CIA Asset Susan Lindauer Blows Whistle On 9/11, Iraq + BBC Interview

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posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 01:27 PM
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Here's another source taking on the markovian deal.... the comments section is pretty interesting, and in the quest for the truth, someone does mention that it could be a different Susan, so that possibility exists, but the discussion is well worth the read, even someone claiming to be an prior Navy guy saying he recognized some patterns within the random text that was posted over Usenet back in the 90's...


Markovian Parallax Denigrate

On August 5, 1996, Usenet groups were spammed by messages of seemingly random word strings, "sometimes numbering in the thousands in a single posting," under the subject line "Markovian Parallax Denigrate":

jitterbugging McKinley Abe break Newtonian inferring
caw update Cohen air collaborate rue
sportswriting rococo invocate tousle shadflower
Debby Stirling pathogenesis escritoire adventitious novo
ITT most chairperson Dwight Hertzog different
pinpoint dunk McKinley pendant firelight Uranus
episodic medicine ditty craggy flogging variac
brotherhood Webb impromptu file countenance inheritance
cohesion refrigerate morphine napkin inland Janeiro
nameable yearbook hark....


Anything there? I don't know, but I still find it remarkable that having been in DC circles for so long, and being someone who claimed to have Lockerbie details from a CIA source, to be suddenly labelled a nutjob, and character assassinated in the media, and without trial, is shuttled away to a mental facility, when she attempted to prevent the Iraq war?

To me that sounds very shady, and something that needs digging into, especially by the folks here..




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posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 01:56 PM
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It's so hard to get the right help these days. It would look more credible if they even looked at some of this thread.



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 02:31 PM
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Originally posted by backinblack
You'd expect some MSM to pick up such a story, even if it was RT..


If this conspiracy is THAT global, you'd surely not be surprised by ANY LACK OF MEDIA COVERAGE.

Did you listen to the entire interview? It's quite a revelation.

FREE PLANET



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 03:31 PM
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I have a question: if 9/11 was a inside job, would our government actually keep records of it? The government seems to keep records of everything it does but would they actually keep incriminating records such as ones that would prove that 9/11 was an inside job? Also why do they use a lot of permanent maker on their files?
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posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 04:24 PM
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truthandshadows.wordpress.com...

 

TITLE OF STORY: "FBI told Clinton prosecutor about details of 9/11 ‘attack’ weeks in advance"


But when it comes to 9/11, Schippers has some things to say that shake the foundations of the official story.

Just two days after 9/11, Schippers went public with the explosive statement that he had been told by FBI agents months before 9/11 that there would be a massive terrorist attack targeting the financial arteries of lower Manhattan. The revelation came in an interview he did on WRRK in Pittsburgh.[...]




This info was out there but intentionally muddied and obscured... by some body or some one in the political/monied elite/ or media areas of the power pyramid...
i just thought this may help out in the thread about Susan
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of further importance in the linked page... there is this paragraph that is relevent:


Phoenix FBI agent and counter-terrorism specialist Ken Williams had been investigating suspicious “Middle Eastern” individuals who were enrolled in flight schools across the U.S. He started working on this in 2000, and in July 2001 he sent a memo to the counter-terrorism division headquarters saying that Osama bin Laden’s followers may be taking flight lessons for terrorist purposes. He recommended a national program to track suspicious flight students, but he was ignored.



the agent Ken Williams was 6 years late in reading my 'tip letter' to the Phoenix office of the FBI, mailed in April/May 1995...all about the radical Arabs attending flight schools....
the tip letter contained the name of my brother-in-law, himself an FBI Agent, so they could
verify that the tip did not come from a wacko but a reliable source....
but NO, there was an intentional delay---> until the proper time --> to have Ken Williams send the 'Phoenix electronic communication' to all FBI and counter terrorism units at the last minute.

 





but make sure you click this link found at the bottom of the posted article, which looks like this:



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posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 05:31 PM
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Originally posted by Rockdisjoint
I have a question: if 9/11 was a inside job, would our government actually keep records of it? The government seems to keep records of everything it does but would they actually keep incriminating records such as ones that would prove that 9/11 was an inside job? Also why do they use a lot of permanent maker on their files?
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Ego is a funny thing,
Whatever, remember the Nixon tapes... the POTUS. The Baghdad video...military education perhaps?



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 08:01 PM
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Sorry, I'm afraid I'm not old enough to remember any of that, but I will look them up. Thanks.



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 10:24 PM
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I just finished listening to the interview with Kevin Barret and Susan Lindauer. To me everything she is saying rings perfectly true. It backs up what comes from other sources regarding Saddam's attitude to terrorism and radical Islam and even what John Perkins was talking about in Confessions of an Economic Hit Man, where he refers to the sort of comprehensive "sweetheart deals" signed between the United States and countries that it has a hold over, to build infrastructure.

When Saddam offered to buy ten million American automobiles a year for ten or even twenty years as a small part of the price he would be willing to pay for peace, that is right out of the "economic hit man" playbook and lends credence to Lindauer's story about who she was and who she was working for and what exactly she was doing.

Basically, I believe everything she says, because there are echoes of everything she has said from other sources.
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posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 08:20 AM
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I just wanted to add that if there is ever an "Erin Bockovitch" style movie done about 9/11, Susan Lindauer's story would be an almost unbeatable candidate for retelling in film.

She was at the heart of the action at a critical period in the lead up to the second Gulf War, working as a back channel CIA asset and then was a major victim of the Patriot Act when she tried to inform American legislators of the desperate, really abject, efforts of the Saddam administration in Iraq to obtain peace with the United States at virtually any cost, no matter how extravagant.



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 08:38 AM
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Hello, I am new to this forum and I found this post fascinating, please forgive me for sounding like a "Vulcan", but what can possibly make any one of us think that human beings, let alone politicians, are in any way logical. Thank you for reinforcing my hope for the future. Seriously. you have commenced a reevaluation within myself and I am grateful. By the way I was there that day and I am obligated to take what I know to my grave which is not too far off.
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posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 09:13 AM
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A couple of other thoughts on the "economic hitman" angle. It is clear that Lindauer's efforts as a CIA backchannel asset were paying off when viewed as an example of the economic hitman paradigm. Extortion is how that paradigm operates to secure crazy profitable international business deals for American consulting firms and their contruction firm networks, when it is impossible to buy or bribe the foreign leaders in question, as was the case with Saddam.

How do you bribe the man who controls a fifth of the world's oil? You can't. You have to make him the subject of extortion. As General Smedley Butler put it, "War is a racket." He was quite open in admitting that his job in the US military was to be a muscle man for the banks and big industrial concerns.

So fine. Lindauer, the Iraqi sympathizer, who just wants peace, is operating according to the rules, within the established extortion racket that the US military industrial complex has set up to deal with its wealthy foreign "customers". But something is not going according to plan. Despite getting the Iraqis to cave in and practically offer the Americans the keys to the Iraqi national treasury, the follow up implementation of the backchannel "agreements" is not going forward. Instead, Lindauer is shocked to see America going ahead with plans to invade Iraq(!?!?!), even though they have complied with all demands, even though they have bent over to take their commercial medicine.

Why this departure from the normal extortionate procedure?

It doesn't fulfill Israeli requirements in the situation.

Israel's interests are now a factor in the equation. It is no longer enough for the extortion and bribery equation to work out massively to America's economic benefit. Thanks to the cabal of dual Israeli/American citizens and Israeli sympathizers assembled around the seat of power in Washington, the new equation must finally factor down to both massive profits for the extortionists (the American military industrial complex) and the satisfaction of Israeli political expectations, which in this case were the destruction of Iraq, America's second most important ally in the region and the inauguration of a permanent American military presence in the region, to safeguard Israel.

The education of Susan Lindauer and a new twist on the story John Perkins told in Confessions of an Economic Hitman.
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posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 02:19 PM
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I find it stange, that if she was guilty of what she was charged with, why were all the charges against her dropped?

For those interested, do a little searching on Susan Lindauer. One might be surprised at what information is available.

Some Intell Agency, or more, knew of what was going to take place. WHO would have benifited the most, for such an Event to take place. Even more, Who benefited from prior knowledge of what was going to happen.

And was it just coincedence that the Israelis that were filming, and celebrating the WTC attack were released, and when thet returned to Israel, during a TV interview, they stated they were only there to document the Event?
Were they psychic, or did they get the information from a source that knew what, and when the Event was to happen?

Here is a link to the story of all the charges against her being dropped. www.scoop.co.nz...



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 04:24 PM
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Originally posted by St Udio


truthandshadows.wordpress.com...

 

TITLE OF STORY: "FBI told Clinton prosecutor about details of 9/11 ‘attack’ weeks in advance"


But when it comes to 9/11, Schippers has some things to say that shake the foundations of the official story.

Just two days after 9/11, Schippers went public with the explosive statement that he had been told by FBI agents months before 9/11 that there would be a massive terrorist attack targeting the financial arteries of lower Manhattan. The revelation came in an interview he did on WRRK in Pittsburgh.[...]




This info was out there but intentionally muddied and obscured... by some body or some one in the political/monied elite/ or media areas of the power pyramid...
i just thought this may help out in the thread about Susan
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

of further importance in the linked page... there is this paragraph that is relevent:


Phoenix FBI agent and counter-terrorism specialist Ken Williams had been investigating suspicious “Middle Eastern” individuals who were enrolled in flight schools across the U.S. He started working on this in 2000, and in July 2001 he sent a memo to the counter-terrorism division headquarters saying that Osama bin Laden’s followers may be taking flight lessons for terrorist purposes. He recommended a national program to track suspicious flight students, but he was ignored.



the agent Ken Williams was 6 years late in reading my 'tip letter' to the Phoenix office of the FBI, mailed in April/May 1995...all about the radical Arabs attending flight schools....
the tip letter contained the name of my brother-in-law, himself an FBI Agent, so they could
verify that the tip did not come from a wacko but a reliable source....
but NO, there was an intentional delay---> until the proper time --> to have Ken Williams send the 'Phoenix electronic communication' to all FBI and counter terrorism units at the last minute.

 





but make sure you click this link found at the bottom of the posted article, which looks like this:



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•Dick Morris: Bill Clinton Personally Orchestrated the 1993 Waco, Texas Tragedy
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That's right,
Schippers was acting for FBI man Robert Wright at or near the time over operation, "Vulgar betrayal"

www.historycommons.org...

It is interesting that both Schipper, and Lindauer included other than 'planes in their account. In Schippers account a "dirty bomb" would also be used originally, but that plan was watered down to just 'planes. In Lindauer's account, it was to be a thermonuclear bomb/device. more reading on Schipper here,

www.historycommons.org...

It is interesting also, that this kind of attack, or knowledge of, goes back to 1995 and perhaps earlier. I even makes me think of movies of the time, "Die hard" and "Die hard with a vengeance" the second one especially if anyone has seen it.



posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 11:37 PM
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Congratulations, ATSers!!!

Just thought I would let you all know that I followed a link to this thread from one of my favorite sites to get interesting links, Rense.com



posted on Jan, 26 2011 @ 01:50 PM
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Could you expand on this post please?

I'm sure those posting here would like to hear your story.

Thanks.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 06:21 PM
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Susan has just done two interviews with The Intel Hub and touched on some topics that she didnt cover with Kevin. Both great interviews

theintelhub.com...

theintelhub.com...



posted on Feb, 5 2011 @ 05:46 AM
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I've listened to one of the interviews on the intelhub website and based on that interview and admitting that I haven't actually read her book, I have to say I am beginning to have doubts about her. I don't think that she is a malicious figure but I don't believe that she fully understands her own story.

It is interesting to here her tell it though. If she is a typical "asset" of an intelligence service, then it is obvious that the sort of people who devise intelligence gambits operate on an intellectual level well above hers. She's a specialist with an exaggerated estimation of her own importance in the larger scheme of things and would make a perfect dupe or tool. Her explanation of the meaning and importance of what she was doing is very naive.

I would like to read her book because she is spilling the beans, although it is clear that she doesn't know if they are lima or fava. That doesn't really matter though. Other people can figure that out.

At one point she says that one of her "handlers" tells her to give a message to the Iraqis that they should investigate a possible hijacking scenario involving middle eastern terrorists and relay information about this to the Americans, and to make it clear to the Iraqis that if that attack goes ahead, the US intends to go to war with Iraq.

Her story of this message is just classic. Her handler gives her the message in the most stark, uncompromising terms and wants the message delivered in those terms. Lindauer, the asset starts thinking for herself and decides to be polite when she gives the message.


Of course she's only an asset, not a diplomat. She wouldn't have received that wonderful bit of hazing they give you on the first day of class in my fantasy diplomat school. "Write 'I will follow orders to the letter' one thousand times on the blackboard."

Consequently communication has not occurred.

At their next meeting she tells her handler what she has done and he goes ballistic, . . . filthy, profanely, ballistic.

In her online radio interview, Lindauer starts talking about that message as some kind of attempt to establish an overt motive for the war against Iraq. That line of course, of Iraqi connections to terrorists, was never bought seriously by anyone and the Bush administration moved on to WMDs as their justification for war.

It seems much more likely that this message was an attempt to sabotage the 9/11 attack.

I haven't read her book but as I said, I don't think she understands her own story. I think that her handler's message to the Iraqis and the manner in which he directed it to be given indicates that he was trying to get them to realize that Lindauer was conveying a message within a message, i.e., A terrorist attack against us is immanent. We can't stop it on our side. Our hands are tied. Stop it if you can.

I'm not sure but this handler may have been the same one who told her that there was surveillance on vans seen doing business at the WTC between 3 and 5 in the morning for a couple of weeks prior to 9/11.

I think Lindauer is very lucky to be alive. Her connections, related to Brent Scowcroft, if I am not mistaken, probably saved her.



posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 01:07 PM
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posted on Nov, 4 2011 @ 08:47 AM
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Originally posted by hooper

Originally posted by reeferman
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you obviously did not read or listen to one thing about this story...

troll much?



But Malvina Lacey, Lindauer's next-door neighbor, said, “She lives in a fantasy world.”


Yep, good source.



And Malvina Lacey is an authority on the subject how? None of the whistleblowers turned out not to be who they claimed they were. Of course somebody in uniform can give credentials.



posted on Nov, 5 2011 @ 08:12 PM
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So why were the charges agains her dropped and why was she charged and by whom exactly?





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