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Carolyn McCarthy readies gun control bill

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posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 09:27 AM
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Alright, this was not the article I read, but it gets into the criminal history of the wacko.

______beforeitsnews/story/347/732/Jared_Lee_Loughner,_D.O.B._09_1988_Criminal_Record,_Bizarre_UTube_Video_and_More.html

They are putting forth that this guy has made death threats before.

Hmmmm, wonder if our liberal crime and punishment judicial system is partly responsible?

I guess it is better to err on the side of letting a wacko get a gun legally huh?

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Here is another article that states that he had numerous run ins with the police-www.kgun9.com...


"From February to September 2010, Loughner had five contacts with PCC police for classroom and library disruptions at Northwest and West campuses," the statement read. "On September 29, 2010, college police discovered on YouTube a Loughner-filmed video made at Northwest Campus. In the video, he claims that the College is illegal according to the U.S. Constitution, and makes other claims."

The college said it told Loughner that if he wanted to come back to school, he must "must resolve his Code of Conduct violations and obtain a mental health clearance indicating, in the opinion of a mental health professional, his presence at the College does not present a danger to himself or others."


Hmmmm, I am wondering if this Sheriff knew about this guy beforehand. Is this why he is attempting to blame others?
edit on 10-1-2011 by saltheart foamfollower because: (no reason given)




posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 09:37 AM
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There are MANY Reasons why we Americans Need to Bear Arms . It is for our Own Personal Survival that we do so in these Trying Times . If that Right were Ever to be Challenged BTPTB , then we would All become Nothing More than Defenseless Sheep readied for the Slaughter . The Propagandists will Never Relent in Attacking what they themselves Fear the most , a Populace that has the Will to Resist Opression, and a Calm Reserve of Purpose . Please Remember that the Next time THEY try to take your Freedoms away because of Events that happen which can be used to Sway your Resolve .



LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC !


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posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 09:43 AM
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Instead of more gun control, we need to make it easier to carry firearms and weapons.

How many shots do you think that guy would have got off if every person wearing pants had a gun strapped to their hip – one, two?

He would have been put down very quickly.

What about the Columbine shootings? How many children would they have been able to kill if every teacher and 18 year old’s had gun’s strapped to their hip?

People will not be permitted to go on a full rampage if they are put down right when they begin.

Just like the old west – everyone had guns, and if you crossed someone you had to determine if it was worth your life or not.

The solution isn’t gun control – it’s being more liberal with gun regulation.

I personally think that everyone, 18 and up, should have the legal right to carry a gun on their hip at all times, in public, stores or any other location.

I promise crime would drop so drastically it would baffle the minds of people.

The people that want to kill other people will find a way to get the weapons and ammo – be it on the black market or legally.

If you restrict those who are sane and level headed from attaining weapons you are empowering those that will get them no matter the cost and use them for malevolent intentions.



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 09:45 AM
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This deranged Congress Critter from L.I. NY tries to get this legislation passed since her own tragedy happened. What's scary is that this time this treasonous representative might get some traction on this un-Constitutional bill!
Zindo



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 09:50 AM
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This is where the rubber meets the road. People are not going to go for gun control in any way, shape or form.


In October, a record low 44% of Americans said gun laws should be stricter, according to the Gallup Poll. That was down from 78% in 1990.


Shows how many people have woken up!

content.usatoday.com...



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 09:51 AM
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With the exception of the glorious "gun-free zones" in much of the country it is easy enough to get the training and permit if applicable to carry.

With the exception of especially totalitarian states the problem is that more people arent willing to take an active role in their own security.

Take NH as an example. There are training opportunities abound. Several of the most well known shooting schools in the country are here. And all one needs for a concealed carry permit is $10 and a clean record. Everyone should be proficient and carrying. Yet everyday I meet somebody who is wholly ignorant of the law, the skill and the responsibility.

I guess they just assume somebody else will do it. Unfortunately that somebody is usually a cop and no cop is going to prevent any crime or protect your person. It's not their job and even if it was unless you hire one to stand guard 24/7 they can only react after the fact.

I dont think people understand their own mortality or their rights and responsibilities. Or perhaps they just dont care or walk around with the "it'll never happen to me" mentality of a careless adolescent.



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 09:53 AM
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Just as long as I can still buy a .223-caliber, gas-operated, clip-fed assault rifle; .35-caliber, clip-fed handgun and a street-sweeper shotgun for the end of days I'll be happy...... Property isn't what I'm concerned with, it's bodily harm by toxic-wasteland refugees.



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 09:59 AM
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Originally posted by MentorsRiddle
Instead of more gun control, we need to make it easier to carry firearms and weapons.

How many shots do you think that guy would have got off if every person wearing pants had a gun strapped to their hip – one, two?

He would have been put down very quickly.

What about the Columbine shootings? How many children would they have been able to kill if every teacher and 18 year old’s had gun’s strapped to their hip?

People will not be permitted to go on a full rampage if they are put down right when they begin.

Just like the old west – everyone had guns, and if you crossed someone you had to determine if it was worth your life or not.

The solution isn’t gun control – it’s being more liberal with gun regulation.

I personally think that everyone, 18 and up, should have the legal right to carry a gun on their hip at all times, in public, stores or any other location.

I promise crime would drop so drastically it would baffle the minds of people.

The people that want to kill other people will find a way to get the weapons and ammo – be it on the black market or legally.

If you restrict those who are sane and level headed from attaining weapons you are empowering those that will get them no matter the cost and use them for malevolent intentions.



The sad part is that the idiots on the hill don't understand that. They live in their nice little secure world, where they are chauffeured to their job and back without having to deal with the public. Other than election time, you don't see most of them mingling with the public, so when something like this happens, they scream TAKE THE GUNS FROM EVERYBODY!. Punish the honest law abiding citizen to make sure you catch that million to one psycho that goes on a rampage.



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 10:03 AM
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When I met my husband about 12 years ago, I thought he was a little unusual because he was so distrustful of the government and was a 2nd amendment type of guy. I was a little bit brainwashed so I asked him, what's wrong with gun control? Wouldn't the world be safer if there was more control on guns? Even though I was well aware of corruption, I was brainwashed to believe that tyranny could never come to America.

He very patiently explained the reasons that guns are good but emphasized that if the citizens did not have unfettered access to firearms, the government will rapidly fall into tyranny. It was a real "duh, of course ..." moment for me. A lot of people are understanding that now, finally.



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 10:06 AM
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Originally posted by vor78

Originally posted by Mr Headshot
Had it prefabbed eh?

Figures


There are numerous discussions ongoing about this, but to answer your question, yes, she did. McCarthy introduces gun ban bills into Congress almost every year, so no doubt, she had one ready to go.


Wow. She must have really been ecstatic when she heard about this then! She cant make this sort of hay out of regular citizens getting killed. But now we have a political killing with a dead child and a fed judge. What a shot of jucie for this selfrightious bag of crap.



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 10:08 AM
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Somebody told me that I always have to bow
If that was true I would have fallen apart by now
The more you think, the less you act their ways
So can you hear this, the fake sound of progress

Your avatar and this situation reminded me of those lyrics, lol
edit on 10-1-2011 by igigi because: The Fake Sound Of Progress much more appropriate!



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 10:08 AM
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Originally posted by igigi
reply to post by GirlGenius
 


Property isn't what I'm concerned with, it's bodily harm by toxic-wasteland refugees.


Yes, the roving bands are bound to spring up. That's what I love about living so far into the country. Everyone around me is fairly self-sufficient and very well-armed. The nearest big city is 100 miles but at some point we are going to have to stop leaving the keys in the vehicles!



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 10:28 AM
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For people who are supposed to protect the Constitution, these idiots in Congress should try reading the damn thing since they obviously have no clue what it contains.


Boy is that ever the truth!

Most of the laws Congress passes are completely unConstitutional! This is thanks to FDR blackmailing the Supreme Court into upholding the USDA's position in Wickard v. Filburn. The Supreme Court "re-interpreted the phrase "Interstate Commerce" in the Constitution. Under this "new interpertation" it gives Congress maximum commerce power and now the government is free to regulate nearly everything.

Here read for youself what they are actually ALLOWED to do!

Section 8 - Powers of Congress

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States; [so Why aren't they doing what they are SUPPOSED to do and wiping out the FED????]

To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

Section 9 - Limits on Congress....


Amendment 10 - Powers of the States and People. Ratified 12/15/1791.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
www.usconstitution.net...



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 10:33 AM
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Yup.. the strength of the 9th and 10th amendments have been systematically stolen/given-up by the States since the inception of this country. Commerce Clause; gtfo. The States need to reassert their rights and defend them against Federal compromise (through Medicare/Medicaid fiscal shackles and pure Federal intimidation.)



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 11:02 AM
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Well Madam , your Husband is a Very Wise Man . Life is All about Self Responseability . The minute you Cede it to Someone Else , you become Lost .



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 11:23 AM
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Haha! You don't know how wise he really is ... Zanti Misfits was one of his faves



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 11:31 AM
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Well Madam , your Husband is a Very Wise Man . Life is All about Self Responseability . The minute you Cede it to Someone Else , you become Lost .



I second that - great post my friend!

Self Responsibility is paramount.



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 12:03 PM
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After doing some more research on here apparently her husband was killed by a gun. The legislation she is proposing is limimted to just the hicap magazine, which I dont agree with but at least shes not trying to ban all guns.

Her heart is the right place based on here personal histry, but I think its that history that is causing some problems for her.



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 12:14 PM
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I haven't seen her current proposal, but in the past, she has authored sweeping attempted bans of a large range of semi-automatic weapons. HR 1022 is one that immediately comes to mind.

Just to add, indeed, it appears that it is just a high cap magazine ban this time around. I don't think it will pass, and anyone who knows her legislative history on the issue will likely view it as an attempt to capitalize on a tragedy in order to push her agenda.
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posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 12:23 PM
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Funny..I own the same 31 rd clip...and I do not hunt people. I use it for the range, so I do not have to reload as often. These people are idiots! Not everyone out there is a damn monster!




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