gonna throw that out there in my irresponsible way and hope no one has the time or energy to call me on it.

Originally posted by ~Lucidity
I vowed to stay out of Glen Beck threads in 2011. Oh well. Beck's just parroting something he read on some blog or another or heard someone say. That's pretty obvious to most thinking people, Did he also mention the guy smoked pot? Some guy on MSNBC today repeated that little gem about 4 times for no apparent reason...no preamble, no followup, no anything other than hearsay source...let the listener/watcher decide and get inflamed about it...I'm just gonna throw that out there in my irresponsible way and hope no one has the time or energy to call me on it.

edit on 1/10/2011 by ~Lucidity because: of typo

Nope.. heard it too! LOL! Yeah, pot heads are so dangerous. Im not a drug taker and never have been, but given my career Ive been in contact with many of them.. and the most they are guilty of besides smoking it is being too relaxed and happy watching DOnnie Darko to mow their lawn or get up off of the couch to go shoot someone.

Smoking it was more than likely the same reason a lot of folks with undiagnosed or untreated mental illness take a whole gamut of drugs.. SELF MEDICATION. In his case, the herb was not enough obviously.

Glen Beck is a genius. He knows his demographic and what they want to hear and he gives it to them. His show is a clever vehicle to sell Gold, Viagra, Depends and diet food. Brilliant marketing.

The people to be wary of are the folks that don't have the capacity of critical thinking and suck up everything he says as gospel.

Glen is a master of NLP.

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Originally posted by whaaa
Glen Beck is a genius. He knows his demographic and what they want to hear and he gives it to them. His show is a clever vehicle to sell Gold, Viagra, Depends and diet food. Brilliant marketing.

Absolutely. He found a niche and is utilizing it to its fullest. Right or wrong he is an entertainer and even professes it as one of his bylines to his shows.

The people to be wary of are the folks that don't have the capacity of critical thinking and suck up everything he says as gospel.

Glen is a master of NLP.

No doubt there and goes the same for all commentators that reside in the spectrum of political theatre. They have found out that there is a sizable chunk of demographics that want it to be infused. Sad really but not my place to judge them.

Originally posted by whaaa
Glen Beck is a genius. He knows his demographic and what they want to hear and he gives it to them. His show is a clever vehicle to sell Gold, Viagra, Depends and diet food. Brilliant marketing.

The people to be wary of are the folks that don't have the capacity of critical thinking and suck up everything he says as gospel.

Glen is a master of NLP.

I see that for many, Beck or Bill O.. Savage even.. are their first contacts with anyone even touching on some things that are not the mainstream bobblehead talk. They KNOW something is "off" in the world and govt here.. and these guys are stepping stone on to more in depth questioning for many IMO. I think that some get stuck with them because they are comfortable with dipping the toe in but not diving in head first. Its a real hard road for some and we cant really fault folks for taking their own time or using their own methods to discover the truth of things. That they are questioning and giving alternate ideas a chance is wonderful really. So many dont or are too scared to. Many are so programmed that they would never even consider listening to Beck or anyone else.. its sad. It will take all " levels" of folks who are questioning things to make a change work.. I just cant begrudge them too much or call them too many names. Not everyone is actually capable of critical thinking and I can honestly respect them for even looking outside of the box in the first place.

For me.. Beck, Jones,Bill... many of these speakers that are bucking the system.. are lunatics when you look under the surface. I spent my time with them and took was was there to take away and moved on when I saw behavior that I did not agree with, fearmongering, or outright lies among other things. I am not a fool nor am I uneducated regardless of how I post LOL! I didnt wake up one day and become an ATS omniscient guru.. in fact, I still disagree with a large portion of the things I read here that are common things that ATSers agree with. I am still in the process of learning and judging for myself what I can accept or prove enough for myself to be comfortable with actually believing and getting behind with support.We all come to enlightenment in different ways and on different levels.

There are posters here I truly admire and really learn from.. and even they can be at fault sometimes. I really admired the research of a guy over on Jones' board.. still follow his work and research... but just cant support crazy ol hysterical fearmongering jones or deal with his followers demanding everyones drink the Jones-Aid from the paper cup in order to participate! We all just have to take what we can get and do the best we can.

i was listening to sirius radio tonight, channel 144 Patriot and the host called Loughner a marxist, a communist, a 9/11 truther. i wish i had been paying more attention to which host said it. in one sentence they say he was a paranoid schizophrenic and it was nothing more than a mentally ill person who lost touch with reality to saying if anything he was a leftist? i dont understand why someone who wants to get to the truth about 9/11 is dangerous?

Well, thing is that everyone believes/knows 911 was an inside job. Whether they publicly admit it or lie about the opposite is another question. Glen Beck was proberbly just stating the obvious like "the sky is blue", "the earth is round", "911 was an inside job" etc.

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You seem to be the only one who doesn't get it.

Your government agencies have been working hand in glove

with all the terrorist organisations for a long time .


..... and your dubyas and cheneys etc etc

are laughing all the way to their secret offshore bank accounts

.... no wonder politicians have been nervous since Pearl Harbour

PLEASE, PLEASE READ THIS

Folks, for whatever reason, something strange has taken place in this thread wether intentionally or not that has me really bothered. I watched this show LIVE. I started this thread between some 15 and 30 minutes into the show while it was broadcasting LIVE. What is being shown in the videos posted in this thread does not represented the order of what took place Live during the show.

I have very good reason to believe the videos posted in this thread have been spliced and or edited and are intentionally misleading.(I wish i could embed videos for the purpose of this single post, but i can provide links, to this thread, of the videos that have been presented)

You will need keep the two windows opened that contain the videos being discussed because of the format i'm presenting it in. If someone could embed these videos that have been posted in this thread into one post, please do, It would make it easier to folllow if all vid's on this thread were in one post.

The first video on page 2 of the thread posted by ATS user ownbestenemy . Start the video and stop it immeaditely as soon as it starts. Please take note of the bottom Red Banner info. Youtube channel is OEyeCut812. Keep this window open and minimized.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

The second video on page 3 of the thread Part 1 of 2 posted ATS user ownbestenemy. Start the video and stop it immeaditely as soon as it starts. Please take note of the bottom Red Banner info. Youtube channel Patriots Network. Keep this video open and minimized.

www.abovetopsecret.com...



You Should Notice A Few Differences.

-The first being the Red Banner info. There is red banner info on the first video posted in this thread by ATS user ownbestenemy. It has a somewhat mysterious white time and date stamp of 4:29:35 PM 1/11/2011 "Tiger".

-There is no ticker information in the Part 1 video, of the 2 videos entitled Part 1 and Part 2 on the 3rd page of this thread, posted again, by ATS user ownbestenemy.

When the first video was posted on page 2, I claimed that this video was only 5 minutes of the show about 20 minutes into the GB program and his ridicious and irresponsible comments that was first said LIVE in the first 15 minutes was left out. Here's my exact post from page 3 of the thread.

PLEASE READ!!!!!

This 5 min clip is from about 20 min's into the show or more. The more irresponsible and ridiculous stuff was said previously in the first 15 minutes of the show prior to the clip posted on page 2. If you will notice in this clip from about 20 minutes into the show he say's.....

I said....I said.... referring to previous comments he made in the show. This was his SECOND comments referring to 911 and Loughner.

We need a video from the very beginning.

Now, as soon ATS user ownbestenemy posted the video he PM'd me with no message, but left a reply in the thread to update my original post with the first video on page 2. Here is post in a reply to me on Page 3 of this thread.

Video is posted. It resides on page 2. Just search that video and edit your OP to include it.

I refused to do this because of what was left out. Now as soon as i requested the first 15 minutes, ATS user ownbestenemy, again, posted a part 1 and part 2 of the Glenn Beck show on page 3 of this thread. These videos have you believe these are the 2 parts of the Glen Beck Show, from beginning to end and they're NOT.

Reason #1- Glenn Beck had almost one of his cry baby moments at the very beginning of the show where he almost shed a tear, but didn't, that is not included in Part 1 of the video. When you start the video, part 1, it starts out "Glenn Beck Program". The full intro prior to "Gelnn Beck Program" has been left out.

Reason #2- He DID NOT intro into the show, 17 seconds into Part 1, with "On a special note: Christian Taylor Green, she was born 9 years ago, 2001". He made this statement AFTER the initial 911 talk and Loughner. This remark was made atleast some 30 minutes into the show.

I am trying to watch NCS football game and anaylze these videos. I have been analyzing these vidoes since they we're posted trying to put things together. There is still a part of the show that is MISSING from the 3 videos in total that have not been posted.

He went on a good 30 second RANT specifically describing Loughner and his beliefs about the Mars land rover and either NASA or the Moon landing, i can't remember which and then made the statement about 911 truther's thinking the George Bush or the Goventment wired the WTC to explode and then made a Direct relationship by saying these people are dangerous. This approximate 30 sec Rant is Missing.

I haven't kept up with this thread past page 3 on don't know what has taken place, but i will try to find a UNEDITED version of the show that took place at 5 PM EST. The show doesn't re-air till 2:00 AM EST and i will make every effort to watch the show again, since i started this thread. If anyone is watching this thread and it's possible for you to record this later tonight and post on the web, please do.

If someone can post a fully unedited version of the show I will more than apologize for statement's or insinuations that i made. What he said really doesn't bother me and is pretty much what i expected from the guy. I have no reason to lie or make up something like this.

The only dangerous people are those with no compassion for human life.

They come from every flavor of politics and every walk of life and culture.

That's why murder is illegal in every nation on earth. Because anyone is capable of it.

reply to post by curious_soul


Hey man if you think I am trying to mislead you are making a pretty wild assumption. You asked those that came to your thread to find the video. Those are what I found.

I care less about Mr. Beck. Not my style nor can I stand a preacher type personality telling me what to think. If there is more, then search for them.

So if that youtube poster spliced them together, not my problem.

Originally posted by ownbestenemy
reply to post by curious_soul

 

Hey man if you think I am trying to mislead you are making a pretty wild assumption. You asked those that came to your thread to find the video. Those are what I found.

I care less about Mr. Beck. Not my style nor can I stand a preacher type personality telling me what to think. If there is more, then search for them.

So if that youtube poster spliced them together, not my problem.

I just wanted to explain why i have stayed logged on and hadn't replied. I just wanted to be as informative as to why i haven't updated my original OP with the videos. I'm staying up to watch this and i will admit i was wrong.

Again, i'm sorry, and i didn't mean to accuse you of anything, this just has me somewhat upset of being accused of misinterpeting, making stuff up, or omitting something to sensationalize what was actually said.

There are clips of today's GB show on Media Matters.

I think this is the one for the OP mediamatters.org...

And there are a few others here...mediamatters.org...

Originally posted by curious_soul
Just now on Fox Glenn Beck outright lied and said Loughner believed 911 was an inside Job.

Sorry but you missed the interview of a neighbor who said he talked about conspiracies and 9/11 being a conspiracy with his sister at the bus stop. That is the source, not Beck. I watched it hours ago. You must have missed it?

Your argument would be with the young man they interviewed. Did he lie when he related what his sister told him? Who knows. When I watched the kid being interviewed I got the impression he was just repeating whatever to get his face on TV. That is probably why it's not getting any play.

Anyway, thought you might want to know that as it destroys your contention and makes your thread title untrue.

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Are you talking about the guy with purple hair? I did see some of it, but didn't catch that part. I have already admitted i was wrong about that when it was frist mentioned by vipertech earlier in the thread. This was reported in the AP also.

Originally posted by Blaine91555

Originally posted by curious_soul
Just now on Fox Glenn Beck outright lied and said Loughner believed 911 was an inside Job.

Sorry but you missed the interview of a neighbor who said he talked about conspiracies and 9/11 being a conspiracy with his sister at the bus stop. That is the source, not Beck. I watched it hours ago. You must have missed it?

Your argument would be with the young man they interviewed. Did he lie when he related what his sister told him? Who knows. When I watched the kid being interviewed I got the impression he was just repeating whatever to get his face on TV. That is probably why it's not getting any play.

Anyway, thought you might want to know that as it destroys your contention and makes your thread title untrue.

Ok. i guess i deserve that, but i claimming what GB actually said, and the order he said it in hasn't been representive of the videos posted in this thread.