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A look inside the mind of erad3 (most-likely Jared Loughner)

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posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 01:53 AM
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Anyone else really not give a toss about this dude?




posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 01:53 AM
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Arizona is another CIA psi-op script from Hollywood.

posting on forums don't change a goddamned thing in this world. it is 1984 every year. it just keeps repeating.
i might be experiencing a kind of "psychic short-circuit" but believe it when i say: everything happens as it was meant to happen and you still have free will.

lone nut shooters/killers like this are prime examples of the collective unconsiousness whispering into our ear... in the middle of the night.... during our dreams.

don't be naive people! this is why your daily prayers of peace & love are more urgent now. more urgent now than ever before. every day is exactly the same. another deja vu.

we know that putting down our weapons is a righteous thing to do. so our governments say "put down your weapons" because they are speaking the language of the collective unconsiousness.

think and pray for a better world and it will come. 2011. special message.



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 02:00 AM
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the short period of postings might be due to the fact that he saw him self above the rest and people here couldent communicate on same level as where he was , could be he just retreated back in to him self and keept on reading ,

id take it its traceble to see if the ip/s he where using was revisiting even thou no postings where made,



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 02:06 AM
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The idea that he was a subject of a MKULTRA type of brainwash or Manchurian Candidate did cross my mind, do i believe that? NO. But given the scenario and agendas that could be gained in all this i can see that happening. We simply have nothing to go on with that theory. But if anything he did more damage to the credibility of Conspiracy theorists than anything. The PTB could use this to an advantage, they want things like this to happen.Jan Brewer with crocadile tears pretending to be such a close freind is asanine and is a political ploy for example.

He FAILED in whatever he was trying to accomplish, and he murdered a 9 year old girl with utter disgrace, the worst thing you can do is kill a child. Did he understand that ? Now if we can get a clearer picture of his behavior before the brief period he posted here and made the youtube videos we would have a better understanding. The media will play on this of course demonize any topic he posted in im sure.

question everything trust nobody
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posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 02:37 AM
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Originally posted by gandhi
Thank you.

I made a joke in infinite currency thread...the one time i decided to troll on ATS.

Just asking, and sorry haven't had time to look, but what is connecting him to this account?


According to this video placed on Youtube, the same grammatical pattern is present on other sites.



And according to this video, Rep. Giffords was subscribed to her assassins Youtube channel.



ATS is about as responsible for the Arizona killings as Youtube is and Youtube is about as responsible for it as my neighbors pet dog. Not trying to make a joke here just trying to make a statement.

Jared Lee Loughner is clearly someone with some very serious problems.

To say that the first video is weird would be an understatement.



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 02:54 AM
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Reading these replys have me thinking alot of people trying ta cover their collective ass

Oh well ATS , this is what we say when shtf

When people in the mainstream go over the threads on this website , they will agree with any power that accuse sites like these of harbouring terrorists lol
A week of ATS reading will do alot to the sheeple out there (shakes head)
Its easy to be fired up when people say the average man and woman is dumb to the REAL truth ,
Just like Politics , its who wins the masses , and if the masses think ill of these types of websites ,They will be rooted out , just hope people find truth

www.independent.co.uk... the-little-red-book-that-swept-france-2174676.html



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 02:54 AM
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Wow, after reading his threads, if they really are his threads, I think show just how far off the deep end he was. The guy is clearly mentally disturbed and fell through the cracks, scuttled along through the school system like so many others. I say mentally disturbed not because of his thoughts and opinions, but because of the way they are presented....almost scrambled. There is no clear line of thought that comes across.

I have to take exception with the whole "left-liberal pothead" line the media is spouting now though. I don't want to turn it into one of "those" threads, but really, how many potheads go around shooting up people all psyched out? He smoked some weed in a school bathroom and that makes him a pot head? I think it is clearly implied by the spin machines that left leaning pot heads are prone to shooting people and are probably psychotic...



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 03:09 AM
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I would like to thank the staff for responding to the Questions being asked and for showing leadership in bringing forward the whole issue...I would also like all members to consider things deeply before responding too harshly about ERAD3. For one thing because there are a great many people whom do not agree with each other on issues and can be very erradic in their responses and their threads....It does not make them nutters.
There was something going on in ERAD3 but there are many people who have issues within themselves that would lead someone to think hey that person is nuts.
I am only guessing...and i will ask the staff....if he had a freinds list and if that will become a concern to the authorities....(not that i am his friend)...also if it does become an issue with the authorities will the members privacy be protected as much as possible...just like the authorities are asking twitter for all info and contacts of Julian Assange.
I think things need to be kept in perspective here...you have an Individual that went off the rails....And i would be pretty sure that no one on here encouraged his behaviour in that manner...because If you do not believe that what gets posted on sites like this gets monitored then more fool us.
I think to distance ourselves from this idividual and start to call him names is not the right thing...we should ban together..(Here on ATS can you imagine)..and just let it be known...yes he was a member and he had everyright to his viewpoints no matter how twisted they might seem.
The members here did not invoke his actions...and not only that the members probably delayed his inevitable actions.
I think many would agree ATS is a worldly mix of individuals who seek answers to questions that concern everybody and it shows all our many differences and opinions on the state of the world..(it's a mess).
We as memebers need to show ATS is a place to come together to share our thoughts but in the end an individuals actions are his own...and if TPTB are to blind to see this then it just confirms that the general concensus that the TPTB will do anything to stop freedom of thought.
Was what ERAD3 did correct in any way shape or form....of course not and i bet 99.9% of the membership will agree even tho there will be that .01% that doesn't but that does not even make those few out to be nutters..they just have a different opinion.
but once again to the staff at ATS....wishing you the best during this upheaval and this slur against ATS and it's members.....most of all...ERAD3 made his own bed (innocent till proven guilty) and has to sleep in it.



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posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 03:31 AM
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I can't seem to understand this persons thinking. No matter how much I try, i do find it fascinating.
What he did is horrid however.



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 03:47 AM
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i am confused about the final post in the closed LOUGHNER THREAD

www.abovetopsecret.com...

posted on 8-1-2011 @ 09:27 PM this post OP is believed to be the shooter in today's assassination attempt.

www.reddit.com...


it is dated ONE DAY BEFORE 1.9.11 and claiming to be about an event that had not happened yet.

i am very sleepy and may be misreading things.. and am not used to the EURO date format of day.month.year.
so apologies if this is irrelevant



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 03:57 AM
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Well I would like to say,that say when your neighbor go nuts...or your brother or sister...or the like of Jeffry Dalmer one of the first things you see on the News is people close to them saying things like "oh he was such a quiet fellow"...I mean really....people went well off the rails long before the introduction of the internet ,or youtube,or ATS....What is manifested in an indivuals mind is manifested in their mind alone.
From what i see of his thread...and his posts...and peoples replies...he was always going to be saying ..."no one understands me"
If your on ATS
then you cannot be trusted
Therefore ATS cannot be trusted.

It is a simple train of thought tat ERAD3 would use in all of his arguments

if the temp outside the shuttle is -454
then the tempi nside is -454
therefore people cannot be in it.

you could apply this kind of logic to anything...

If people vote democratic
And democrats are evil
then all democratic voters are evil.

It is inherent in his thinking and if you look on youtube undr his favorite books well you get the idea of the logic...and to him i am sure he thinks everything he did was absolutely logical...matter of fact it was all to logical.



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posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 03:59 AM
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While I am confident that TPTB at ATS are being very well informed by professional legal counsel on how to react to all of this, nevertheless, I am tossing in my 2 cents. Regarding issuing a formal statement to the media, I think a wait-and-see approach would be the best route to take for the time being. Jared's (alleged) membership here at ATS could turn out to be of minor significance in the minds of the MSM. There is already a very well defined picture of who Jared is from the videos and other information they already have. At this stage in the news cycle, the press has already created their story arc for how they are presenting him to the viewers/readers/listeners. Issuing something formal to the press when it may not be needed or warranted would be akin to ATS standing up on a platform and yelling "Hey everyone! Look over here at us! The murderous shooter from Arizona who may or may not be insane used to hang out here!"

Regarding whether or not the site should begin pointedly screening members for mental illness, I would very strongly recommend against doing so. As it is now, the site is not liable for the behavior of its members. In the course of civil law, implementing a psycological screening process for its members would almost certainly result in making the site expressly liable for negligence if anyone they failed to identify as mentally ill were to perpertrate a violent crime. The policies and rules for membership and posting that are in effect now are sufficient to protect the site in most circumstances. Actually it is the fact that the site has these clearly defined and posted policies and rules in effect that are its best defense in any scenario involving the actions of its members.

I work in an industry that is committed to protecting the privacy and intellectual freedom of anyone who uses our services. Therefore, I passionately believe that privacy and First Amendment rights are sacrosanct. I believe that people should never, ever, fear that what they read, the websites they visit, or a host of other infomational pursuits will be used in some way against them. I would defend to the death a person's right to privately seek out information or self expression in any way they choose so long as there is no illegal component to their activity (things like the creation or dissemination of child pornograpy or violent acts being the exceptions). I must admit that I gave a cursory reading to the user agreement that we must abide by as members (going to go reread it in a moment), but I sincerely hope that our privacy is somewhat protected here. Were "The Feds" to ever come to ATS demanding the names, profiles, account information and activity of every single member, I fervently hope the ATS admins and owners would require at the very least a court order for each and every request. In fact, I respect ATS and what it stands for so much that I would expect nothing less. I even hope they will require a court order from The Feds when they come calling for Jared's profile and account information if they haven't already requested it.

Do you understand why it is important that our privacy is somewhat protected here? There is that old argument that "if you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to fear," but that is a flawed argument. Imagine if The Feds came here demanding the accounts of anyone who ever posted anything on this site about NASA under the suspicion that you were an accomplice of Jared's simply because of his obsession with NASA. A lot of innocent people would find themselves in trouble with The Feds for no reason. Do you see what a slippery slope that would create?

Anyways, kudos to the mods and the Admins here at ATS for their work on a daily basis to make being an active member here such a great experience and for their handling so far of this situation. You are role models for us all. And kudos to all of the members who contribute here. I am so glad I can proudly say I am one of you!!



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 04:05 AM
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I am impressed with your reasoning in your interpretation of what he was tinking and it is the way to analyse what he was trying to get across.
He could not believe in anything because nothing really existed.
His thought patterns in his post and his threads are actually really logical to him...because no matter what some may write as a reply would have absolutly no relevance because the people he was replying too were not actually the authors of the said text.
Everything is only based on someone elses text as it was created by them and not by he.
I am not saying this in admiration i am saying this in trying to understand his thought process.
I mean in the end it could all come out that he just had a grudge with Gabrielle Gifford.
Or it could be even a bigger conspiracy and he is being used....look at his mindset...what better way to bring in more controls on the internet...and to bring on more gun control...than to have some nutter associated with conspiracy sites shooting at polliticians.
lets go like this
IF x=Evil
and y talks to x
then x and y = Evil

The logic is twisted...but it does work into what he says and how he replys to people throughout his post and threads.
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posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 04:07 AM
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Crazy people do Crazy things because they have Crazy thoughts, and trying to figure out what made them do it might just make you Crazy. when it comes down to it unless he tells us why we will never know for certain, but what is certain, Us normal people will be the victims in the end cause its the Actions of Jared Lee Loughner that turn this world into a fear soaked hell hole..... Thank you Uncle Fester



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 04:15 AM
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Just thinking about it, I hope this doesn't turn into another JFK incident, where someone decides to try and take out Jared Loughner. He needs his day in court, and it would be a shame that someone decided to try and be the next Jack Ruby, and takes him out.

I'm actually interested to see what his defence will be, whether he will plead insanity, Guilty, or go down the Not Guilty path.

Just remember people, it's easier to judge without all the information.

Would actually like to hear what SemperFortis thinks about all of this, coming from a Law Enforcement perspective.....



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 04:16 AM
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As I posted in another, now-closed thread, you can smell the crazy in Jared's writing if you are at all familiar with that particular scent. It bakes off the page like heatwaves from hot Tarmac. His thoughts hang heavy with the rank, acidic tang of a blown mind.

He almost sounds like a machine that wouldn't pass the Turing Test at times. Communicating with somebody like that is very much like talking to a non-human entity in some ways. There is a very good reason for this--he is quite lierally "not all there."

An amazing thing is that he was able to function somewhat in society (go to school, walk around, etc.) I wonder how long he was in his current shattered mindstate. Surely many people must have noticed. Tragically, I'm guessing not many cared.
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posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 04:22 AM
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Originally posted by Ventessa


This would be the video I wanted to share with you.

edit on 10-1-2011 by Ventessa because: Figured this embed thingy out!!!! Woot!


Bang on the money my friend, well done



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 04:27 AM
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I think the ATS site owners do a wonderful job with this site. It's intelligent and for the most part everyone is respectful of each other. There are bad people in this world and unfortunately, one of them was here. I'm sure this was not the only website he visited though, so I don't think it's fair if the media singles out ATS. My heart hurts for the victims and their families and friends and many prayers to them. It's just really, really a sad situation.



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 04:38 AM
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Its to late to figure him out now.

It is to late to prevent anything.

I guess all people want to do now is tell each other what kind of wacko he was. You know earn some stars and flags within their own community.

I just read on the news that politicians might arm them selves or get armed guards from now on. Like that's going to help if you get shot at point blank from behind.

Why don't they just put the politicians inside a bullet proof glass box like they do with the Pope. And put up body scanners at entrances at big malls?

If everyone is going to armed them selves in the future for cases like this. You are going to be looking at one hell of a shoot out if everyone draws a gun in panic.


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posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 04:49 AM
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He almost sounds like a machine that wouldn't pass the Turing Test at times. Communicating with somebody like that is very much like talking to a non-human entity in some ways.


Interesting statement, I have been also thinking the same thing. To me, demonic possession. Just watched the YouTube videos and they match his alleged posts here as "erad3", but also the same style of writing where it seems English is not his first/native language.




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