Gov. Sarah Palin is owed an Apology :Professor Bradly Smith

Politico

Professor Bradley Smith has summarized it perfectly.

Palin is owed an apology, as are Glenn Beck, Sharon Angle, the Tea Party members and everyone else
that some people have attempted, with no evidence at all, to blame for this mass murder. And at the
top of the list of those owed apologies are the families and friends of the deceased and wounded, who
have seen their sorrows trivialized and politicized by this rush to blame political opponents for this
tragedy.

I am sorry that the general world populations intellect is lower than your's mrs Palin. I know thats sad right? You are actually smarter than most of them.. We are screwed.

If you don't mind, I think this will add to the point that this sheriff choose to politicize this tragedy,

Knowing that Jared was dangerous and had made threats to others in the community.

Exclusive: Loughner Friend Explains Alleged Gunman's Grudge Against Giffords

That was it. But later in the day, when Tierney first heard about the Tucson massacre, he had a sickening feeling: "They hadn't released the name, but I said, 'Holy #, I think it's Jared that did it.'" Tierney tells Mother Jones in an exclusive interview that Loughner held a years-long grudge against Giffords and had repeatedly derided her as a "fake." Loughner's animus toward Giffords intensified after he attended one of her campaign events and she did not, in his view, sufficiently answer a question he had posed, Tierney says. He also describes Loughner as being obsessed with "lucid dreaming"—that is, the idea that conscious dreams are an alternative reality that a person can inhabit and control—and says Loughner became "more interested in this world than our reality." Tierney adds, "I saw his dream journal once. That's the golden piece of evidence. You want to know what goes on in Jared Loughner's mind, there's a dream journal that will tell you everything."

motherjones.com...

Tierney, who's also 22, recalls Loughner complaining about a Giffords event he attended during that period. He's unsure whether it was the same one mentioned in the charges—Loughner "might have gone to some other rallies," he says—but Tierney notes it was a significant moment for Loughner: "He told me that she opened up the floor for questions and he asked a question. The question was, 'What is government if words have no meaning?'"
"He said, 'Can you believe it, they wouldn't answer my question.' Ever since that, he thought she was fake, he had something against her."

Giffords' answer, whatever it was, didn't satisfy Loughner. "He said, 'Can you believe it, they wouldn't answer my question,' and I told him, 'Dude, no one's going to answer that,'" Tierney recalls. "Ever since that, he thought she was fake, he had something against her."

Tierney says he has "no clue" why Loughner might have "shot all those other people." But, he notes, "when I heard Gabrielle Giffords has been shot, I was like 'Oh my God...' For some reason I felt like I knew...I felt like if anyone was going to shoot her, it would be Jared."

A question she couldn't answer,

They knew this guy was dangerous yet the sheriff spun this incident anyway

Maybe she (I can't comment on the rest as I haven't followed) is owed an apology by SOME people but certainly not by everyone who stated a belief that her cross-hairs and target list were in abominable taste and irresponsible. Is she really that surprised that people saw links here? A blanket apology or statement like this is in no way going to negate this and isn't going to do squat to dig her out of the hole she's so ably and capably, with forethought, dug herself into.

The sad part is that all the facts have not surfaced yet. This deranged young man could have ties to leftist organizations or ties to conservative organizations or no ties to either. Do you think that thoes who are blaming Palin,Beck and the like would blame leftist speakers ,should it be found that he was a leftist?
The fact is that regardless of the talk this was one twisted soul.

reply to post by ~Lucidity


Just wait and see. This rush to blame political opponents is going to backfire on them.

That sheriff down there got the ball rolling with his "opinion" but it's going nowhere.

Gov. Sarah Palin ?
There is just Sarah palin she is not a governor.

Originally posted by daddyroo45
The sad part is that all the facts have not surfaced yet. This deranged young man could have ties to leftist organizations or ties to conservative organizations or no ties to either. Do you think that thoes who are blaming Palin,Beck and the like would blame leftist speakers ,should it be found that he was a leftist?
The fact is that regardless of the talk this was one twisted soul.

Enough of the facts have surfaced to conclude that the murderer was just plain crazy and had no connection to any political speech at all. That won't stop the insane people in the Obama administration, the DNC, the Soros media, nor the corporate media from trying to pin the murder on the "unsafe" Bill of Rights in the constitution.

Originally posted by Char-Lee
Gov. Sarah Palin ?
There is just Sarah palin she is not a governor.

Once you have been governor, you have the ability to retain that title forever. Kind of like calling Clinton, Bush(s), Carter with the title "president" even after their term of service.

Just 2 cents

Poor Bradley Smith will be transformed into a dangerous hater racist who can not be permitted his teaching job shortly. He should have nodded his head with the chorus of the lefties on a political and legal witch hunt and shut up if he wanted to keep his job.

Originally posted by sara123123
Poor Bradley Smith will be transformed into a dangerous hater racist who can not be permitted his teaching job shortly. He should have nodded his head with the chorus of the lefties on a political and legal witch hunt and shut up if he wanted to keep his job.

Tenure is a sonofagun.
Poor guy.

Whats funny, is how these allegations that he was a " right wing extremist " were allover the MSM, but now it's come to light that he was a registered Dummycrat!

Democrats and liberal talking heads have taken Rahm Emanuel’s maxim to heart – never let good crisis go to waste – and are attempting to portray Jared Lee Loughner as a rightwinger who shot Giffords because she is a Democrat and Obamacare supporter. In fact, the truth is the exact opposite.

Classmates describe Loughner as a “leftwing pothead” who was a disruptive presence in class.

He listed Hitler’s Mein Kampf and Marx’s Communist Manifesto as his favorite books.

But it was not simply leftist radicalism and worship of diehard socialists like Marx and Hitler that motivated Loughner. It turns out he was also into the occult.

And what's funny, the libs will try anything to spin this!

Regardless of all this, the liberal corporate media insists on portraying Loughner as a conservative.

In this quote, it's just sad to see how a traumatic experience will be used for political gain.

In addition to trashing the Second Amendment, liberals and Democrats are calling for rolling back the First Amendment in response to the shooting.

Just seems like there is no hope to the chaos?

Irrational people make irrational accusations. That should tell you something about the media and people among us who pull this crap. The kid was in the company of a 50 yr old man who supported him, he was a dem adn left leaner, he was a pothead by all reports, he was also obviously mentally ill if not a diagnosed schizophrenic. By this twisted thinking.. we can blame and place on watch lists ALL 20-something, left leaning dem potheads that have any indication of mental illness.

How about the PERSON THEMSELF IS TO BLAME FOR THEIR OWN ACTIONS?? crazy concept, I know..

reply to post by Eurisko2012


True, If anyone is to blame it is the Sherrif for not doing his job.

The first instance this toolbag threated someone the should have went to his house and revoked his liscense to carry. If not confiscate his weapon for threating to comit a felony.

Originally posted by sara123123

Originally posted by daddyroo45
The sad part is that all the facts have not surfaced yet. This deranged young man could have ties to leftist organizations or ties to conservative organizations or no ties to either. Do you think that thoes who are blaming Palin,Beck and the like would blame leftist speakers ,should it be found that he was a leftist?
The fact is that regardless of the talk this was one twisted soul.

Enough of the facts have surfaced to conclude that the murderer was just plain crazy and had no connection to any political speech at all. That won't stop the insane people in the Obama administration, the DNC, the Soros media, nor the corporate media from trying to pin the murder on the "unsafe" Bill of Rights in the constitution.

I have to disagree that 'enough of the facts have surfaced to conclude that the murderer was justplain crazy and had no connection to any political speech at all.'

Yes, he was unbalanced. Also, yes, it seems he did have a real grudge against Sen. Griffin - and who knows whether he had also seen Palin's website. It cannot be ruled out that it may have been an influence, a tipping point, for someone already dangerously 'on the edge'.

In any case, the incident highlights an issue Sen. Griffin had already reaised - about the violent rhetoric. Ironically, she made a statement about it just days before she was shot. This violent rhetoric has no place in a civilised society, and especially no place amongst government representatives. It's not only reprehensible, it is irresponsible and dangerous, and Palin seems to be one of the worst offenders. Imo, no-one owes her an apology, and she owes a big one, several in fact, for exemplifying the kind of rhetoric which is characteristic of the mafia, not the government. Her bad taste, her ignorance and her arrogance are a very dangerous combination. Support this woman at your peril. You think Obama is bad? You ain't seen nothin' yet if she gets any more power than she already has.

The fact that she has any status at all within this government is just one more illustration of how far they have sunk and what they really are about.

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You got it... none of this makes sense. Its all being tossed into the spin machine. I posted these on another thread.. read and weep.
www.foxnews.com...
thehill.com...

Just the start...

reply to post by Advantage


I agree, I think the very suggestion of any MSM group trying to spin this horrible act as a political based scenario is ludicrous. IMO, I think he knew exactly what he was doing! Though reports are coming out stating he was " insane " or anything of the like, just seems like a cop-out. But thats just me?

Originally posted by Whereweheaded
reply to post by Advantage

 

I agree, I think the very suggestion of any MSM group trying to spin this horrible act as a political based scenario is ludicrous. IMO, I think he knew exactly what he was doing! Though reports are coming out stating he was " insane " or anything of the like, just seems like a cop-out. But thats just me?

Youre right.

I worked in an ER as an RN for 10 years in a large inner city hospital. Ive had plenty of contact with schizophrenics and the mentally ill. They are not without reasons for what they do.. they have very very solid reasons. Sometimes they make sense only to the person themselves, but they are not out of their minds running through the street with no reason for what they choose to do. Im not an expert... but I have solid practical experience with the worst of the worst... and saw it myself.

Ive read this kids stuff.. he has very obvious fixations and schizophreniform thinking.. Certainly doesnt mean he was out of his mind or without reason for his actions. He had very solid reasons according to his own beliefs and thoughts. He also knew these actions were wrong... so he knew and knows the difference. It was a choice regardless of age, association, mental illness, or political affiliation.

this shooting is really shaping up to be a great tool for reinforcing the left vs right paradigm isn't it. The hysteria is already building and plenty of people responding just like sheep...

The whole cross hairs things is a joke. In many parts it is common speech, I got him/here in the cross hairs, I have him/her in my sights, attach what ever reason to the end of the sentence you like it is simply a figure of speech like many others. It just means you are focused on a specific person for what ever reason.

This is no better then trying to blame Ozzy Osborne for someone's suicide because he wrote a song called suicide solution (which actually speaks against suicide).

This guy was a nut job pure and simple, his political leanings are irrelevant!

reply to post by wcitizen


Issuing threats against politicans or anyone is against the law. Have Palin arrested for threatening to kill the Congress woman or appologize for the slander and stop your crazy political smears. But know that your dear reader has some threatening words that are much more direct in calling for political violence than you have on Sarah Palin:

Obama may be the worst offender.

** Obama: “They Bring a Knife…We Bring a Gun”
** Obama to His Followers: “Get in Their Faces!”
** Obama on ACORN Mobs: “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!”
** Obama to His Mercenary Army: “Hit Back Twice As Hard”
** Obama on the private sector: “We talk to these folks… so I know whose ass to kick.“
** Obama to voters: Republican victory would mean “hand to hand combat”
** Obama to lib supporters: “It’s time to Fight for it.”
** Obama to Latino supporters: “Punish your enemies.”
** Obama to democrats: “I’m itching for a fight.”
gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com...

Always remember that what fascism goes around always comes around so I would not advocate for it if I were you.