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The principle of Occam's Razor is often incorrectly summarized as "the simplest explanation is more likely the correct one". This summary is misleading, however, since the principle is actually focused on shifting the burden of proof in discussions. That is, the Razor is a principle that suggests we should tend towards simpler theories until we can trade some simplicity for increased explanatory power. - Wikipedia
The Greenbrier is a Mobil four star and AAA Five Diamond Award winning luxury resort located just outside the town of White Sulphur Springs in Greenbrier County, West Virginia, United States. - Wikipedia
In the late 1950s, the United States government approached The Greenbrier for assistance in creating a secret emergency relocation center to house Congress in the aftermath of a nuclear holocaust. The classified, underground facility was built at the same time as the West Virginia Wing, an above-ground addition to the hotel, from 1959 to 1962. For 30 years, The Greenbrier owners maintained an agreement with the federal government that, in the event of an international crisis, the entire resort property would be conveyed to government use, specifically as the emergency location for the legislative branch.
Although the bunker was kept stocked with supplies for 30 years, it was never actually used as an emergency location, even during the Cuban Missile Crisis. The bunker's existence was not acknowledged until The Washington Post revealed it in a 1992 story; immediately after the Post story, the government decommissioned the bunker. - Wikipedia
The project used a cut-and-cover style construction method for the creation of the bunker, where material, known as spoil, is removed from the surface and carried away from the site to create a space in which the bunker is constructed. In the case of the Project Greek Island Bunker, the spoil was used in the expansion of a 9-hole golf course and as fill material in a runway extension project at the local municipal airfield. This prevented detection of the project. The Government used the West Virginia Wing construction of the hotel as a cover-up for the shelter. The shelter was made to house over 1,000 people, including members of Congress. A huge vault door was placed in the shelter created so that one person could shut the massive door.
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Originally posted by gariac
reply to post by AQuestion
There has never been a nuclear explosion on Nellis AFB. Underground testing was done at the nearby Nevada Test Site and some offsite locations, but never at the base. There have been some radsafe experiments on the TTR and project 57 near Groom Lake, but these were not explosions.
Note that Nellis Area II is/was a nuclear bomb storage site. The bunkers and double fenceline are clearly visible on Google Earth. It is believes all the nukes from Area II are gone. OST (Office of Secure Transportation) has been transporting the material out of the area, which is what caused the reported "men in black" sightings in Bullhead City. and points south of Vegas.
Nellis construction goes out for bid. Hard to keep construction secret when you hire the private sector. People get paid, bills get audited, blah blah blah. I seriously doubt there is much of anything underground at Nellis. Now I have some building plans for Creech that have a basement here and there, so yeah, a bit of underground sure, but not anything of appreciable size. The bids go out on the internet, so the construction isn't secret.
Regarding Groom Lake, I doubt much there is underground. No need to do it, so it's hard to justify.
Originally posted by CrastneyJPR
classic misdirection then - you hide something in the last place that it'll be looked for.
There's so much empty space above ground - why would they dig underground? precisely because they can, and it's the best way of keeping something very secret. We already know that the place is very secure from anyone attempting to get in above ground, but with satelites these days, you'd see too much if it was all above ground, so it makes sense that there's a lot below ground. You might look at the surface buildings, and see a few 100sqft of stuff, without realising that there's an entrance to several thousand sqft of space, on several layers deep underneath.
Originally posted by davjan4
"Satellites don't hover"
Originally posted by gariac
... Anything hover over Groom Lake would be turned into Swiss cheese.