Gov. Sarah Palin is owed an Apology :Professor Bradly Smith, page 8

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reply posted on 12-1-2011 @ 03:48 PM by maybereal11

This just in from Palin..

"Especially within hours of a tragedy unfolding, journalists and pundits should not manufacture a blood libel that serves only to incite the very hatred and violence they purport to condemn. That is reprehensible," said Palin.

"There are those who claim that political rhetoric is to blame for the despicable act of this deranged, apparently apolitical criminal. And they claim political debate has somehow got more heated just recently. But when was it less heated? Back in those calm days when political figures literally settled their difference with duelling pistols?"

If you are unfamiliar with the term Blood Libel...ask a jewish friend.

historically, it refers to the false accusation that Jews killed Christian children to use their blood in religious rituals. Giffords, who remains in critical condition after being shot in the head, is the first Jewish congresswoman from Arizona.

Personally I think she was apppealing to the crowd that screams "The jews control the media"

Either way...Will she just go away please?

reply posted on 12-1-2011 @ 10:16 PM by Sinnthia

Originally posted by Libertygal
Does this meet your perception of "vile enough"?

In a a rather myopic way, yes, yes it is. Is it as powerful? No. Did it carry the same weight? No. Sure, just as if not more vile. Let me see if I understand what we are comparing here.

Sharon Angle made her comment to a national audience not once but twice. She was asked to clarify and in a rambling, stumbling, round about way, she just restated it.

The man you bring up that no one outside his district ever heard of said it once and then retracted and apologized.

See the difference?

Angle's rhetoric was sent out to the same audience that was being reached by Palin and Beck. Palin has more twitter followers than there are people who know who your guy is. What is it about national audience and echo chamber people are not getting?

Do I condemn the words themselves as just as vile? You betcha. He apologized to the few people that read it. Angle reinforced her comment. See the difference?

reply posted on 12-1-2011 @ 10:23 PM by Sinnthia

Originally posted by FlyersFan
Geee ... now how hard would it be for the far right to twist these things around and claim that violence in America is Obama's fault? Not very hard. That's exactly what the far left, with it's PDS, did. It jumped on Palin and blamed her for the Arizona murders when it is clearly not her fault. Sure, her words are irresponsible .. so are Obamas ... so are those on the left who I posted the link to ... so are many others.

I really love the fact that the best you can do is some out of context quotes, some complete distortions, and still the only gun reference you can find is in the context of being met with knives.

Do you even read these cut and pastes?

Wanna' answer my question .. if you are allegedly so concerned and have been for so long .. then why aren't you concerned about the same violent crap spewing from Obama and the left? The crap is flowing at equal rates from both sides, and yet only Palin and Beck seem to be the ones you all are 'concerned' about.

Because it is quite simply not even remotely comparable. You have Beck and Palin and Angle talking about guns, revolution, guns, spilling blood, guns, taking our contry back, guns, democrats as foreign socialist usurpers, guns, 2nd amendment remedies, blood of tyrants and patriots, guns, dont retreat - reload, guns, baby killers, amoral, perverts, sodomites, guns, abortion lovers, guns, etc... That is completely ignoring the Medveds and Wieners out there that add 3 hours a day to it. If you ever have anything that even remotely compares, that might be interesting.

Maybe next you can post the same old pictures of random people know one knows and compare them to national figures as well. Some strange guy with a poster about killing Bush compared to Palin with a reality show, a job at Fox, and former VP candidate is getting funnier each time as well.

reply posted on 13-1-2011 @ 01:42 AM by saltheart foamfollower

reply to post by Sinnthia

NOTHING COMPARABLE HUH!

Rep. Paul Kanjorski, D-Pa.

"That Scott down there that's running for governor of Florida," Mr. Kanjorski said. "Instead of running for governor of Florida, they ought to have him and shoot him. Put him against the wall and shoot him.

"He stole billions of dollars from the United States government and he's running for governor of Florida. He's a millionaire and a billionaire. He's no hero. He's a damn crook. It's just we don't prosecute big crooks."

Years after the assassination of President George W. Bush in Chicago, an investigative documentary examines that as-yet-unsolved crime.

You peeps are so.......................TRANSPARENT

reply posted on 13-1-2011 @ 01:50 AM by Sinnthia

Originally posted by saltheart foamfollower
reply to post by Sinnthia

NOTHING COMPARABLE HUH!

Rep. Paul Kanjorski, D-Pa.

"That Scott down there that's running for governor of Florida," Mr. Kanjorski said. "Instead of running for governor of Florida, they ought to have him and shoot him. Put him against the wall and shoot him.

"He stole billions of dollars from the United States government and he's running for governor of Florida. He's a millionaire and a billionaire. He's no hero. He's a damn crook. It's just we don't prosecute big crooks."

Yawn. Been there, done that already. I have already covered this one man almost no one has ever heard of who wrote a vile op-ed and then APOLOGIZED FOR IT. That is right. This man who has fewer constituents than Palin has twitter followers said something horrible and then apologized. What did Palin do when she said something horrible? REPEAT IT. REINFORCE IT. She spent today crying about what a victim she is of her own words.

There is a reason we all know what Palin says and you had to have someone point this guy out to you and then go look it up to post it here instead of just saying "remember what Kanjorski said."

Sad sad sad.

Years after the assassination of President George W. Bush in Chicago, an investigative documentary examines that as-yet-unsolved crime.

You peeps are so.......................TRANSPARENT

Um...what?
When was Bush assasinated?

reply posted on 13-1-2011 @ 01:52 AM by saltheart foamfollower

reply to post by Sinnthia

Whatever, you will go on IGNORE.

HEY, what happened to IGNORE?

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reply posted on 13-1-2011 @ 01:54 AM by Sinnthia

Originally posted by saltheart foamfollower
reply to post by Sinnthia

Whatever, you will go on IGNORE.

HEY, what happened to IGNORE?
edit on 13-1-2011 by saltheart foamfollower because: (no reason given)

I am still waiting for you to prove that I was lying about a congresswoman being shot in the face Saturday. Maybe you should drink and post less since this does not really seem to be working in your favor.

reply posted on 13-1-2011 @ 01:58 AM by saltheart foamfollower

reply to post by Sinnthia

No, you insinuated that it had something to do with people other than the FREAK that liked to read Mein Kamf and the Communist Maifesto. Though I imbibe, I do have shame, which some do not seem to.

There is a type of person that does not have shame, maybe you should look into that.

reply posted on 13-1-2011 @ 02:01 AM by Sinnthia

Originally posted by saltheart foamfollower
reply to post by Sinnthia

No, you insinuated that it had something to do with people other than the FREAK that liked to read Mein Kamf and the Communist Maifesto.

Nope, that would be perhaps double vision or just poor reading comprehension. There seems to be a small team of you bent on accusing me of saying things none of you can ever produce any quotes to use as evidence. Why is that?

Though I imbibe, I do have shame, which some do not seem to.

Is that your apology?

There is a type of person that does not have shame, maybe you should look into that.

I have and I see it as a person that runs around calling people liars and then running away scared when asked to backup their nonsense.

Would you like to get on topic or just want to trade personal tit for tats? So far, you have called me a liar and fell over yourself proving yourself wrong. Now this. Anything actually contribute? I can just ignore you.

reply posted on 13-1-2011 @ 02:12 AM by Sinnthia

reply to post by saltheart foamfollower

Let me say this AGAIN, here for you. You and your boys can go on a little scavenger hunt or apologize or just be liars. Up to you. The only person I have ever blamed for the shooting on Saturday is the shooter. I never blamed Sarah Palin, Sharon Angle, Beck, Bachman, Weiner, nobody bud Jared. Now you can either produce one quote saying otherwise or STOP LYING.

reply posted on 13-1-2011 @ 02:20 AM by saltheart foamfollower

reply to post by Sinnthia

Now is the time to own it. Man up. Take some responsibility. If these people did not think their words had any impact, they would not make an effort to speak to the public at all. There is my apology.

Now shut

reply posted on 13-1-2011 @ 02:23 AM by Sinnthia

Originally posted by saltheart foamfollower
reply to post by Sinnthia

Now is the time to own it. Man up. Take some responsibility. If these people did not think their words had any impact, they would not make an effort to speak to the public at all. There is my apology.

Now shut

Out of context much?

Still does not prove your point. I still am not saying anyone is responsible for the shooting but the shooter. I did not even say he might have been influenced by these people. I can condemn Jared for shooting someone and I can condemn Sharon Angle for suggesting 2nd amendment remedies. Only a very limited intelligence would make a link that is not there in order to support a very weak lie.

You really let me down here.

reply posted on 13-1-2011 @ 08:50 AM by saltheart foamfollower

reply to post by Sinnthia

Well you certainly haven't, what was your previous incarnation?

By the way, the difference between libel and how the media and you put across a point.

If you directly tell a lie in the media you can be charged with libel. If you put the two points so close together that the watcher or reader assume the two to blend into one, that is not libel.

Let me demonstrate, you and the media are what many believe to be liars. See how that is done? I did not directly say you are a liar, I said many believe you to be a liar.

Let me give you another example. Some would say that your actions and the actions of the media are vile and heinous.

By the way, that was NOT out of context. It was your first comment in the thread and if anyone wants to look at it they can.

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reply posted on 13-1-2011 @ 08:55 AM by Sinnthia

Originally posted by saltheart foamfollower
reply to post by Sinnthia

Well you certainly haven't, what was your previous incarnation?

Haven't what? I think I was a rabbit?

By the way, the difference between libel and how the media and you put across a point.

is........?

If you directly tell a lie in the media you can be charged with libel. If you put the two points so close together that the watcher or reader assume the two to blend into one, that is not libel.

Let me demonstrate, you and the media are what many believe to be liars. See how that is done? I did not directly say you are a liar, I said many believe you to be a liar.

Let me give you another example. Some would say that your actions and the actions of the media are vile and heinous.

By the way, that was NOT out of context. It was your first comment in the thread and if anyone wants to look at it they can.
edit on 13-1-2011 by saltheart foamfollower because: (no reason given)

OK well it seems you are upset with me personally but you are not making your point at all. I am not sure that is what ATS is for is it? Are you accusing me of libel? Yes, it is out of context. I understand anyone can go and look at it in context but you present it as if that little snippet itself proves anything. I am sorry you do not like me.