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Ashley Turton, Congressional Affairs Director, Found Dead In Burning Car: Politico

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posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 02:26 PM
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Look at the first photo in the slideshow she took out the column that supports the beam that fell. Note the sagging brickwork above the opening. Also note the driveway, this explains the position of the vehicle including the maxima as it was only a one car garage.




posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 02:35 PM
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[whistle blowers submitting gov secrets to
a CIA controlled wikileaks will get you
suicided.

Assassinating people and making
it look like an accident is typical
CIA Protocol and Method of Operation.

The CIA would never stage an accident as stupidly obvious as this one. There would be no doubt that it was an accidental death, and no questions to ask. No evidence of anything even remotely suspicious.

No I don't think there is any CIA involvement in this, and if it was murder it appears to be very unprofessional.

More likely a domestic abuse situation and pathetically attempted cover-up, robbery gone wrong, or perhaps a third party of a love triangle seeking revenge, personal grudge or something along these lines.

Too sloppily done to be a professional assassination.

In my opinion.



Yeah I agree, unless it was done in a sloppy fashion on purpose to send a message to others; could be written off as a wierd accident by investigators but obvious enough to send a message.
I heard of a study where occupations were ranked in terms of degree of corruption and utilities were at the top, in comparison politics was #5 or something like that.



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 02:39 PM
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This came out of a link supplied by the op:

Huffington Post:
According to the Washington Post, "a preliminary investigation indicated that the car crashed into the garage of a home in the 800 block of A Street SE."

So she wasn't backing out of the garage, but there's still something strange about the whole thing.



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 02:42 PM
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Ok, my mistake. I just read the Washington Post article and it says she was either pulling in or backing out. Boy is my face red!



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 03:02 PM
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Sad story, but nothing in it seems "right". Husband doesnt hear anything, let alone a freaking fire blazing next to his house? What jumps out at me was the video and pics. The photo with the car still in garage - notice the freaking leather seats arent even charred! Truck looks fine except some smoke damage, but it doesnt look like the smoke even got inside (no smoke or charred residue on glass!) I had a 1998 BMW and know for a fact it had filters in ventilation system, and GREAT door seals! I think if she was in that BMW EVEN when shown fully engulfed in smoke, the smoke wouldnt have gotten in if the windows were up and doors closed (as evident in the imaculate interior and windows in pics!) 2 minute response time means wasnt in it long! Weird angle? No, not if backing out and AROUND the other car. I have a work van that had electrical short - drove it with smoke filling entire interior, and it NEVER caught flames despite a handful of melted wires) so I think electrical short is out! The video seems like something in front of the BMW is on fire, and MAYBE not even the truck itself judging by the position of the flames coming through garage roof, yet the contents on back wall of garage are intact in after pics.... Seems like it "looked" worst than it was (LOTS of smoke and some flames) a slow speed crash? maybe not even any crash? I think something happened and she was dead, then something around car set on fire to hide evidence? Maybe someone entered as the door went up and she was backing out and knocked her out or maybe poisoned her or something, then set the fire?



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 03:55 PM
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I'm not a mechanic, but my husband was. He told me that it is very difficult for a car to burst into flames the way they described. Especially on a new vehicle.

My question is how did she die? Yes, her car caught fire on a low speed impact with a garage door (smells fishy to me) but how did she die? results of smoke inhalation, burns, or something else?



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 04:31 PM
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While I am not making a determination one way or the other, I am only stating the facts as I see them.
1. The 2008 BMW X5 Rated 5 stars for Driver safety, and 4 stars for Passenger safety. (autos.msn.com...)
2. The Gas tank didn't get touched by the flames so the car itself didn't explode, which means the fire was in the garage itself. Which leaves an escape route available.
3. While the beam fell on the car as one member already mentioned, it hit the car on the passenger side of the car without much structural damage to the car itself, so there is no way it would have impeded the driver from getting out on the drivers side.So if she were conscious she would have at least attempted to escape.
4. The article said she was leaving her home so why did she crash INTO her garage?
5. For a death to have occurred at such a low speed crash would be highly Improbable, even unconsciousness would have been unlikely. The only other factor I can think of would be the air bag, of which there is no mention of, so what would have caused her not to exit the vehicle after the incident?
So why did she die? It is definitely suspicious that she would have died in such an incident, there will have to be more information for a definative answer.



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 04:39 PM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint

Originally posted by OneLife
Hmm.. Lotta Government officials are being attempted/killed off these days.. Coincidence? Perhaps. A sign that something's up and people are wanting to tell the 'public' only to get killed in the process? Probably.

whistle blowers submitting gov secrets to
a CIA controlled wikileaks will get you
suicided.

Assassinating people and making
it look like an accident is typical
CIA Protocol and Method of Operation.

thanks for the heads up

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Jesus, I'm sorry, but I really just love the fact that every time I see you say something about wikileaks, you say it is a CIA front, and I look back and remeber you went from wiki supprter to wiki debunker overnight. I just love it.

Anyways, I think that something's afoot here. They are planning more on the 2012 presidential election than anything happening in 2011. I know it is happening aboiut 700 days, but still, all these political related deaths, and all these seemingly-coordinated murders don't look right in my book. I would commit myself to doing so much research, but I can't even find my laptop charger, and I have to use the Desktop comp, using up power I don't need to. I just wish I knew in advance if there is something wrong or not. It would save people alot of time.



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 04:46 PM
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I read all of the thread before posting this so I don't remember where the original comment was made. However, someone made mention of Judge Roll (sp) who was killed in AZ.

I did not see anyone else posting this so here goes. On a local morning radio show it was mentioned that the Judge had just made a major ruling against the administration the week before the shooting.

Perhaps he was the actual target. I'm not as good at research as you guys so perhaps one of you would be interested in seeing if there are any links between the judge and the latest victim.



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 04:54 PM
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Husband worked for the GOV also. Was the car his primary vehicle or hers? If it was an assassination maybe they missed their target.



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 05:04 PM
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Damn you guys are worse than the alien and ufo forum. There doesn't have to be a conspiracy here. The woman could easily have had a known or unknown medical condition, like one of the articles mentioned. People get aneurysms, people have seizures, etc.. And there are plenty of things in a garage that might cause a spark to fire from a low speed crash. She may have fell unconscious or into a seizure for whatever reason while the vehicle started moving and ran into something that may have caused a small fire that eventually grew.
I see people here making accusations that maybe her husband is responsible. How would you feel if you found out people were saying things about you murdering the wife that you loved? Go buy a heart and wait until there are some answers before spouting some ridiculous conspiracies. No wonder this site is developing an unwanted reputation.



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 05:12 PM
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If it wasn't posted here's a snippet on how hard it is to get a car to explode or catch fire.



After crashing down a cliff, any car will always end up on fire. BUSTED To begin, Jamie and Adam brought a car to the top of a quarry. The car accidentally rolled off the cliff before the accelerator was pushed down with a weight. The car tumbled only part of the way down the quarry walls and did not explode. The MythBusters next brought in a fresh car and designed an improved launching method. The second car sped of the cliff and crashed much more impressively but still did not explode. Investigation of the wreckage showed that the gas tank was in a very well-protected position and barely damaged. At this point, the myth was busted. To find out if an exposed gas tank will even explode under impact, Jamie and Adam used a large, falling weight to crush a gas tank and added boxes of matches to simulate sparks. The high speed footage showed a wide spray of gasoline mist that quickly ignited into a large fireball. To attempt to recreate an explosion with an actual falling car, Jamie and Adam attached a gas tank externally to the front of a car and covered it with boxes of strike-anywhere matches. Upon crashing, the fuel tank did explode, but the result was less than hoped for because Jamie forgot to release the parking brake during launch. Finally, to duplicate the car explosions seen in action movies, Adam and Jamie successfully used a ramp, plastic jugs of gasoline, detonation cord, and a wireless trigger.

Source
It does seem very odd........and more than likely big oil (TPTB or as like to call them USELESS Collectors of Worthless Wealth).
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posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 05:16 PM
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A seizure would explain the five points I made earlier, and it is a very definite possibility, though I am not ready to commit to it as a definitive answer yet. It is the most reasonable natural cause I have seen yet. But everyone loves a conspiracy... And I agree with you, it is in very bad taste that anyone should blame the husband so early in the tragedy without the first sign of anything resembling proof. Have a little sympathy for the family.



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 10:41 AM
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Originally posted by eeyipes
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My guess .... She sits in the vehicle, snaps her seatbelt. Turns key in ignition, car catches fire. She tries to get out of vehicle but finds seatbelt is either locked, or in her panic she cannot get it undone for some reason. She tries to back out of the garage in order to prevent the house from catching fire, and also to hopefully attract attention to her situation out on the street and get help. In her panic, she instead puts the car in drive and hits the back of the garage. By now the flames and smoke have consumed her.

The question is, was this sequence of events purposeful or a weird accident?
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We would have to have had a fire and a seat belt lock failure at the same time.


On her being overcome by fire or smoke. Years ago I had a fire going in a trash can and tossed in a auto wire harness form and old car. The thing smoked a great deal. The wind shifted hard and I got one good gulp of the smoke from burning plastic and it put me right down on the ground fighting for air. Couldnt move much at all. Had to fight to keep from passing out while choking and slobering all over the place. My chest hurt for a week.

If there was a reason her car cought fire it wouldnt take but a good inhale or two of that plastic smoke to put her out.
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posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by WhiteDevil013

Originally posted by Fractured.Facade

Originally posted by boondock-saint
whistle blowers submitting gov secrets to
a CIA controlled wikileaks will get you
suicided.

Assassinating people and making
it look like an accident is typical
CIA Protocol and Method of Operation.


The CIA would never stage an accident as stupidly obvious as this one. There would be no doubt that it was an accidental death, and no questions to ask. No evidence of anything even remotely suspicious.

No I don't think there is any CIA involvement in this, and if it was murder it appears to be very unprofessional.

Too sloppily done to be a professional assassination.

In my opinion.



Hmmmmm....and you're saying this because you know the difference?

Wouldnt you have to be a professional to know the difference between the work of a professional and just some psycho? I mean we're not talking about carpentry here, Im just curious what makes you feel you know enough to pass judgement.

Are you or were you a professional hitman?


Part of his point was that if a hit man were in the garage or in the SUV and whatever the means the hit man (or woman) would have wanted to start the fire and move out without being seen. When Mrs Turton crashed into the door well thats not the kind of attention a pro wants. Someone could see him leaving the area after the large crash ect becouse they would have been looking at that point.

Sounds to me if it were a hit the failure took place after she got into the SUV. So the hit guy would have had to been in the back seat and he wasnt able to suprise her or he was hiden in the garage and made a move after she was in the SUV but this gave her time to put the SUV in gear. As well he could have been the one that messed up by putting the thing in gear for some reason and lost control.

At any rate we would need to look at the AR and see if she had neck injuries and smoke in her lungs.



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 10:57 AM
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Originally posted by spacemanjupiter
I see people here making accusations that maybe her husband is responsible. How would you feel if you found out people were saying things about you murdering the wife that you loved? Go buy a heart and wait until there are some answers before spouting some ridiculous conspiracies. No wonder this site is developing an unwanted reputation.


Well dont think the cops are not looking into that.



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 12:03 PM
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Well seems like this thread is dying out a little, but this story really interests me due to the weird circumstances. I was reading a article today (I think it was article in politico?)... Heres quote...

“The leading theory is accidental, [that] the car crashed through the garage doors and…was found on fire in the garage area,” Piringer said, adding that the incident is under joint investigation by the fire and police departments. “There were some unusual circumstances – just the way the car was, low-speed, significant fire, things like that….For the most part, the fire was confined to the area of origin.”



Read more: www.politico.com...

So Wait a min... She "CRASHED" through garage door? That was the beam on car in pic.... No damage to rear of car from collision, so she drove INTO her own garage door! This rules out anything about someone else being in garage.... What the F Happened???? And NOBODY heard a car CRASH through a garage door at 5am or so!!! Even if she did... No way the car set garage on fire! And fire was contained to "area of origin"... Note they didnt say contained to area of car!!!! WTF.....



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 12:14 PM
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Heres something else to think about....why didnt she open the door before turning the car on? Most folks do. lol

So we would have what 1. a non working belt lock 2. a door not opened 3. a car that cought fire so fast....that she had time to do nither of the other two.



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 12:25 PM
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This story has all the trappings of a side plot from a Tom Clancy novel. Circumstances are indeed bizarre and cars rarely erupt into flames upon any sort of impact especially the type of impact claimed in this "accident".

Certainly a story to keep an eye on when you consider this woman's connections and those of her husband.



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 05:11 PM
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If an autopsy report is made public, I'd be especially concerned if she died from something other than asphyxiation.

There's a big tell-all there, if the autopsy is made public or kept out of the reports.



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